Racer_X wrote:Great review and nice bikes, I was looking at the Phantom. It is basically the same thing except it has a Direct Drive type motor vs Geared motor like yours.
Both type of motors are good.
I also might add that you should charge your batteries after every ride even if it is only 1 mile. It is good for the battery and it will definitely last longer.
This is not like the batteries of old that you had to deplete completely before charging because of battery memory issues.
Good luck and keep us informed.
daniele10 wrote:Good to see the Genesis and Storm get the review it deserves. I have been a dealer for Prodeco since February. The Genesis sold out at the factory in late spring, 1000 sold from Sept 2010 to about April. I've sold 12 bikes including 2 Phantom X's. I got my first return last week. A buyer in California bought two custom Storms with the upgraded 250 Watt motor and Genesis handlebars. That allows a more upright riding stance than the Storm. The bike was just to large for his wife so I took it back and shipped them a Mariner to Thousand Oaks, Ca. The box was delivered upside down by Fedex but the bike was perfect. It traveled 6000 miles from Florida and back. I can't get any more custom Storms because the Genesis is back in production. That bike has the extended range battery. I also have a Storm with the 250 Watt motor and standard battery.
The battery system on the Phantom is being redesigned to be more elegant and give the bike better balance. The factory built about 70 bikes with an "off the shelf battery case" that they thought looked awkward.
A custom battery case prototype costs $10,000 and takes time to test and manufacture. They told me last week that this redesign of the batteries could hold up production for" a few more weeks."
I'm told that they plan on showing the new model for the bike show in Vegas in September and that it will be in stock.
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nyctimd wrote:I heard it is a supply issue, but I think the larger issue is whether Prodeco will produce any more "2011" models at the existing price points because they are now rolling out the "2012" models at higher prices. I am led to believe that there is not enough 2011 Phantom X's in the pipeline for fill all of the current orders (perhaps mine too), - so what happens to the customers who contracted to buy over the past several months and are patiently waiting? I don't know, and I have not been able to get any answers. The new "2012" Prodeco bikes cost more, but they are essentially the same bike as was produced in 2011. I hope production is not being held back to "bait and switch" customers into paying more, or face not getting their orders filled.
Shelley wrote:Hello Everyone,
I have been reading all the wonderful reviews on ebikes here. We decided to get the Prodeco ebikes; Genesis and the Storm. These are our 1st ebikes and we have had them 2 weeks now, received them July 26, 2011. (I couldn't find a review on these models, only on the Phantom.)
Last week I made it my personal goal not to drive my car for one week. Well, with my Genesis it was easy to do that. I put 60 miles on the Genesis in one week. This is huge for me, I am a female, age 53, <120 lbs. with a hip problem! I wanted other women to know that they could do this too.
We live in Albuquerque, NM USA and we have mountains. So we upped the battery to 24V 18Ah LiFePO 4.The 24V doesn't drain the battery very quickly at all, but the 18Ah gives us the juice to go the distance. According to the bike computer I rode 60 miles on one charge and there was still power left. My riding style is always pedaling even with the throttle on. The exception to this is crossing busy streets where I use the throttle to get me going and then start to pedal after the throttle gets me started. The battery indicator light still showed it on the middle green, but I think it was near the end of power. The only reason I charged it (rather than letting it run out of power and figure the total range) was we were going to ride our bikes to dinner and we thought I would run out of power on the way home, which is all up hill. The battery took 8 hours to charge, so it must have been really low. My husband thinks I might have been able to get another 10 miles out of the battery! Gosh, that would make the range 70 miles on one charge, holy smokes!
Also, our batteries lock in place to the controller. I think this is a new feature. We find this reassuring that someone just can't take your battery off without taking the bike apart. There is a rear bike light on the battery that you can turn on with a push of a button, nice.
Although I put a pannier over the battery, it says it is not a rack. I think Prodeco needs to figure out a way to make it so you can use panniers. I am only using the panniers to hold light weight stuff. I got a quick release basket for the front to use when I go grocery shopping.
Overall the bike feels in balance with the battery in the back and the motor on the front wheel.
The center stand works great but I don't like the fact that it raises the front tire off the ground. When you go to lock up your bike the handlebars whack you in the head because the front tire wants to turn all around!
Now on to locking these bikes up. You will need 2 locks, one U shaped and a cable. We lock the rear wheels to the U lock and run the cable through the front tires and back to the U lock. (You need to make sure you lock your front tire so no one can steal your motor.)
We have both gotten flat tires. ABQ is in the desert and we have thorns! Both of our bikes had 2 thorn protection liners inserted but we still got flats. Mike (my husband) is looking into replacing the stock tires with a more thorn resistant type.
These bikes are sold in ABQ at Bikes+ on Holly St. and NE Cyclery on Menaul Blvd. The total cost with the motor and battery upgrades was $1485.00. We feel this was a very good price for a quality ebike.
Well, that is all I can think of to report so far. If you have any questions I will try to answer to the best of my ability.
While I am not into going fast, I thought some of you might want to know the speed I was able to achieve while going up a long incline. The bike computer said that I had an 183 foot gain in elevation. This was about a mile long stretch going towards the Sandia Mountains. My speed with full throttle plus pedaling was 13.6 mph. I really don't think this is too bad. We have the 250 watt motor on the front wheel. Now going down I was cruising at 25.7 mph, holy schmolly!
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