anthony_prodeco wrote:Excuse me sir but you are incorrect. Prodeco does not sell on here period. If dealers post our products, we cannot control this and yes my writing style might be that of Josh Levy's simply because we know how to write without foul and non-constructive language. But this is because we are professionals and have no need to bash people or companies for no reason. I am glad this is a DIY community and I can express that I encourage you to continue to do it yourself. You’re always going to have your opinion of what you think we or others have done. If our product was as bad as you make it out to be, 1000 plus dealers and a few mass merchants along with Mens Fitness Mag would not stand behind our product as it would not benefit them in carrying a product of such poor quality. Let’s not mention just how expensive this item is for them to stock in there stores and for us to build. Why would any dealer want that kind of liability? Of course you will probably say this message is a marketing scheme to inform people where they can purchase our bikes. No Sir it is simply a statement answering your negative post. There is no sense in our company responding to you or Oatnets comments any further. This has been taken to a foolish level and it’s simply not productive in any part. As far as our dealers our concerned, please try not to advertise our products in this or anywhere within endless-sphere. If you are a customer and have positive or negative feedback for our company we would love to hear it and welcome postings on either our Facebook or better your personal wall that way to stop those who accuse us of falsely posting messages with fake names. I do not recommend anyone post about our products here in the near future. If anyone should need assistance or would like to discuss our product line or any of my postings here on endless sphere, I am available and can be reached at any time.
Thank you every one
Have a great day
Prodeco Dealer Sales
rebelpilot wrote:I think all references to Prodeco bikes should be purged from the forum, and ban any "members" whose posts have exclusively concerned this product. This garbage just detracts from the quality content that makes this such a great forum, and probably adds to the typical confusion of noobs.
Well understood and appreciated. I have sent a message to the site administration to investigate on the accused phony names and postings. Our legal department has also been informed and we are willing to prosecute all involved in such activities. Any slander and fraud against Prodeco will be taken seriously. If further assistance is needed I can be contacted directly.
We cannot control other people or dealers actions but if one of our dealers is making phony names posting phony comments we will ban that dealer from purchasing our products.
Prodeco has no further interest in posting in this forum.
Have a good day
Prodeco Dealer Sales
amberwolf wrote:None of the people share IP addresses, or from the little research I had time to do appear to be posting from the same locations/etc. Some do share ISPs, but that is to be expected when major ISPs are used; the IP ranges for them are still not the same.
Joseph C. wrote:Threatening people with legal action because you have abused paragraphs isn't the best way to enamour yourself with members of this site. And for your information it is libel not slander. Three years of studying law indicate to me that you have absolutely no grounds.
anthony_prodeco wrote:Joseph C. wrote:Threatening people with legal action because you have abused paragraphs isn't the best way to enamour yourself with members of this site. And for your information it is libel not slander. Three years of studying law indicate to me that you have absolutely no grounds.
"3. Posts, topics, reply, or profiles which go beyond simple expression of opinion and edge toward unfounded accusations will be removed."
Please read the rules and regulations of Endless-sphere, also your use of foul language is not needed here at any time and should never be tolerated by any user of this forum. We are all adults and deserve respect. You are in direct violation as it is clearly stated in the rules quoted number three of what can be posted
What can not be posted here?
1. Links or information leading in a topic, post, reply, or your very own profile that contain pornographic material, get rich quick scams, religious debates, link farms, advertisement for sexual enhancement drugs, or anything else the community or myself considers to have nothing to do with this forum. Those accounts will be removed from this forum with haste.
2. Please keep all advertisements for items which are relevant to these forums in the Online Market section viewforum.php?f=23
3. Posts, topics, reply, or profiles which go beyond simple expression of opinion and edge toward unfounded accusations will be removed. Repeated problems with a user will
result in account termination. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but don't take it too far. [/b][/b][/b]4. When all else fails, just use common sense. We are all adults here, so let's keep the community focused on why everyone comes here. Everyone wants to exchange ideas and information with other people that have the same interest. The last thing we want to do is sort through tons of spam topics or post that have nothing to do with anything here.
5. NO FORUM BOTS ALLOWED!![/b]
anthony_prodeco wrote:"3. Posts, topics, reply, or profiles which go beyond simple expression of opinion and edge toward unfounded accusations will be removed."
If your going to defend someone, please take the time to read the posting properly.
neptronix wrote:I talked to Anthony via PM for a bit and he actually seems to be a good guy. I still think we may have jumped the gun on the guerilla marketing conclusion here. Looking at the bikes for sale further ( particularly the phantom X ), these are actually a fairly good value in eBikes, coming easily within the cost of buying an ampedbikes kit, battery, and frame yourself, so i understand why there would be a lot of newbies ( low post count ) would be interested in it.
On this forum, any mention of marketing/sales speak from a vendor who is not an active part of the community usually causes us ( myself included ) to setup the firing range on a vendor, vendor ends up putting foot in mouth ( obviously didn't know what kind of crowd he was dealing with before posting ), then we end up with another thread that is a black mark on the vendor and makes us look nutty to the outside world as well, possibly pushing away intelligent people who would ordinarily come here to contribute but who may shy away due to a bad first impression.
Newb, you mentioned that this is the first hit on google for prodeco... that's really, really bad.
I think the best case of action here is for a truce... Anthony cools the jets on the legal talk & we dump the nasty parts of thread into the cesspool.
Just an idea.. thoughts?
neptronix wrote:I agree that a legal threat is really nasty and pretty much anyone throwing one around loses my respect ( it indicates that they aren't willing or able to settle things in a proper manner and pull the weapons out before trying diplomacy ).
Sometimes good people do bad things in anger, however. Oatnet flamed the shit out of me when i was brand new to this forum, within my first ~20 posts, totally unprovoked. But beyond that, he has helped a lot of people and we've been civil since. Anthony sent me a nasty message, i let it slide, and eventually we got to talking shop about the ebike biz.
Sometimes people just react before thinking.. such is life.
I'm not apologizing for Anthony, I just want to see a truce from all sides involved as this was ridiculous.