super turbo 1000 lithium scooter

[sk8norcal]

cheapest lithium scooter on the market? $1000 ...
48v 12ah
32mph

http://www.amazon.com/Super-Turbo-1000- ... d_sbs_sg_2
http://www.superscootersales.com
http://www.superscooter.ca


similar sla versions,
x-treme x-600
evo powerboards

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belt kit and lithium pack.
their Chinese scooter 500w with lithium battery is $2877

http://www.scooter-ag.ch/schweiz/pages/ ... r-shop.php
http://www.scooter-ag.ch/schweiz/index.php

[Allex]

Looks like brushless version is on its way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ4JORtF ... ature=plcp

"Brushless is on its way. I'm guessing around a year away. It will be around a 200-300 $ upgrade due to having to change out the throttle and controller as well. This will make the scooter much faster and much more efficient."

[Gödel]

Cheapest based on $1 per watt for the motor power or ~$30 per each mph?

[sk8norcal]

^ cheapest retail price of any lithium scooter out there....

anyways, not really impressed with the quality or design of this particular full suspension scooter,
(I have an older "superscooter" with a super stiff frt shock and oversteep head angle )

I am looking into the Izip scooters with their bigger wheels...

[sk8norcal]

claims top speed 28mph




interesting amazon review,

They exaggerate many specs and confuse folks with misleading advertising about voltage. None of these reviews are amazon verified purchases. If you guys click on "other reviews" to see what else they reviewed, folks only reviewed the two scooters this company makes and no other items...The only reviewer on here who is a real person sounds like the owner of the company that makes them - he rated his own product well, what a surprise (he's the guy who says he is into scooters and has a hobby of doing this, just like the comments on their website, what a coincidence!) That's probably the only true thing in any of the reviews.

ALL 1000W scooters motor's are almost the same, gear ratios are the main thing that makes them different! There is a reason scooter laws limit you to having a 1000W motor, not a certain voltage, because all 1000W motors can only do so much. Power (watts) not Voltage (volts) determine how much mass you can accelerate - they should learn some physics if they build scooters.

I called the place to get some info and didn't reach anyone, then didn't get a call back despite their message saying they would return all calls. Far cry from the fanatical service, talking to the owner, etc, that you read about in these reviews...

They compare themselves to the goped iped 8 - a scooter that costs twice as much, which is really funny because that scooter also weighs half as much!
The goped 1000 is the comparable scooter actually, and it does not cost as much and does not exaggerate the battery life claims. You can know this for yourself just by thinking about it - how can a scooter with an identical power motor that weighs more get good battery life?

By the way - the goped's top speed is less because of the gear ratio, not the power of the motor (which is identical) which means it can climb hills better too.

Had to say something about all this fake advertising in reviews and BS crap they write.

[itchynackers]

FWIW, I have one of the super turbo 800 scooters from this guy. He is as honest and forthcoming as can be. Easy to reach. The scooter is better than I expected, by far. This is after wasting money on the x-500 piece o sh_t. To this day, I haven't had a single problem with the 800. I was at 22mph top speed on the 36V version, then I added a battery for 48V. I was at 28mph. Everything in the video looks consistent with what I've seen on my scooter. If you have any doubts about this guys character, just shoot him an email or call. Anyway, I'd have no problems buying from this guy again.

Adam

[sk8norcal]

FWIW, I have an older version of the superscooter and it looks to be the same as all the other ones that rolled off the Chinese assembly line.
Their cheezy sales video over exaggerate everything.

btw, X-500 is not the same scooter, its has no suspension.
not sure how one can manage to confuse the two...

[itchynackers]

Not sure why you thought I was confusing the two. You must be confused about that. I understand the x500 doesn't have suspension (as I own one, as mentioned). If you compare the frame style, they appear quite similar. That is why I mentioned the quality differences. I don't quite know why the super scooters branded one holds up better. But it does. Again, I own both of these, so I feel more qualified than most to make a judgement. Not sure what your motivations are here, but mine are simply to give real world truthful data on these scooters.

[sk8norcal]

If you compare the frame style, they appear quite similar.

your thinking is flawed.
one is full suspended and one is not.
cant get any simpler than that..
if you are getting the two model confused, you are really not qualified to make any type of comparisons.
not sure why you keep thinking your chinese scooter is better than the other rebranded chinese scooters.

[itchynackers]

That is why I said the FRAME. And I keep thinking that because it is true. Get over it. Or go get both scooters and then report back to me instead of speculating. Good god.

[sk8norcal]

Get over it. Or go get both scooters and then report back to me instead of speculating. Good god.

no need to get ur panties in a bunch.
when you are wrong you should admit it,
insteading of spreading false info.

like I said, I own an old superscooter and compared it to an Xtreme one of the same model, up close.
majority of the parts look exactly the same.

and I also test rode a new superscooter, same frame, just newer style forks, same as other re-branded chinese scooter on the market.
quality is walmart-grade at best.

Once more, superscooter doesn't have a rebranded version of the xtreme x-500,
so your comparison is invalid.
And the frame is actually constructed differently from the FS model.....

[itchynackers]

You are truly dense. Good luck getting through life.

[sk8norcal]

your superior chinese scooter is in the middle of that pile somewhere...
like all the other superior chinese scooters....

[sk8norcal]

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/50956 ... _.html?s=p

[Kin]

Sk8norcal, you're kind of being a prick. His point is that he compared them both, and prefers one. You're responding in a weirdly aggressive & quasi ad-hominem way to to him (or her). This is just an outsider perspective having just read the last half dozen posts. I could see someone getting riled up on amazon, maybe convinced that someone is a fake, but it's hardly likely that the superscooter guy would go all the way to ES to make fake reiews.


Besides, actually, there is definitively a difference in quality between chinese factories. Sourcing materials, staff diligence, etc. Plus, my biggest issue with chinese manufactoring is not usually the intended product (except when cheap plastic is used), but rather my issue is with the abysmal quality control and the tiny issues that should never have left the factory. On a few of your claims, for example: "how can a heavier scooter go further with the same power motor?" - well, efficiency of tranmission systems and a bigger battery are on obvious way. Not trying to refute you, you could be right, but the way you said it was hardly obvious that you would be correct.

[sk8norcal]

Sk8norcal, you're kind of being a prick. His point is that he compared them both, and prefers one. You're responding in a weirdly aggressive & quasi ad-hominem way to to him (or her). This is just an outsider perspective having just read the last half dozen posts.

Well, you are only reading half of the story, this started from another thread which I already pointed out that he was wrong and he had to jump into this thread (that I started) and make the same false claims to hype his scooter.
So, who's the prick now?

I could see someone getting riled up on amazon, maybe convinced that someone is a fake, but it's hardly likely that the superscooter guy would go all the way to ES to make fake reiews.

Huh? Go back and read it again, where did I state the superscooter guy is on ES making fake reviews?
I just reposted a review I saw on Amazon.

On a few of your claims, for example: "how can a heavier scooter go further with the same power motor?" - well, efficiency of tranmission systems and a bigger battery are on obvious way. Not trying to refute you, you could be right, but the way you said it was hardly obvious that you would be correct.

Again, I did not write that review, and nor did I make any claims.

And once again, he was comparing two DIFFERENT model scooters.

Did you even bother to look up the models we were talking about ?

[Allex]

I have the "copy" of the super 800 Elite, quoting, because it looks exactly the same. I love it, the SLA is crap tho, just changed it to lipo.
Range with SLA = 10km
Range with lipo 20Ah: 22km.
So I'm getting about 1km per 1Ah with 800W. Does this sound ok or should I get better distances?
They Claim up to 25km range with standard SLA, this just don't add up! Totally impossible! Or when they calculate: do they use flat surface with a speed of 5km/h?

[sk8norcal]

I have the "copy" of the super 800 Elite, quoting, because it looks exactly the same.

yup, that's the funny part, this superturbo dude claiming how his chinese scooter is the real deal, and everyone else's are copies....
and how his SLA batteries are superior ...

I guess a lot of kids buy this scooter, and they are gullible enough to buy into his sales pitch...

btw, how many volts are you running ?

and how much did you pay?
on the previous page, the Swiss "Alibre" is selling this same SLA scooter for $1400 us
which is crazy... way more than double the US price at $500...

[Allex]

Yeah but super scooters uses super batteries with shrink tube around cables, and others don't!
I'm on 36Volts payed 650USD or 4900SEK
They are on sale now for 530USD

I would love to have the belt drive from the swiss page but cost is almost the same as the whole scooter!

[Allex]

Well, finally some snow around here! Towing is fun!