REdiculous wrote:As far as cops are concerned, I'm hauling my genset to a friend's house so he can borrow it. If I was caught riding with the generator running, I didn't know you weren't allowed to do that - I won't run it unless I'm stopped.
4 A motor assisted cycle must not be equipped with a generator, alternator or similar device powered by a combustion engine.
dogman wrote: The "US ebike law" is not a motor vehicle statute. It's a selling a bike law. What is legal to ride on public streets is up to the states.
granolaboy wrote:In British Columbia, that's no longer considered a "motor assisted cycle"...4 A motor assisted cycle must not be equipped with a generator, alternator or similar device powered by a combustion engine.
SamTexas wrote:Sounds like it's well defined in BC. Is it also as well defined in other provinces?
“power-assisted bicycle” means a vehicle that:
(a) has steering handlebars and is equipped with pedals,
(b) is designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground,
(c) is capable of being propelled by muscular power,
(d) has one or more electric motors that have, singly or in combination, the following characteristics:
(i) it has a total continuous power output rating, measured at the shaft of each motor, of 500 W or less,
(ii) if it is engaged by the use of muscular power, power assistance immediately ceases when the muscular power ceases,
(iii) if it is engaged by the use of an accelerator controller, power assistance immediately ceases when the brakes are applied, and
(iv) it is incapable of providing further assistance when the bicycle attains a speed of 32 km/h on level ground,
(e) bears a label that is permanently affixed by the manufacturer and appears in a conspicuous location stating, in both official languages, that the vehicle is a power-assisted bicycle as defined in this subsection, and
(f) has one of the following safety features,
(i) an enabling mechanism to turn the electric motor on and off that is separate from the accelerator controller and fitted in such a manner that it is operable by the driver, or
(ii) a mechanism that prevents the motor from being engaged before the bicycle attains a speed of 3 km/h; (bicyclette assistée)
granolaboy wrote:Also, doesn't having a gas-powered generator sorta defeat the point? Why not just get a 50cc scooter and call it a day?
A little off topic: Why not just a 50cc scooter? Because many people - mostly DUI - cannot get a license. No license is required for an ebike. And in some states (Texas for sure) insurance is also required.
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This Law defines electric bicycles only for the purpose of Consumer Product Safety and does not allow for their use on roads. It is a safety criteria that manufacturers should use in building electric bicycles, which helps protect manufacturers from the threat of lawsuits from within states that attempt to legislate more stringent safety requirements.
"Bicycles" and "Electric Bicycles" are legally defined in the Texas Transportation Code, Subtitle C. Rules of the Road, Chapter 541,"Definintions" as follows:
Sec. 541.201. Vehicles. In this subtitle:
(2) "Bicycle" means a device that a person may ride and that is propelled by human power and has two tandem wheels at least one of which is more than 14 inches in diameter. The following definition of electric bicycle was passed by the Texas legislature in 2001:
(24) "Electric bicycle" means a bicycle that:
(A) is designed to be propelled by an electric motor, exclusively or in combination with the application of human power;
(B) cannot attain a speed of more than 20 miles per hour without the application of human power; and
(C) does not exceed a weight of 100 pounds.
The law reqarding the "operation" of "bicycles" and "electric bicycles" are in the Texas Transportation Code, Chapter 551., titled "Operation of Bicycles, Mopeds, and Play Vehicles" in Subchapter A, B, C, and D. as follows:
SamTexas wrote:So for my state (Texas), the law is exactly the same as the federal law.(A) is designed to be propelled by an electric motor, exclusively or in combination with the application of human power;
teklektik wrote:Two things: First this is distinctly different than the federal law in that it goes on (by specificity) to exclude power sources other than human. Second, the statute does not explicitly define the term 'propelled' so the law is (big surprise) open to interpretation based on the 'intent' as perceived by the court.
SamTexas wrote:teklektik wrote:Two things: First this is distinctly different than the federal law in that it goes on (by specificity) to exclude power sources other than human. Second, the statute does not explicitly define the term 'propelled' so the law is (big surprise) open to interpretation based on the 'intent' as perceived by the court.
I have no idea what you're talking about. Care to elaborate? Using layman terms if possible.
(A) ...exclusively or in combination with the application of human power;
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