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WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Postby o00scorpion00o » Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:24 pm

Seriously it's getting annoying!

I saw something I don't ever want to see here again yesterday!!!
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Postby Miles » Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:38 pm

We're doing our best to combat it!
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Postby neptronix » Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:43 pm

It's been pretty bad lately.
I'm a little shocked no basic PHP script / plugin has been written to combat this in all the years of vBulletin development.
A pretty simple algorithm would smack down over 1/2 the spam we see here. The patterns are quite obvious.

ES Mods, if you cry uncle over the spam, let me know. I do believe i have a partial solution in mind. I write PHP for a living. Send me a PM if you'd like help.
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Postby gestalt » Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:45 pm

Mayhaps there is some ronin haxor we can employ to our cause. I'm sure our fiefdom has enough ryu between us to buy the services of such a one.
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Postby Miles » Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:51 pm

Most likely we're on a list..... Half of the people who are registering at the moment are spammers.....
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Postby o00scorpion00o » Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:54 pm

neptronix wrote:It's been pretty bad lately.
I'm a little shocked no basic PHP script / plugin has been written to combat this in all the years of vBulletin development.
A pretty simple algorithm would smack down over 1/2 the spam we see here. The patterns are quite obvious.

ES Mods, if you cry uncle over the spam, let me know. I do believe i have a partial solution in mind. I write PHP for a living. Send me a PM if you'd like help.



How does that work ? I'm not a software man at all lol :mrgreen:
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Postby liveforphysics » Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:57 pm

Miles wrote:Most likely we're on a list..... Half of the people who are registering at the moment are spammers.....



Add a couple of questions to the registration process?

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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Postby neptronix » Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:09 pm

o00scorpion00o wrote:How does that work ? I'm not a software man at all lol :mrgreen:


Easy... i wrote some PHP lines that do this kind of thing for my company recently.
Spammers started to figure out how to use our contact form.
I set up a system where it would look for various 'red flags', or patterns that previous spammers had used.
If the system detected a certain amount of red flags, it would just not send the message, but it would log to a debug file.. just in case we had missed some legitimate customer contact.

Couple patterns i've seen on ES, just from the outside:

1) spammer signs up, makes 3-5 posts almost immediately.
2) If there is not a link in the message, there is nonsense in the message and a link in the signature.
3) If there is a link to the profile/signature, it probably consists of domain . extension & no link to a directory or html, php, jsp etc after that.

I would also bet there are repeat offender IP blocks that can just be straight up banned permanently.
Time between posts for a new user, and time between registration and first post are 2 big tipoffs.

There are probably other signs. Nowadays, spammers are quite sophisticated though, so you always have to stay 1 step ahead.

Back in the day when i administrated a bunch of mail servers, i could cut half the spam flow by just auto spam foldering words like 'viagra', 'v1agra', 'VlAGRA' ( with an lower case L instead of an I ), etc.

Luke's idea of more questions would help some.
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Postby REdiculous » Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:35 pm

How does that work ? I'm not a software man at all lol


if (weThinkUserIsSpammer(user_id) || weThinkPostIsSpam(post_id)) doSomethingAboutTheSpam(user_id, post_id);
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Postby o00scorpion00o » Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:41 pm

REdiculous wrote:
How does that work ? I'm not a software man at all lol


if (weThinkUserIsSpammer(user_id) || weThinkPostIsSpam(post_id)) doSomethingAboutTheSpam(user_id, post_id);
:wink:



Now that looks a lot like spam to me!!! :mrgreen:
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Postby o00scorpion00o » Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:44 pm

neptronix wrote:
o00scorpion00o wrote:How does that work ? I'm not a software man at all lol :mrgreen:


Easy... i wrote some PHP lines that do this kind of thing for my company recently.
Spammers started to figure out how to use our contact form.
I set up a system where it would look for various 'red flags', or patterns that previous spammers had used.
If the system detected a certain amount of red flags, it would just not send the message, but it would log to a debug file.. just in case we had missed some legitimate customer contact.

Couple patterns i've seen on ES, just from the outside:

1) spammer signs up, makes 3-5 posts almost immediately.
2) If there is not a link in the message, there is nonsense in the message and a link in the signature.
3) If there is a link to the profile/signature, it probably consists of domain . extension & no link to a directory or html, php, jsp etc after that.

I would also bet there are repeat offender IP blocks that can just be straight up banned permanently.
Time between posts for a new user, and time between registration and first post are 2 big tipoffs.

There are probably other signs. Nowadays, spammers are quite sophisticated though, so you always have to stay 1 step ahead.

Back in the day when i administrated a bunch of mail servers, i could cut half the spam flow by just auto spam foldering words like 'viagra', 'v1agra', 'VlAGRA' ( with an lower case L instead of an I ), etc.

Luke's idea of more questions would help some.



Interesting, but programming is beyond me! :mrgreen:

Why do they do it, especially if there is no links, does it give them a buzz or something ?
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Postby liveforphysics » Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:35 pm

They do it because someone somewhere pays someone else $0.0001 for each time they have a new unique user click some link.
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Postby Ykick » Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:39 pm

Marty explained in another thread they do it in order to move up on search engines. Apparently ES has standing and they're trying to ride those coat tails. Doesn't need to be links as keywords will direct hits to sites anyway.
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Postby bigmoose » Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:57 pm

Calling MRVass... calling MRVass you are needed in the server room! :mrgreen:
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Postby chroot » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:46 am

Another spamming in E-Bike Photos& Video section. rid spammer please! :lol:
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Postby neptronix » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:08 am

Bit frustrating because a simple script would prevent this particular instance..
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

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