JAMES MORRISON / EV COMPONENT : Major SCAM

[veecteam]

Hello ,
we're trying to organise a common lawsuit agains James Morrison who took the cells allready payed of costumers to sell them again for him
http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/sh ... 546p8.html
people who recently made an order are invited to cancel visa payment and get refund from their bank , the bank will then attack EV COMPONENTS in return
thanks to communicate about this major issue

[dnmun]

you should not have to file a separate lawsuit. if you write to the court which is administering the bankruptcy then you will have your property rights protected by the washington state circuit court.

stop payments if you can, through the credit card if they will do that for you, maybe up to 90 days, you should ask them.

[veecteam]

unfortunatly I payed the 2th of march (paypal , 2000$) and when I knew what happened it was too late (paypal dispute >45 days ) I can't even say my bank to cancel because paypal was the "client" not EV components
But at least I want that he makes the less victim as possible , especialy when I read on the other forum that he bought his 2nd Tesla with our orders
Those who used Visa , cancel this order and have refund through your bank as it was advised by some other victims , then banks have legal way to try to recuperate from him

[dnmun]

write a letter to the bankruptcy court detailing the money you sent him, dates, copies of the documents that prove you sent him money for the packs, and the court will send you a response and put you into their administrative proceedings.

[dtbker61]

write a letter to the bankruptcy court detailing the money you sent him, dates, copies of the documents that prove you sent him money for the packs, and the court will send you a response and put you into their administrative proceedings.

the problem is that the company is not actually is bankruptcy court. The CEO - James Morrison is attempting to continue to sell, but not deliver items that have been paid for, and just keeping the cash. MANY of us pre-paid for batteries in Jan/Feb, so it is too long ago to reverse charges. At this time there are several people pooling together to retain a lawfirm in the Olympia area to bring a class action to recover goods/compensation. There is a thread on DIYelectricCar at http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/sh ... stcount=92 or, you can send me a message with your direct email so I can add you to the pool if you are one of the many now stuck with non-delivery.

[dnmun]

file a criminal complaint with the local sheriff and have him arrested then. what he is doing is not legal, the sheriff will explain it to him.

and since it is interstate commerce, the fbi can arrest him for theft on federal charges also.

contact your state's attorney general, and call the attorney general in the state of washington and ask him to immediately seize all the assets of the company that you sent the money to.

this shoulda been done already if he has told you he is not in bankruptcy court and refuses to return your property.

you can contact the bank that cleared your payment and talk to the head of the bank's legal department. they may be able to block his account immediately if you can file charges.

[jondoh]

I've dealt with EV components on a number of occasions. I got my TS batteries from them as well as a charger. They've been very good to me. I'd like to think that this is a more an internal conflict inside the company instead of the company just blatantly trying to rip people off. It is unfortunate all the same.

[veecteam]

this is NOT a internal trouble , please don't put any doubt that could engage further victims to order from ev components
read carefully the post linked , there are evidences of the charges against him

[dtbker61]

As of the close of business yesterday there has been no bankruptcy filing by EV Components LLC. Therefore there is no court appointed trustee overseeing the liquidation of the company, so therefore James' decision to not ship paid items is plain and simple fraud.

We (a couple of Plaintiffs) initiated contact with the law firm of John Sinclair of Olympia, Washington, to put together a class action lawsuit on behalf of all damaged (non-delivery) customers. His business attorney, Paul Strophy, suggested that we first each file a complaint with the Attorney General, State of Washington. If enough customers complain their offices may act quickly to intervene.

http://www.atg.wa.gov/fileacomplaint.aspx

Also he suggested that we compile a list of potential plaintiffs who never received their merchandise from the company should a Class Action be necessary. Roy is volunteering to compile that list. You may send an email
with a copy of your PAID invoice attached to REMann1984_at_yahoo.com

You may also want to file a complaint with the FBI Internet Crime Unit as this issue probably qualifies as mail fraud and/or internet fraud for sure: http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx

[olaf-lampe]

I'm wondering why there is such a rumor about EVcomponents on the DIYec forum, while here on ES it's almost unnoticed?
I'm afraid here are still people ordering stuff not aware of the big bogus they fall for...
Isn't it worth to place a warning in the ev-business section?
-Olaf

[veecteam]

please put an ad wherever it's possible to do , James is selling cells which are not belonging to him.The worst is that some fresh costumers may receiv some so that the scam can last a while
(classic method) but please read through here there is no doubt , cancel all your orders through CC or check through bank opposition , and follow the instructions given for a complaint http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/sh ... post182798

[MitchJi]

Hi,

I can't even say my bank to cancel because paypal was the "client" not EV components

You need to get a different bank/visa card provider. Some won't cancel if its a Paypal but many (most?) will. Both of my Visa Card Providers will cancel Paypal transactions if I don't receive what I paid for.

[veecteam]

seems quite likely that Lithiumstorage has bought the last container from China (the last stolen cells , which should have been sent directly to european costumers)
http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/sh ... post184434

[Chillboy]

It makes you feel rotten when someone takes advantage of you like this, I know.
I had a really bad ebay experience and I just emailed all the contacts in this list and made the seller aware of the suitation and got a refund w/in 10 minutes and a phone call from an exec at paypal (yeah in todays impersonal email world from a net provider!).
Please only send to the appropriate person(s) but getting your message to the right person can make all the difference.

Here's the list of email addresses that you need to send your letter to..

account-review@paypal.com
aup@paypal.com
complaint-response@paypal.com
resolutions@paypal.com
escalations@paypal.com
complaints@paypal.com
RDutta@paypal.com
sthompson@paypal.com
crme@paypal.com
press@paypal.com
exec.relations@ebay.com

sthompson is probably the most important, but, send it to all of them, just to make sure that your letter is received.
Policies can be broken, esp. when they think they may end up named in the lawsuit and they have an easier recourse.

The United States Federal Trade Commission- http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/contact.shtm

The United States Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)- http://www.sec.gov/complaint.shtml

(obviously, you would want to use YOUR state's site, here..)
The Louisiana State Attorney General's Office- http://www.ag.louisiana.gov/Article....ID=36&catID=15

The California State Attorney General's Office- http://ag.ca.gov/contact/complaint_form.php?cmplt=CL

The United States Federal Reserve- http://www.federalreserveconsumerhel...nfo.cfm?info=1

The Better Business Bureau- https://odr.bbb.org/odrweb/public/complaintlink.aspx

The FBI's Internet Crime Center- https://complaint.ic3.gov/ctf.aspx

[Gordo]

It makes you feel rotten when someone takes advantage of you like this, I know.

In March when I first became aware of the TS 40Ah cells for sale at $44, I was interested and sent an email. The reply was basically send money and we will send cells when they arrive. I asked for an address and phone number? NO answer. On further checking, I could not find a phone number or street address in Lacey, WA. I then took the time to post a warning, which consisted of "NO PHONE NUMBER, NO ADDRESS, NO ORDER.." This was not a lucky guess, this was the normal method, we do business. Never buy a product based on price, or sooner or later you will get burned. My son does not listen either and he just got ripped for $250 thinking he was getting a $800 camera from a poor kid who needed college tuition. He was not taken advantage of, he was stupid!

[veecteam]

just found a funny blog in this sad story http://elithion.com/blog/?p=8
James Morrisson stole a lot of people to buy 2 Tesla ...
We victims all received a notification from Bankrupcy Court confirming that bankrupcy case was filed ONLY the July 15 , 2010
..confirming that James Morrisson before that date sold some goods already payed and not belonging to him , out of any liquidation process.

[eevee]

Has anyone had dealings with evassemble.com ?? Definitely something fishy going on there too.

[yopappamon]

Has anyone had dealings with evassemble.com ?? Definitely something fishy going on there too.

Explain?

I had no issues with my order. They have always answered my questions and emails.

[eevee]

Has anyone had dealings with evassemble.com ?? Definitely something fishy going on there too.

Explain?

I had no issues with my order. They have always answered my questions and emails.

Seems they switch around people there that they call Michael. It's a different guy then I have dealt with previously. They answer messages when they want(when they have stock??) and ignore messages when they dont. Sometimes they are quick and professional, other times just ridiculous. Some people have waited long for their orders, others like yourself have got their quick. My dealings were very very very slow, as if someone was buying time, but when my order shipped, it was incredibly fast. So this is definitely a mixed review. When it "works" it works great, when it doesn't work great, it sucks! no in between.

[Spacey]

Has anyone had dealings with evassemble.com ?? Definitely something fishy going on there too.

I got my battery and charger from them.... damn good pack as well.

[mwkeefer]

So what is the "REAL" status of this situation? By real I mean have the initial investors for large qty of cells received either cells or reimbursement by now.

If the thread is correct and Mr. Morrison collected monies for future delivery of product then:

1.) If it can be shown he had no intent to even fill the orders, that is Wire Fraud under USC 18 - one count for each transaction which he didn't come through with, assume 1 year per transaction if convicted or 2mo if he pleas

2.) If he had at one time planned to fill the orders but somthing happened with his supply line after he received the payment so he "decided" not to refund or provide promised product - that's theft and since it occoured within the confines of wired space, it crosses state lines by default becoming Federal Theft charges.

3.) Giving all benefit of the doubt - assuming he received payments, used those to place order via supplier and got stiffed himself... that would suck and while it's not fair, there would be no criminal laws broken.

4.) If you paid the "Corporation" regardless of who runs it, you must realize that the entire point of a corporation is to limit your personal exposure financially (amongst other things)... so if in fact #3 happened but he still had enough personal wealth (not corporate funds) to buy a second Tesla... then he committed no crime.

IMHO - If this is still an open issue a few things should be done (dnmun had most of them already as I glazed these posts over):

1.) I would contact the state's attorney generals office, ask to speak with whichever department is less busy - Fraud or Theft, I know that sounds silly but it opens the conversation correctly and will get their attention and peak their interest.

2.) As directed contact the FBI cybercrimes (the sale and communications were online right?) office and ask to file a complaint and have an agent contact you to complete a "302" - seriously, quote that you need to speak with someone in cybercrime to report multiple cases of wire fraud... once you have that person and have explained the rough cut, ask them to have someone contact you to complete an official "302" - that's FEEB speak for phone interview with 2 agents - they never tell you there are 2 agents and only one speaks but it's their "official statement". Also be sure to mention that the activity is ongoing to the best of your knowledge.

3.) After cybercrimes, contact the white collar crimes division - these guys will deal with the Ponzie scheme scenario which seems to be taking place where the shell game is being played with some customers monies and others are being fulfilled to continue the deception and theft. Explain it all and then the current status and finally, again request an agent contact you to take an official "302"

4.) There are some new federal laws which apply to paypal - when you send them correspondence, be sure to include the wording:

"Vendor committed fraud by wire using your payment service with not just me but multiple customer" and "Now it seems vendor is shipping selectively to continue their scheme" - operative words are vendor, fraud by wire, payment service and continued scheme - you don't need em all, but it will force an actual investigation by the Paypal loss prevention department (yep same as your credit card company loss prevention people, fraud cops at the service level) - although they have had a department like this for years... only over the past 3 years has federal regulation changed to require certain "due diligence" in investigation of "specific illegal activiity"... the icing is the "continuing" part

I hope this has all resolved itself by now but if not... there ya have it.

-Mike

[veecteam]

There is a lawsuit of course running
bankrupcy was declared in july , but already in march James decided to take orders and to stop delivering anything
He was just using the money of these orders to pay his 2nd Tesla Roadster : he went completly crazy at this moment , thinking that opening a bankrupcy case later would erase this criminal offence
he didn't deliver the prepayed cells from thundersky , received in Seattle but resold them to ..lithium storage (mike Collier)
all TS cells you got from this date are stolen goods , and Mike knew it when he bought them cheaper than factory cost

[Gordo]

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[amberwolf]

So how did this all work out, anyway?