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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby gensem » Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:40 pm

Looking forward to have mine delivered and I ll finally be able to beat the crap out of the cromotor!
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby ricklearned » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:27 pm

Farfle wrote:Sorry mate, I don't have any more, I will do another batch after the April grange race.


I am also interested.
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby GITech » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:26 pm

gensem wrote:Looking forward to have mine delivered and I ll finally be able to beat the crap out of the cromotor!


Hi gensem,

Have you recieved that shock you sent me a link for yet? If so, how is it working out?

Got pics and thoughts on it?

I haven't ordered one yet, waiting to hear how it will work out for you.

Thanks,
Jay :)
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby gensem » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:52 pm

GITech wrote:Hi gensem,

Have you recieved that shock you sent me a link for yet? If so, how is it working out?

Got pics and thoughts on it?

I haven't ordered one yet, waiting to hear how it will work out for you.

Thanks,
Jay :)



Not yet Jay, shock did not arrive yet (might be on customs). Did not bother to check the tracking because Im waiting on the swingarm too.
I ll make sure to post an update as soon as I start building the Genesis.
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby GITech » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:57 pm

Ok, thank you. :)
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby nicobie » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:42 pm

Happy days. The swingarm made it this PM.

Looks nice, can't see it ever breaking.

Your pricing is too low. If you offered a pinched drop out and a derailer tab you could get much more.

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As it is, you still need to up the buyin.

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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby Farfle » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:44 pm

Glad you got yours in! working on that and more for the v.3
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby GITech » Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:53 pm

I'm a little bit sad now...

Looks great.

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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby stinkler » Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:29 pm

looks like it belongs on a soviet tank.
Man look at those dropouts! woo!
Stinking usps is teasing me saying estimated delivery today.
Do they all come with disc brake mounts?
I am so pumped woo!
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby auraslip » Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:00 pm

It's really, really, really, really nice. If the genesis had more room in the triangle for batteries...... I'd be first in line..
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby GITech » Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:15 pm

For batts I'm thinkin' vertical on the 'sides' and horizontal in the belly ( :shock: ), underneath the tri?!

Or all in the belly might work too, leaving the tri open for ..whatever..

The belly of the beast..! 8) :twisted: hehe, hmmmm... :mrgreen:

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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby nicobie » Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:39 pm

Thought you guys would like to see what my son in law did with one of those swingarms. He added pinch bolts and a derailer tab to the dropouts.

He is running 22s lipo with a Lyen 12 fet. 18s2p in the triangle and 4s2p on the rear rack that powers a HS3548 motor (12 wires x 5 turns). 17" motorcycle rims with a 2.75" tire.

Items still to be added are better forks and rear suspension shock and 140mm cranks. He is not done with the battery enclosure either, just needs to make it pretty.

No idea of the top speed yet, but on it's first run with a battery that was 5v low, it hit 40mph in a city block and still was pulling strong. The longer swingarm really helps control wheelies.

Dave is stroked. Check out his EV grin. :D

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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby stinkler » Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:18 pm

WOO that's awesome! Super cool battery setup!
I got mine today too.
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I think I need a 203mm rotor to make this work.
what size rear rotor are you running?

The arm is very well made. the dropouts are freakin GREAT!
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby damcard » Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:58 pm

Do you think I'll get mine soon? Tracking number? -Damcard
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby nicobie » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:37 pm

Anybody planning to change the front forks and rear shock on these frames. I'm wondering what is out there that would work.
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby GITech » Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:38 pm

I've got Fox 40's on mine. They fit right on using the stock bearings and sfuff.

I'm waiting on Gensem to report his feedback reguarding a rear shock he will be using. It looks good at a great price.

Any word yet Gensem?

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Jay

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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby ZOMGVTEK » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:00 pm

The suspension on this bike is definitely even worse than my old Schwinn S60. It will probably be a good idea to replace at least the front fork with something that can take high speed braking a bit better. I'm worried about the stock fork exploding under the force of a 6 pot Gatorbrake and 9" rotor...

Anyone have any recommendations for decent cheap stuff? I never purchased bike suspension parts.
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby gensem » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:22 pm

My front ll be a DNM dual crown fork... rear shock was not delivered yet. But i ll post updates when i get it.
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby auraslip » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:27 pm

I wanna see some one try a motorycle fork on one of these bad boys. ---> viewtopic.php?f=2&t=37458
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby teklektik » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:35 pm

ooOOOoo! Those adapters are neat! (sound of wheels turning...) :D
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby auraslip » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:40 pm

too bad those forks weigh almost 30 lbs.

that and the extended swingarm should keep the nose down ;)
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby stinkler » Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:05 am

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-MTB-Bicycle-Bike-Adj-Rear-Suspension-Shocks-750LBS-IN-165mm-/370590189830?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5648e58906
The shock size is 6.5 x 1.5 in.

Any 1 1/8 steerer fork should work.
tons of stuff on ebay that people take off when upgrading.

Hay Farfle! How much for the rest of the bike? :D
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby damcard » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:20 am

Hey Farfle, where ya at? -Damcard
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby SkyknightJohn » Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:06 pm

Hi Farfle - great design. If you're keeping count, add me to the list interested in a swingarm from your next production run. Thanks.
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Re: Genesis extended swingarm sale thread.

Postby neptronix » Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:57 pm

nicobie wrote:Anybody planning to change the front forks and rear shock on these frames. I'm wondering what is out there that would work.


http://www.bigboxbikes.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=777&start=10

Using some washers/bushings, this guy installed an X Fusion O2 prime.
I bet you can install various other brands too.
I don't think the mounting system here is proprietary in any way.

http://bb.nsmb.com/showthread.php?t=126812

Here is one opinion of that shock VS a low end Fox shock.

I am putting an old school rock shox judy on the front of mine ( old school, but solid ), and eventually going for the X Fusion.

I'm glad the rear shocks are so cheap.. :).. may be lighter than the rear spring as well!
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