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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby korpin » Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:50 pm

will the controller control two motors?...and also the CA??? oh and whose ass was that by seats?.....are there any girls on this board?.....
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby Hyena » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:23 pm

korpin wrote:saw this on some computer looked like it was designed around stealth type bike

How do you arrive at that conclusion ? Are you looking for an excuse to post in this thread ??

korpin wrote:will the controller control two motors?...and also the CA???

No
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby Cowardlyduck » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:06 pm

duncanjerry wrote:Hello all!!! I was just curious to see how many miles other stealth riders have put on there bombers or fighters. I'll go first, I'm at 2000miles in about eight months.

Ps I'm bomber #36


I've only had mine about 4 months. Already put over 1500km on it. :D

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby korpin » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:22 pm

Hyena wrote:
korpin wrote:saw this on some computer looked like it was designed around stealth type bike

How do you arrive at that conclusion ? Are you looking for an excuse to post in this thread ?? ANSWER:....IT APPEARS TO BE TWO MOTOR STEALTH BOMBER DRIVE TRAIN...EXTRA MOTOR ADDED

korpin wrote:will the controller control two motors?...and also the CA???
HMMM THOUGHT MAYBE THATS HOW THEY DID TWO WHEEL DRIVE
No
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THE TWO ASSES BY BIKE SEAT IN MEMBERS PROFILE PHOTO....PERHAPS THEY WERE TRANSEXUALS?
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Re: PERHAPS THIS WILL CLEAR STEALTH DRIVTAIN DRAWING ISSUUE

Postby korpin » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:36 pm

HOPE THIS revision makes sense I told him he was wrong he re did it....hmmm I have seen a two hub bicycle though
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Re: PERHAPS THIS WILL CLEAR STEALTH DRIVTAIN DRAWING ISSUUE

Postby Cowardlyduck » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:47 pm

korpin wrote:HOPE THIS revision makes sense I told him he was wrong he re did it....hmmm I have seen a two hub bicycle though


Dude, how old are you?
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby GrayKard » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:27 pm

QMS wrote:Here is few pics of micro switch controlled re-gen brake setup!

I ride my e-bike in the rain a lot and was using one micro switch for regen and one for cruise. They aren't very waterproof as they both acted up in the first storm. Second storm the regen one gave out and I had to switch it for the cruise (while stopped under an overpass out of the rain). I stopped using them soon after.

I switched to brake levers with built in regen switch (not an option with hydraulic brakes). And a throttle with built in button for cruise. Haven't had them on long enough to know how they will hold up to the elements though.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby QMS » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:40 pm

GrayKard wrote:
QMS wrote:Here is few pics of micro switch controlled re-gen brake setup!

I ride my e-bike in the rain a lot and was using one micro switch for regen and one for cruise. They aren't very waterproof as they both acted up in the first storm. Second storm the regen one gave out and I had to switch it for the cruise (while stopped under an overpass out of the rain). I stopped using them soon after.

I switched to brake levers with built in regen switch (not an option with hydraulic brakes). And a throttle with built in button for cruise. Haven't had them on long enough to know how they will hold up to the elements though.

Gary (not a Stealth owner :cry: )


Hi Gary. Thought about heatshrinking the switch eventually, just an experiment at this stage. Wanted to see how riding styles and different braking situations worked. Sorry to hear you are not a Stealth owner,i hope you are trying to remedy this! :mrgreen:
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby QMS » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:11 pm

Paul_G wrote:Is there a Bomber owner here thats handy with metal that could make me a battery box for a 2nd battery? My aluminum rack does not last more than 500 miles with an extra 25 lb battery on it. On long trips I run both in parallel.

I was thinking maybe it could mount on the seat post but be below the seat on an angle to get the weight lower as well but it would need to clear the wheels travel. If it cant be made that way a steel stronger rack would do.

I'll "try" to draw a picture :)

If interested please contact me name your price...I'm not looking for cheap....thanks


Hi Paul G. Was looking at your diagram! Definitely doable , the weight on the seat post and clearing the rear wheel travel concerns me a little though. was thinking a steel cornered frame with aluminium side panels with some cut outs for ventilation. Might be able to clear the wheel travel by elongating the enclosure a little. I am able to bolt this assembly together only as i dont have a welder yet! but if i was doing this for myself i would bolt it anyway. If you could supply battery dimensions (H W D) of TWO preferred configerations i will try to come up a design, this will include room for padding seat clamp and wiring exit port. cheers Linc.
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby Cowardlyduck » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:18 pm

Discovered a cool trick the other day...thought I would share.

I got my power limit wires on the CA set to 250W at the factory. I've since installed a switch to control this, posted previously in this thread.

I discovered that the power limit was only 250W when the CA max amps was set to 60. If I set the CA to 47 max amps it would limit it to 200W when the power limit button is pressed, which I find useful for very slow conservative cruising for long distance.
Therefore, I assumed the power limit in the CA must only be a percentage of the max amps set. So the other day I tried setting the CA to max amps of 85. This gave me roughly 360W with the power limit button pressed. :D
The battery BMS does the job of limiting the Max amps draw to 60 still. I also tried 99amps and this gives me roughly 420W.
This is HEAPS useful for long distance off road riding. as I can use it in limited mode (at 420W) most of the time, then flick to full power when I need to get up a hill. :D

I would love to get a 3 or 4 mode switch eventually so I can easily flick between power modes, but that's a long way off at this stage as I have other priorities in terms of modding the bike for now.

Anyway, just thought id share. :)

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby full-throttle » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:36 pm

Cowardlyduck wrote:Discovered a cool trick the other day
You're better off changing the Aux threshold ;) Leave the Amp limit alone
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby Cowardlyduck » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:45 pm

full-throttle wrote:
Cowardlyduck wrote:Discovered a cool trick the other day
You're better off changing the Aux threshold ;) Leave the Amp limit alone

Oh...lol, wondered if there might be an easier way. :oops:
Haven't looked yet, but what values would I set the AUX threshold to? Is it just a simple wat or amp value?
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby full-throttle » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:53 pm

Lower whatever value you got there (0.65 for Aus) to increase the limit, if you hit 0 and still want more increase the Amp limit
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby Kepler » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:54 pm

full-throttle wrote:
Cowardlyduck wrote:Discovered a cool trick the other day
You're better off changing the Aux threshold ;) Leave the Amp limit alone


What would you know? :P :lol:
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby Kepler » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:58 pm

Cowardlyduck wrote:Discovered a cool trick the other day...thought I would share.

I got my power limit wires on the CA set to 250W at the factory. I've since installed a switch to control this, posted previously in this thread.

I discovered that the power limit was only 250W when the CA max amps was set to 60. If I set the CA to 47 max amps it would limit it to 200W when the power limit button is pressed, which I find useful for very slow conservative cruising for long distance.
Therefore, I assumed the power limit in the CA must only be a percentage of the max amps set. So the other day I tried setting the CA to max amps of 85. This gave me roughly 360W with the power limit button pressed. :D
The battery BMS does the job of limiting the Max amps draw to 60 still. I also tried 99amps and this gives me roughly 420W.
This is HEAPS useful for long distance off road riding. as I can use it in limited mode (at 420W) most of the time, then flick to full power when I need to get up a hill. :D

I would love to get a 3 or 4 mode switch eventually so I can easily flick between power modes, but that's a long way off at this stage as I have other priorities in terms of modding the bike for now.

Anyway, just thought id share. :)

Cheers


Just a minor correction. It would have been the controller's current limit stopping the current going any higher, not the BMS. Its a good point of discussion though and something I am sure will be used by others.
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby full-throttle » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:05 pm

GrayKard wrote:
QMS wrote:Here is few pics of micro switch controlled re-gen brake setup!

I ride my e-bike in the rain a lot and was using one micro switch for regen and one for cruise. They aren't very waterproof as they both acted up in the first storm. Second storm the regen one gave out and I had to switch it for the cruise (while stopped under an overpass out of the rain). I stopped using them soon after.
You could use a sealed micro switch :!:
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby QMS » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:42 pm

Hey Full-throttle! Yes i could, and probably will if i am happy happy with the way it works in the long run!!!!!!!! Found this link!
http://sensing.honeywell.com/products/b ... 025&N=3640
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby Hyena » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:35 am

I have a seperate button on mine that I activate with my thumb, I actually mainly just use it and the front brakes when slowing down and the back brake largely for skidding! It seems to lock up very easy with the knobbies

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby Cowardlyduck » Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:27 am

Hyena wrote:I have a seperate button on mine that I activate with my thumb, I actually mainly just use it and the front brakes when slowing down and the back brake largely for skidding! It seems to lock up very easy with the knobbies


Yeah, I do the same. I think that button comes standard on new Stealth's now. I really like it, as it allows you to control everything independently.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby QMS » Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:45 am

Cowardlyduck wrote:
Hyena wrote:I have a seperate button on mine that I activate with my thumb, I actually mainly just use it and the front brakes when slowing down and the back brake largely for skidding! It seems to lock up very easy with the knobbies


Yeah, I do the same. I think that button comes standard on new Stealth's now. I really like it, as it allows you to control everything independently.

Cheers


Hi C D. Yes it is standard on new Stealth's! When riding with gloves on it can be hard to locate the button sometimes. I wanted an automatic activation method. By being auto it also increases the re-gen percentage on an average ride :lol:
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby Hyena » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:43 am

Got a picture QMS ? I have a seperate motorcycle switch cluster on mine. The button I use is normally the horn.
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby QMS » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:17 am

Hyena wrote:Got a picture QMS ? I have a seperate motorcycle switch cluster on mine. The button I use is normally the horn.


Hi Hyena. See page 98 for my micro switch set up! The Honeywell site also has some great switches and clusters :mrgreen:
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby Paul_G » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:22 am

QMS wrote:
Paul_G wrote:Is there a Bomber owner here thats handy with metal that could make me a battery box for a 2nd battery? My aluminum rack does not last more than 500 miles with an extra 25 lb battery on it. On long trips I run both in parallel.

I was thinking maybe it could mount on the seat post but be below the seat on an angle to get the weight lower as well but it would need to clear the wheels travel. If it cant be made that way a steel stronger rack would do.

I'll "try" to draw a picture :)

If interested please contact me name your price...I'm not looking for cheap....thanks


Hi Paul G. Was looking at your diagram! Definitely doable , the weight on the seat post and clearing the rear wheel travel concerns me a little though. was thinking a steel cornered frame with aluminium side panels with some cut outs for ventilation. Might be able to clear the wheel travel by elongating the enclosure a little. I am able to bolt this assembly together only as i dont have a welder yet! but if i was doing this for myself i would bolt it anyway. If you could supply battery dimensions (H W D) of TWO preferred configerations i will try to come up a design, this will include room for padding seat clamp and wiring exit port. cheers Linc.


Thanks for the offer but I want a Bomber owner as they will need to make sure it clears the wheel travel and I would want it welded steel. Also Bomber battery's don't need cooling holes as that run cool.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby QMS » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:32 am

Paul_G wrote:
QMS wrote:
Paul_G wrote:Is there a Bomber owner here thats handy with metal that could make me a battery box for a 2nd battery? My aluminum rack does not last more than 500 miles with an extra 25 lb battery on it. On long trips I run both in parallel.

I was thinking maybe it could mount on the seat post but be below the seat on an angle to get the weight lower as well but it would need to clear the wheels travel. If it cant be made that way a steel stronger rack would do.

I'll "try" to draw a picture :)

If interested please contact me name your price...I'm not looking for cheap....thanks


Hi Paul G. Was looking at your diagram! Definitely doable , the weight on the seat post and clearing the rear wheel travel concerns me a little though. was thinking a steel cornered frame with aluminium side panels with some cut outs for ventilation. Might be able to clear the wheel travel by elongating the enclosure a little. I am able to bolt this assembly together only as i dont have a welder yet! but if i was doing this for myself i would bolt it anyway. If you could supply battery dimensions (H W D) of TWO preferred configerations i will try to come up a design, this will include room for padding seat clamp and wiring exit port. cheers Linc.


Thanks for the offer but I want a Bomber owner as they will need to make sure it clears the wheel travel and I would want it welded steel. Also Bomber battery's don't need cooling holes as that run cool.

Paul G

Hi Paul G. I AM A STEALTH BOMBER OWNER and the South Australian rep for Stealth Electric Bikes! In my experience the batterys get quite warm when charging! Sorry i couldnt help :cry:
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Postby voicecoils » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:34 am

Paul_G wrote:Thanks for the offer but I want a Bomber owner as they will need to make sure it clears the wheel travel and I would want it welded steel. Also Bomber battery's don't need cooling holes as that run cool.

Paul G


I think it might be a good idea to get the battery box welded to a steel seatpost itself. It's a lot of mass to have cantilevered off an aluminium/carbon seatpost.

Maybe you should ride out to Enertrac on Long Island with your Bomber Paul and see if they'll fabricate one for you. 30-35miles away from you. They have a really nice workshop and Mark's super enthusiastic about 2 wheeled EVs.
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