Affordable 9C “wife kits” (sale over - see last post)

[methods]

One can't without losing money.

-methods

[Kinni420]

I bought this full kit with the 40A controller. First ride was today (on moderately broken in LiPos)

18s1p, 7.5 miles, minor pedaling here and there, used 2.473 Ah, avg speed of 15, max 25 (haven't really got on it yet), 22.7 Wh/mi, 1.2% uphill slope (+550/-50 elev change)

you can see my post with LOTS of pics at:

http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/vi ... =3&t=36799

update here: riding this motor full out on same 18s. My normal ride 11 miles. I can just make this without hitting CA limit of 65v with near zero pedaling. Highly efficient and cool set up. I average around 10.5 miles (16km) at 24 mph (38kph) with 3.5 Ah burned.

Hard uphill singletrack ride last weekend produced "warm" controller, battery and motor temps (maybe 100F max 8-10% slope for 1 mile (50C for 1.6Km).

[Beachcruzer]

Well Methods prepare to lose some money on another order, 'cause I just test-rode 999zip999's setup, and this motor rocks! Acceleration up to 23 mph was great, and once there the efficiency went through the roof. I was cruising 23 mph pulling less than 500 watts. No pedaling of course. I don't pedal.

What really sold me was the steep hill we turned up. About 200 yards of maybe 15 percent grade. A fricken wall, basically. Zip's 2810 climbed it at about 12 mph, pulling about 2000 watts. I got to the top and turned around to see where Zip and my bike were. They were not even in sight. I rode halfway back down and here's Zip walking my bike up the hill. It was nice of him not to fry my motor.

So with 60 volts and a 35 amp controller, this 2810 is a mountain goat. Efficiency at 23 mph (the max at this voltage) was really impressive too. I'm going to run a higher voltage for a little more top end, but all-in-all, I was very impressed with this motor. Zip's build is solid too. A bunch of Makita drill batteries mounted in-frame on a good old-school mountain bike. Feels really solid at speed.

Zip, thanks for the test ride buddy.

[dogman]

I think a lot of folks would like this winding if they ever really gave it a try. Like multi day test.

The typical ES crowd just wants top speed and more of it. But for most of us, about 1500w fed into this motor works quite well. You just have to use more than 36v, to get the speed back up is all.

If laws were different, I think this kind of slower winding would be standard. 20 mph top speed, but 2000w allowed. The current 750 watt limit leaves the winding choice for the speed at that power level a too fast winding since they want to reach the top speed at 36v. With a higher watt limit, they'd realise they could feed 48 or 60 v into a slower winding, still stay slow enough to be legal, but have a more versatile motor for all grades of road.

I say screw the watt limit, who's going to be able to measure it. Just run the watts you need and stay close to the legal speed and you fly under the radar with your higher watts.

That approach makes this motor at 48-60v perfect.

[itchynackers]

I just bought a 2810 from methods. Loving it so far.

[methods]

I am running low / out of controllers so this sale is probably going to morph a little in the near future. I probably have a 6fet or two laying around - need to look.

I have CA's (both direct plug and stand alone)
I have regen throttles (in a week or so)
I have front and rear 2810 hubs
I have Justins small and tidy front torque arm
I will soon have Justin's new rear torque arm (second post from top in blog)
I have Freewheels
I have I have freewheel removal tools
I have spoke wrenches

I am going to put together an attractive package with everything except the controller and batteries.

We are in a transition with controllers at the moment... trying to set up production for higher power 18fet units. We plan to produce something similar (feature wise) to what Lyen is offering but a little higher end - heavier wires that are plug and play, Crystalyte & ebikes.ca compliant connections, higher production standards on the boards (thicker traces, cleaned, conformal coated, 30V-100V with no resistor change, etc). These will be significantly more expensive than Lyen controllers because we use expensive materials and we do our own production - but for those who can afford and want "better" - this will be something you will want to look at.

Basically we are going to make an ebikes.ca controller with more power and more features.

Also.... MethTek is in the process of moving out to the woods to do this full time. I am super slow on email and PM's at the moment so please be patient. I basically scan my emails for existing customer support (which I handle ASAP) and answer new sales emails only once or twice a week.

-methods

[teklektik]

I am running low / out of controllers so this sale is probably going to morph a little in the near future. I probably have a 6fet or two laying around - need to look.

So this means the current sale packages are no longer available, correct?

I am going to put together an attractive package with everything except the controller and batteries.

ETA for new packages?
(Trying to determine to buy items a la carte or wait )

[hjns]

We are in a transition with controllers at the moment... trying to set up production for higher power 18fet units. We plan to produce something similar (feature wise) to what Lyen is offering but a little higher end - heavier wires that are plug and play, Crystalyte & ebikes.ca compliant connections, higher production standards on the boards (thicker traces, cleaned, conformal coated, 30V-100V with no resistor change, etc). These will be significantly more expensive than Lyen controllers because we use expensive materials and we do our own production - but for those who can afford and want "better" - this will be something you will want to look at.

Basically we are going to make an ebikes.ca controller with more power and more features.

You may want to provide a controller that is matched to Zombie's future Cromotor. Should be a nice cooperation...

[The Mighty Volt]

Very interested in these new-sounding controllers. Keep up the good work Methods, thanks.

[methods]

Looks like I have two controllers on the shelf - so the sale is still on. They are currently set up for 25A. If you want 35-40A give it a day for Matthew to make the mod and calibrate the shunt.

New packages?
Well... Waiting on Throttles and torque arms.
I am willing to put together custom packages at this point - but be prepared to be patient as I am totally behind on emails right now.

-methods

I am running low / out of controllers so this sale is probably going to morph a little in the near future. I probably have a 6fet or two laying around - need to look.

So this means the current sale packages are no longer available, correct?

I am going to put together an attractive package with everything except the controller and batteries.

ETA for new packages?
(Trying to determine to buy items a la carte or wait )

[methods]

Very interested in these new-sounding controllers. Keep up the good work Methods, thanks.

I actually feel like I am going backwards..... I landed the first batch of 18 fet controllers what feels like YEARS ago... and now here I am coming full circle. At least this time we dont have to screw around with the power resistors and programming is getting easier.

We will be eliminating a lot of the messing nonsense wires that come out of the controller and working to integrate into the V3 CA for a lot of that functionality. Going to be the first batch of non-diode controllers (i.e. not backwards compatible without mods)

-methods

[teklektik]

One last question - what 26" rim do you use?
(...it seems there's always just one more.... )

[methods]

The Sketchy Chinese Dude who assembles my 9C wheels in China uses the cheapest rim available. Color is "shiny". Material is "shiny".

If you are asking that question then my answer is that you should re-lace into a quality high end rim - double wall welded etc. I run these rims and I am fine with them... but then I am broke. If you have cash and love high end then go for it. There are some pictures on my website

http://www.methtek.com/2011/11/12/2812-20-front-37/

-methods

[Beachcruzer]

Looks like I have two controllers on the shelf - so the sale is still on. They are currently set up for 25A. If you want 35-40A give it a day for Matthew to make the mod and calibrate the shunt.

PM sent.

[Macgyversklz]

PM sent

[methods]

Ok.... I guess this means I have to actually check my PM's now

Let me get my shovel....

-methods

[Kinni420]

this is actually a Power Circle rim on my 2810 kit. very nice rim. you can see pics of it on my thread. wait ill find one. came with the kit.

[teklektik]

Thanks! Kind of hard to figure out exactly which Power Circle rim it is, but if it's single wall, then it's probably a P18K. This is for a low stress bike so it should do fine.

[999zip999]

I took that sticker off 2nd. day. Plus the spokes needed adjusting a couple of times. Can't find the size of that nipple yet. Plus there is a 9c ( ? ) wine at 14-15mph then goes away. I do love the setup, But after beachcomer's 77v40a cruiser w/coaster brakes at 38mph an atoema front hub.. I'm going to 72v tomorrow. I do Love it and would buy will buy again soon. Thanks method's

[methods]

I sell spoke wrenches that work with all the larger spokes used on hub motors (13G,12G etc) - I think they are $9 bucks or something.

They are rusty junk, but they work and we use them here.

http://www.methtek.com/2011/11/12/spoke-wrench-21/

-methods

[Kinni420]

Plus there is a 9c ( ? ) wine at 14-15mph then goes away.

I get that too at 16 mph. If you watch my video (link in signature) you can hear it at 3:18. Mildly annoying but acceptable as hell!

for some reason that spoke nipple is a really. REALLY wierd size. Even my high end bike shop was puzzled when I tried to get a wrench from them. 12 is too small 13 is too big and strips nipples. Just be careful with the 13.

[methods]

We are finally starting to have some of our longer lead items land.

We now have in stock and available:

Full Twist Regen Throttles
Half Twist Regen Throttles
7spd freewheels 11T-30T
Water cut inside washers
Large Screen CA's
Stand Alone CA's

Still waiting for Justins new torque arm design to arrive.
Still working on our new 18 fet line

Mix and match with anything above.

Yes I realize I am 20 PM's in the hole.... Easter caught me by surprise. I think tomorrow is the big day to dig through all my PM's

-methods

[Tommy L]

Got mine!

Excellent service from Methods!

If you need 30mph, I run 28s1p 38120 of headway at 89.6v nom/717wh available (95v off the charger) with
Methods 7225 controller shunt to 40amp. CA set to 28 amps. 2500-3000 watts max with this set up.
Once you get rolling to WOT good and efficient at 26wh/km (42wh/mile) 8miles use 333wh (pack weight in back pack 23lbs).
Looks like 23lbs of LiFePO4 will get me 22km/13.6m at 80%.

If you need to go farther..... slow down or get more batteries....
Check spokes for tightness. Check often, things stretch and get loose under these stresses!

This 2810 has Torque and pulls!
I have this in a FS Hooligan with 26" rims.

I had package sent to the North East (upstate NY) package received in 5 business days.
Again, most excellent service from Methods! Thank you Methods!

Tommy L sends...... \\m//

[methods]

I am ending all sales of items that I did not personally develop.
The stuff is still for sale on my website http://www.MethTek.com but I will no longer advertise here in the forum.

It is time to end commercialism on Endless Sphere.
No more hawking Chinese shit for a quick buck

-methods

[hjns]

Hi methods,

Looking forwards to your first open-source development project. You can sign me up, whatever it is going to be.