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Electric "tough bike"

Postby vax » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:08 pm

Hello again. This is my 6th build so far, and it started in Solidworks.
The idea is pretty much same as for Stealth Bikes - rugged aluminium monocock, maximum shock travel.
However, I'm using 20'' BMX wheels to lower centre of gravity and enhanche agility.
So far I have 3 components waiting - Velectris Phantom hub motor, Kelly KBS48051 controller (48V, 20A) and Marzocchi 888RV fork.
Rear shock will be from CZ motocross bike, pressure air type, it's really light and has great adjustability.
Batteries will be ThunderSky 48V 20Ah LiFePO4, which should arrive soon.
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Re: Electric "tough bike"

Postby rojitor » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:08 am

Right now at solidworks looks just great, i like that bomber style. Will 48v be enough? Haha i got addicted to 72v :)
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Re: Electric "tough bike"

Postby vax » Wed May 16, 2012 2:27 pm

Some updates:
The battery is still on the way, latest promise is 20. of June.
The BMS has arrived, it's made here in Estonia by company called "DriveCord". It's modular, consisting of slave boards and master board and can be used in various battery systems. Actually it's also used in some electric cars and so far works great.
http://www.zev.ee/files/uploads/LiYFePO2.jpg
http://www.zev.ee/files/uploads/L2e_pic6.jpg
I'm still waitng of custom made stainless spokes from Czechs republic, it's been over a month now...
However, the front end is at my table, and I really like the look :D [already did some eyeballing sessions]
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Re: Electric "tough bike"

Postby Hillhater » Thu May 17, 2012 3:03 am

Seems too nice to be limited by a 48v, 20A controller ? :o
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Re: Electric "tough bike"

Postby miuan » Thu May 17, 2012 4:00 am

vax wrote:I'm still waitng of custom made stainless spokes from Czechs republic, it's been over a month now...


Did you order at Šroubárna Marek? They are not the fastest. What rims and spoke guage are you using?
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Re: Electric "tough bike"

Postby vax » Thu May 17, 2012 10:51 am

miuan wrote:
vax wrote:I'm still waitng of custom made stainless spokes from Czechs republic, it's been over a month now...


Did you order at Šroubárna Marek? They are not the fastest. What rims and spoke guage are you using?

Don't know exact manufacturer, I ordered them from local motorcycle shop. 2mm diameter, 128mm length and I'be using same rim as in front, that is 20'' BMX...
The guy at bicycle shop said X1 pattern is possible. I hope he's right.
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Re: Electric "tough bike"

Postby vax » Thu May 17, 2012 10:53 am

Hillhater wrote:Seems too nice to be limited by a 48v, 20A controller ? :o

It's a start. I don't have too much financial resources right now, so it have to be enough. The batteries and BMS alone are quite expensive.
Also, the motor I have (Velectris Phantom) is labeled as 250W.
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Re: Electric "tough bike"

Postby vax » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:03 pm

Finally, spokes arrived, but someone had made a mistake, there's 30 (+3 spare) spokes instead of 36.
I lied previously, didn't remember correctly - those are 3mm stainless spokes, very nice and strong.
I had to enlarge the holes to 6mm on the rim, and to drill at angle for correct spoke placement.
The spoke pattern is 2+1, because I messed up with calculations and spokes were too long for X1
But here it is:
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Re: Electric "tough bike"

Postby vax » Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:40 pm

My Extra 3 spokes arrived from Taiwan... At last. However, I had a deal with local EV company for battery delivery, and it's also dragging behind. So, still no sign of batteries (they gave me BMS boards though).
Today I made new, simpler version of my frame - now it's pretty much just two 5mm aluminium sheets, that are held together by battery box, steering column and suspension axle. I really like it this time, it's so minimalistic and easy to fabricate. All the good things must be simple :D It's missing a saddle post and rear spring/shock right now, because I ran out of clear ideas. Maybe tomorrow, with large cup of strong coffee :D
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Re: Electric "tough bike"

Postby buzzfirst » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:51 pm

I like this frame a lot. It looks like it could be built by far more people than a tube frame. Cad layout of the frame sides and a few :) more details looks doable. Keep at it for all us non tube welding guys.
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Re: Electric "tough bike"

Postby vax » Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:30 pm

Today's progress. Still minor bug fixes to do, but overall it's nearly complete.
Rear shock will be CZ motocross air shock (from 70-s). Easy to adjust height with air pressure.
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Re: Electric "tough bike"

Postby vax » Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:18 pm

Some bug fixes: smaller cutaway sections in the frame; battery covers added (GRP or carbon)
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Re: Electric "tough bike"

Postby vax » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:04 am

Time has seriously passed, but project hasn't stopped. Just delayed by battery deal.
Today, however, my batteries arrived at last.
I didn't want to make any frame construction before batteries lie on my desk. So I made cardboard mockup:
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Re: Electric "tough bike"

Postby spinningmagnets » Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:49 pm

Ahhhhh!...Cardboard-Aided-Design (CAD), one of my favorite techniques! Looks great, and even if I wanted a different frame style for myself, builds like this will document clever DIY methods that are very useful to the group.
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Re: Electric "tough bike"

Postby jpgey » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:43 pm

vax wrote:Time has seriously passed, but project hasn't stopped. Just delayed by battery deal.
Today, however, my batteries arrived at last.


Nice to see an ebike with this kind of battery :)
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Re: Electric "tough bike"

Postby vax » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:11 pm

News again. Aluminium pieces arrived from laser cutting and I spent two hours trying to produce exact bends. First ones were a bit overshoot, but those were fixed by rubber mallet beating.
Most of the bends are 10 degrees, except for saddle carrier, which has 8 degrees incline.
I thin I make all the files freely availavble to anyone once it's complete.
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Re: Electric "tough bike"

Postby pendragon8000 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:14 pm

Cool design. Like a stealth bmx ...? Looks like it won't weigh too much.
Have you done any welding yet?
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Re: Electric "tough bike"

Postby vax » Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:36 pm

Received my 48V 5A charger from Ping. Seems decent construction.
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