Nicolai Ion20 E-boxx

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Nicolai Ion20 E-boxx

Postby comradegerry » Thu May 17, 2012 4:35 am

http://www.bikeradar.com/gallery/articl ... ok-31872/1

I think this might have been posted, but it is so slick it must be worth a second glance?

Bosch drive, Pinion 8 speed and one of the best down hill frames, msut be gettting close to optimal given todays technology?

Of course it could use more power and a bigger battery but it is all about balance and this looks pretty sweet to me for the street legal EU category.

I would love to take one for a test thrashing!

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Re: Nicolai Ion20 E-boxx

Postby Miles » Thu May 17, 2012 4:58 am

:?:

I see the Bosch drive. What does the forthcoming Pinion 8 spd gearbox/motor unit have to do with this?
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Re: Nicolai Ion20 E-boxx

Postby comradegerry » Thu May 17, 2012 7:14 am

Sorry Miles, I must be getting confused, I thought I was looking at a combined unit, gearbox and motor....

I incorrectly assumed Pinion was teaming with the Bosch drive, my bad. Thank you for putting me straight, I guess that was wishful thinking on my part or vision.

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I was following the link to the frame producers pinion sell to and ended up at Nicolai. They should bolt on the 8 speed motor to the Nicolai DH frame!

http://pinion.eu/discover-pinion/pinion-e1-8/
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Re: Nicolai Ion20 E-boxx

Postby Miles » Thu May 17, 2012 7:17 am

comradegerry wrote:They should bolt on the 8 speed motor to the Nicolai DH frame!
I'm sure they will when it's available.. 8)
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Re: Nicolai Ion20 E-boxx

Postby kfong » Thu May 17, 2012 7:24 am

Another nicely designed ebike
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Re: Nicolai Ion20 E-boxx

Postby Green Machine » Fri May 18, 2012 2:34 pm

According to this link that frame does have a Bosch drive unit...so what is it...Bosch or Pinion?

http://www.nicolai.net/158-1-ION+20+E-BOXX.html#tab
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Re: Nicolai Ion20 E-boxx

Postby Miles » Fri May 18, 2012 2:55 pm

Green Machine wrote:According to this link that frame does have a Bosch drive unit...so what is it...Bosch or Pinion?

http://www.nicolai.net/158-1-ION+20+E-BOXX.html#tab
Yes, Bosch.

The Pinion 8 speed motor unit is not yet available.

Nicolai use the 18 speed Pinion gearbox on another model (non-assist).
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Re: Nicolai Ion20 E-boxx

Postby panurge » Sun May 20, 2012 6:22 am

Hi guys

Yes it's a Bosch and it's an awesome frame (as usual for Nicolai) and as Miles says, no doubt Nicolai will be one of the firsts to build a frame around the pinion-motor........in fact I think their project It's at least ready, if not yet prototyped.... 8).
For what I know pinion is mostly taking time for the battery side of the project and the possibly evolving E-bike rules for EU......

I've posted here some pics of the Nicolai with most available drive (pinion, bosch, shlumpf...) and some pics-specs of the pinionmotor at Last Eurobike: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=31195&start=30#p456973

The problem for this kind of machines, I think, besides any E-side comment, is that the overall cost still remain in the High End motorbike range...... :shock:.....however, if not for power limits, that's not so far from what these bikes are, actually.... :D

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Re: Nicolai Ion20 E-boxx

Postby spinningmagnets » Sun May 20, 2012 7:22 am

Its my understanding that the Bosch unit is available now for street-legal power-limited systems, and Nicolai has partnered with pinion to make the E1.8 drive available soon (but no hard date yet).
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