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Welding Steel to CrMo 4130

Postby nechaus » Thu May 24, 2012 9:16 pm

Hello..

Im just wondering if you can MIG weld steel to 4130 ???

I plan on welding the drop outs and some of the tube of a bike, if i cant ill simply use a nuts and bolts + jb weld
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Re: Welding Steel to CrMo 4130

Postby iamsofunny » Thu May 24, 2012 10:14 pm

Jody said he uses er70s2 to weld 4130 because it flows better
I bet s6 would also work
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Re: Welding Steel to CrMo 4130

Postby Farfle » Thu May 24, 2012 10:20 pm

ER70S2 is what I use. Works well on chromoly and mild steel.
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Re: Welding Steel to CrMo 4130

Postby nechaus » Thu May 24, 2012 10:24 pm

I just don't want to make anything weak from my welding inexperience, iv done a bit of welding but not alot.
The room im using wont have much air movement, i plan to let the weld cool as slow as possible.

I should have just got a cheap crapper steel bike to do this build but i got a new monogear mongoose. its a nice big frame

I should really look into doing some kind of welding class if they have such a thing.
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Re: Welding Steel to CrMo 4130

Postby nechaus » Thu May 24, 2012 10:25 pm

ER70S2 for tig welder?
I only have a cheap $350 mig welder
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Re: Welding Steel to CrMo 4130

Postby Farfle » Thu May 24, 2012 11:15 pm

http://www.wayfair.com/FirePower-Mig-Wi ... 49-FRP1041

The MIG wire seems to have a higher silicon content, should work just fine.
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Re: Welding Steel to CrMo 4130

Postby nechaus » Thu May 24, 2012 11:20 pm

thanks, ill give it a shot!

i think ill weld it all up and then try some small jumps with out the motor powering me.. if it seems to be fine..
ill use it
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Re: Welding Steel to CrMo 4130

Postby MidnightRider » Tue May 29, 2012 12:04 am

you may need to heat treat it after welding (Normalize it after welding) to make it all uniform strength (Normal). That may be difficult for larger parts and may distort it, which would require some kind of straightening after. Here's a link to a .pdf with some more info on the 4130 alloy...
http://www.uvm.edu/~dhitt/me124/TensileTestNotes-II.pdf
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