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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby N!co » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:44 am

speedict wrote:on the other hand we distorted one customer's battery because he didn't disconnect his battery with speedict ebike and leave for a week, even we drawn few mA .... so we will provide sleep mode or auto shutdown mode to minimize the current drawn when idling on next release (hope) ...



That would be great, it is one thing i am missing already.
Would that be possible without a hardware change??
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:50 am

N!co wrote:
speedict wrote:on the other hand we distorted one customer's battery because he didn't disconnect his battery with speedict ebike and leave for a week, even we drawn few mA .... so we will provide sleep mode or auto shutdown mode to minimize the current drawn when idling on next release (hope) ...



That would be great, it is one thing i am missing already.
Would that be possible without a hardware change??


we hope so, because the speedict ebike is lack of spare resources to monitor idle state ...
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby Erikjan » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:33 am

That function is only nice if there is a relais to swich of the power to controller when speedict shutdown.
If you dont disconnect the battery nog only the speedict use power but the controller use power to.

When the speedict shut down automatic it only take some more time to drain the battery.
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:43 am

Erikjan wrote:That function is only nice if there is a relais to swich of the power to controller when speedict shutdown.
If you dont disconnect the battery nog only the speedict use power but the controller use power to.

When the speedict shut down automatic it only take some more time to drain the battery.


agree ! but all of the technologies or features from speedict ebike will be ported to our speed controller lately, so anyway we need this features too :P
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby Erikjan » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:32 am

speedict wrote:
Erikjan wrote:Speedict works good now software don't crash after delete trip info, only the trip synchonize with the phones dont work good.
I have to try 2 or 3 times before everyting is ok. Maybe the next version app works ok on my phone.


can you do a test ? because it may caused by phone's rom, you can use your android to do file transfer with another android see if same issues as file sync with speedict ebike ... we have received similar compliant before, after rom fixed or upgrade, problem solved.


Erikjan wrote:I still like the divice. It save me a 100 dollar battery already when i connect the empty one bij mistake, after a 5km voltage alarm bieps every cel 2,9V ;) .
Hope my bms arrives soon then it is more save @ cellevel.


on the other hand we distorted one customer's battery because he didn't disconnect his battery with speedict ebike and leave for a week, even we drawn few mA .... so we will provide sleep mode or auto shutdown mode to minimize the current drawn when idling on next release (hope) ...


I do the test but on both phone is goes wrong.
Stange thing is @ the Galaxy S2 everytime it goos wrong. @ the Galaxy Gio Sometims it go wrong sometime good.
Both phones have Latest Android availeble Original from Samsung.
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:37 am

Erikjan wrote:
speedict wrote:
Erikjan wrote:Speedict works good now software don't crash after delete trip info, only the trip synchonize with the phones dont work good.
I have to try 2 or 3 times before everyting is ok. Maybe the next version app works ok on my phone.


can you do a test ? because it may caused by phone's rom, you can use your android to do file transfer with another android see if same issues as file sync with speedict ebike ... we have received similar compliant before, after rom fixed or upgrade, problem solved.


Erikjan wrote:I still like the divice. It save me a 100 dollar battery already when i connect the empty one bij mistake, after a 5km voltage alarm bieps every cel 2,9V ;) .
Hope my bms arrives soon then it is more save @ cellevel.


on the other hand we distorted one customer's battery because he didn't disconnect his battery with speedict ebike and leave for a week, even we drawn few mA .... so we will provide sleep mode or auto shutdown mode to minimize the current drawn when idling on next release (hope) ...


I do the test but on both phone is goes wrong.
Stange thing is @ the Galaxy S2 everytime it goos wrong. @ the Galaxy Gio Sometims it go wrong sometime good.
Both phones have Latest Android availeble Original from Samsung.



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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby ecologymagnet » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:50 am

When the speedict is in Stock? When is the approximate date of the new speedict, weeks, months?

Is the actual speedict discontinued?

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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:18 pm

ecologymagnet wrote:When the speedict is in Stock? When is the approximate date of the new speedict, weeks, months?

Is the actual speedict discontinued?

Thank you.


stock will be available this weekend.

we don't have solid schedule of new speedict ebike because we are waiting for our beta testers' feedbacks ... may be on Dec !
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby ecologymagnet » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:49 pm

Does the speedict support 83V (battery full)?

Can you tell us when the stock return?

Thank you.
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:53 pm

ecologymagnet wrote:Does the speedict support 83V?

Can you tell us when the stock return?

Thank you.


sorry, max. support voltage 80V !

stock will be available next week.
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby Erikjan » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:31 am

Little box in the mail today:

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Verry nice even 2 spare pins for the connecors if you detroy one no problem :)

can't wait to try.
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:57 am

Erikjan wrote:Little box in the mail today:

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Verry nice even 2 spare pins for the connecors if you detroy one no problem :)

can't wait to try.


not bad ! 4-5 days to your country ...
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby Erikjan » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:33 am

can you explain the function of the cabels? The bleu have a pcb? or only the red.

At p31 from the manual there is a black cable for port 3. and a red for port 4.
But at p38 it say use the red cable for port 3.

I dont have recieved the black and i can't find it at the site.
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby N!co » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:40 am

@ page 7 of the user guide (not the android client guide) blue is throttle at port 2, and red is throttle input to controller at port 4.

Edit: that would be if you want to connect it for legal mode 2.

What i want is run it in legal mode (2) and be able to switch with the software to throttle only full speed mode and back. Is that possible?
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:54 am

Erikjan wrote:can you explain the function of the cabels? The bleu have a pcb? or only the red.

At p31 from the manual there is a black cable for port 3. and a red for port 4.
But at p38 it say use the red cable for port 3.

I dont have recieved the black and i can't find it at the site.


both red and blue has circuit board built-in, the blue cable is for throttle input just have voltage divider circuit to lower the throttle input 5v for mcu measurement, and the red cable is mainly for throttle output signal generate from pwm signal to dc ~5v .... because of our initial design not for these signal override, sorry you guys need additional cables :(

btw, black cable also for throttle out but for throttle mode only, unless you need to run throttle mode otherwise black cable is not need.
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby N!co » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:58 am

But is this in any way possible:

What i want is run it in legal mode (2) and be able to switch with the software to throttle only full speed mode and back. Is that possible?
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:16 am

N!co wrote:But is this in any way possible:

What i want is run it in legal mode (2) and be able to switch with the software to throttle only full speed mode and back. Is that possible?


throttle only full speed ? does it mean without speed govern ? be careful not to mix up with throttle mode, in our throttle mode it is mean if you want to throttle over ride while keep the temperature sensor !
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby Erikjan » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:50 pm

Wat Nico want is legalmode 2. And a option in the software That disable te pas sensor and the speedlimit only wit à button at the Phone and no need to change cables. I want that to.

When you see police you van change to legal, When police gone we can switch back.


Tanks for explain the cables now i understand the function.

Tomorrow i go connect them :)
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:20 am

Erikjan wrote:Wat Nico want is legalmode 2. And a option in the software That disable te pas sensor and the speedlimit only wit à button at the Phone and no need to change cables. I want that to.

When you see police you van change to legal, When police gone we can switch back.


Tanks for explain the cables now i understand the function.

Tomorrow i go connect them :)



of course we considered this situation, yes you can enable or disable any governor at any time ...

1. on road legal 2 mode, you can disable the PAS detection on "Motor start power" option, change from "6 km/h" to "Start Power" can release the pas detection restriction

2. on throttle type, you can change "speed throttle" (e.g. max speed set to 25km) to "current throttle" or torque mode so that you can avoid any speed signal over-ride, or even disable it

3. finally the top level of speed limitation - governor settings, on / off speed limit setting can cancel speed limitation


on previous firmware we have button called "panic button" a one touch button to enable or disable any governor settings ....
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby Erikjan » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:31 am

Thanks for explain this sounds verry good.
This evening i finally have some time to play with the throttle cabeles and pas sensor :)

i like the speedict more and more.
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:54 am

Erikjan wrote:Thanks for explain this sounds verry good.
This evening i finally have some time to play with the throttle cabeles and pas sensor :)

i like the speedict more and more.


then you will very excite about our later product(s) ...

by the way i just put you on our beta tester list, please keep sending me any feedback and comments :D
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby evb » Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:42 pm

Hi Danny!
I guess somebody will be interesting to use voice mode in speedict, for example
when speed is equal 40 kmph or a battery gave 8Ah the app plays selected audio file.
If using BT handsfree no need to look screen always, no worries with sun and more safe driving.
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:48 pm

evb wrote:Hi Danny!
I guess somebody will be interesting to use voice mode in speedict, for example
when speed is equal 40 kmph or a battery gave 8Ah the app plays selected audio file.
If using BT handsfree no need to look screen always, no worries with sun and more safe driving.


already on our feature list, internally tested this features, queuing to launch ....
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby N!co » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:20 pm

speedict wrote:
Erikjan wrote:Wat Nico want is legalmode 2. And a option in the software That disable te pas sensor and the speedlimit only wit à button at the Phone and no need to change cables. I want that to.

When you see police you van change to legal, When police gone we can switch back.


Tanks for explain the cables now i understand the function.

Tomorrow i go connect them :)



of course we considered this situation, yes you can enable or disable any governor at any time ...

1. on road legal 2 mode, you can disable the PAS detection on "Motor start power" option, change from "6 km/h" to "Start Power" can release the pas detection restriction

2. on throttle type, you can change "speed throttle" (e.g. max speed set to 25km) to "current throttle" or torque mode so that you can avoid any speed signal over-ride, or even disable it

3. finally the top level of speed limitation - governor settings, on / off speed limit setting can cancel speed limitation


on previous firmware we have button called "panic button" a one touch button to enable or disable any governor settings ....


To switch with one button (also from live view) from legal to 'no pas & throttle to max. speed' would be even better.
Why did you take out the 'panic button'?
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Re: Speedict Ebike - Anybody seen/tried this?

Postby speedict » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:25 pm

N!co wrote:Why did you take out the 'panic button'?


unless we have good solution to call out this features, don't want to be just use button ...
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