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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby Farfle » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:00 am

Thanks much, 4 turn wye it is. Im starting winding, so will see how many paralleled strands I can cram in this motor.
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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby Farfle » Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:01 pm

After attempting to wind for 6 hours, and actually winding for 2 hours, I am 1/6 done. SOOO much faster than the dual pie.
also, my method on turning a 400 foot spool into a 15 paralell strand.


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The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby Biff » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:29 pm

Looking Good. What paper are you using? Have you fire-tested it? I like to hold a lighter up to a sample and see what it does. All the paper I have used barely supports fire once started, and usually has some sort of melty-plastic type drops.

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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby Farfle » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:25 pm

its calandered 410 nomex I got from bigmoose, which has been pretty impervious to anything so far.
The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby Farfle » Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:46 pm

19 hours in, im getting better at this:
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The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby AussieJester » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:01 pm

Good stuff Farfle makes my hands quiver just looking at it, used twin stand on my turnigy ca100 rewind, leather glove on one hand puling the wire taught, I don't look forward to future rewind that's for sure...I like the method you have used to terminate the ends of wires, looking sharp'.

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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby Farfle » Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:58 pm

Haha, thanks mate. Turns out that the stator is now too wide to fit in the can, end turns are bigger than I figured. So I am making some shims that will space the can out further. Going to be a tight squeeze into the bike now.
The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


Team Farfle blog!! http://www.farfleselectrics.blogspot.com
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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby nechaus » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:49 pm

very very nice,
its inspiring me to build a race bike, and actually spend the time and make something that looks reasonable and rides well

damm im keen to see some videos of this thing running...


Something about your bike design that i just love... i like the color to
100% respect for doing the windings yourself, you did such a good job.
Id feel like i would need to do a week of fingering buckets of sand to toughen up my fingers

So what will the final weight be of the bike loaded up ? how much does the motor weigh?
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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby nechaus » Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:11 am

Are you going to use pedals as well ? haha
is it an ebike or an emotorbike
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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby Farfle » Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:18 pm

nechaus wrote:very very nice,
its inspiring me to build a race bike, and actually spend the time and make something that looks reasonable and rides well

damm im keen to see some videos of this thing running...


Something about your bike design that i just love... i like the color to
100% respect for doing the windings yourself, you did such a good job.
Id feel like i would need to do a week of fingering buckets of sand to toughen up my fingers

So what will the final weight be of the bike loaded up ? how much does the motor weigh?


Thanks man not sure about the all up weight, should be somewhere around 110 pounds, as for the motor, it's no lightweight right now it's about 30 pounds, but doesn't have phase wires or hall sensors/wires yet
The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


Team Farfle blog!! http://www.farfleselectrics.blogspot.com
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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby Farfle » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:18 pm

here's some pics on a somewhat pessimistic scale.

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The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby neptronix » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:28 pm

That thing is going to rip. :shock: can't wait for video.
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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby Farfle » Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:14 am

I got the last set of assembly screws in place. There's thirty two 3 mm screws that hold the can halves onto the magnet rings, and the magnet rings together. Murphy must not have been watching though, because we didn't break a single 2.5mm bit, or that itty bitty little tap, or have the bit wander and drill thru a magnet, or anything else that could have gone wrong. all thats left to do is wire the halls, and the phase wires, and it will be ready. now just have to wait for the laser cutting shop to get the rear sprocket back to me, and will be rollable under power!
The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


Team Farfle blog!! http://www.farfleselectrics.blogspot.com
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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby Farfle » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:03 am

all wired up and ready to go, 3 strands of 6 awg out the axle and halls are all wired up. All there is left to do is modify my motor assembly tool, and get the ventilation going, but hopefully will get it assembled today.

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The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


Team Farfle blog!! http://www.farfleselectrics.blogspot.com
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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby dbaker » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:05 pm

Beautiful work :mrgreen:
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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby Farfle » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:05 pm

IIIT LIVES!!! kinda... in fits and starts...

The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


Team Farfle blog!! http://www.farfleselectrics.blogspot.com
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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby Miles » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:10 pm

Well done! Looking forward to seeing it spin.
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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby hydro-one » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:12 am

So , have you got it on yet???? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby Farfle » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:55 am

Working on it. Motor mounts are yet to be made, and I have no idea when the sprockets and chain are going to show up.
The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


Team Farfle blog!! http://www.farfleselectrics.blogspot.com
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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby Kingfish » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:47 pm

I like the forced perspective - it's larger than life :twisted:

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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby nechaus » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:58 pm

its going to be brutal
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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby Farfle » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:15 pm

Hehe at 33 kv it's going to make almost 50FT/lb at the shaft
The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


Team Farfle blog!! http://www.farfleselectrics.blogspot.com
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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby nechaus » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:04 pm

:o
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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby Farfle » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:33 am

And what's more awesome, at 250A, the windings will be making only 840 watts of heat.
The race bike:
24s5p 50c nano tech
Badass custom mofo outrunner 205x177mm 26kv
Peak power in : 318A at 91v
Peak power out: 24 Hp and 151ft/lb

Build to last...
"It will be assaulted by the elements, It will be ravaged by time and it will be destroyed by the user. BUT, if you Stick to the little rules: K.I.S.S., Overbuild everything, and test, review, revise, repeat. It will last"


Team Farfle blog!! http://www.farfleselectrics.blogspot.com
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Re: Farfle joins the MENS club

Postby nicobie » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:57 pm

50 ft/lbs!

Now I see why you need the Sevcon for fine control.
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