Custom 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 gauge spokes and Handbuilt Wheels

[7lions]

I just failed the stock 20" rim provided with an HS35. I knew it was going to go, but didn't expect it this soon (around 200 miles). I'd like to fix this just once, so I'd love to get your recommendation on rim and spokes to lace up in a radial pattern. 12ga are unfortunately necessary, as the holes in the flanges are HUGE. I'm not opposed to going moped/DOT, but I do need to keep the total diameter under 20".

[pchen92]

Hi,

I have sent you 2 mails but still hasn't got any answer.
I received your spokes a couple weeks ago. They look really strong and they are pretty good quality but I received the wrong size

I ordered 141mm and just after I order, I notice the rim I was looking for was out of stock so I change for 137mm. You said it was ok and you have changed the order.
But I received too long spokes... Looks like they are 143mm or so.

[pchen92]

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[johnrobholmes]

Paul,

email your way. Apolgies for the latent response, I'm still really buried from my trip and things aren't getting much better by the day

7lions,

12ga spokes laced into a 16" moped rim would be my personal choice. You could get away with one cross like this.

[GCinDC]

JRH, can you define spoke length?

is it measured from thread end to center of butt end, as in:

[johnrobholmes]

I just hook them over a ruler, which is the way I have heard from all other bicycle mechanics. From the inside of the elbow on the head. This is also how the spokes come measured from Sapim. Hook them over a ruler and it is dead nuts what they are labeled. It doesn't make more than a mm difference, not enough to throw a build off unless the spokes are already way off.

Spokecalc probably measures from the center of the spoke head, but I've never noticed a difference enough to catch my attention.

[voicecoils]

Spoke rulers make measuring slightly faster, but will give a similar result to the way JRH describes:



Spoke is measured from the inside of the bend, see another ruler here:

[johnrobholmes]

I see the zero starts at the bend of the spoke on those rulers too, so hooking it over a ruler seems acceptable.

[Mad]

Hi John,

Send you a PM but didn't get answer

Hi,

I just bought a coupple of this rims for my build
http://www.ebay.com/itm/280715200570?ss ... _500wt_927
Rear wheel is for Cromotor and front for DMR Revolver hub
I'm interested in spokes and nipples, in black if possible
Do you know the rim's exactely size or you need me to tell you (I must ask for them)?
Which spoke gauge do you recmmend? Is for DH frame (8" rear travel and 170mm front travel)

Thanks

I'll really appreciate your help
Thanks

[ROG130]

how much for 2 sets
40 x 12g 165mm long
and a set of
40 x 11g 165mm long
and posted to united kingdom thanks roger

[johnrobholmes]

My site calculates all the costs, please use it for me.


I have a stack of PMs here and have been slammed with work. Orders for spokes are going out as normal, but I don't have the time for helping on this forum at the moment. My apologies! Once I get caught back up on orders I will do my best to help out here again, but until then I won't be around much and I can't calculate spoke lengths for you. It just takes more time than I have right now. I suggest using the calculator on Ebike.ca 's website, it works extremely well.


Thanks for the interest, I'll try to be back around as soon as possible!

[johnrobholmes]

A marathon week of lacing in my spare time. Halfway through the wheels needing lacing!

[GCinDC]

moonshine, far right? woohoo! enjoy that! nice work, john.

[johnrobholmes]

Yep! that cromotor with large marge is a svelt 26lb 12 ounces. By far my favorite combo I have laced, just a really nice wheel and I hope Moonshine enjoys it!

[moonshine]

Jrh,

DUDE. I'm gonna lose it when it arrives at my door!!! I'm so beyond amped right now!!!! I just got my 18fet controller back from Lyen too! I'll have to mess around with the settings so I don't kill myself. That wheel build looks ridiculous!!! It's gonna put my 5404 with its cheap rim to shame!!!! The wheel should also fit nicely in my new swingarm(hopefully). All around EXTREMELY satisfied with the build and I don't even have it yet!!!! Thanks john! You are AWESOME.

-pat

[john7700]

Just a shout out and thank you to JRH for some great service on a quality product. Ordered on a Thur. afternoon, tracking number issued on Fri. morning and in my grubby little hands within 5 business days! Quality product and fast service would have me order from Holmes Hobby again with confidence

[johnrobholmes]

Thanks John!

After the next wheelset I have in build I am taking a break from wheels for a few months. I am title sponsoring the Nationals Rock Crawling event in September that needs a lot of attention, and I need to build some wheels for myself!


We will still keep our spoke machine running as normal. Thanks for the orders!

[Seriousknot]

Hey John, I need a couple of replacement spokes, I managed to snap one off right at the start of the threads, I cant remember the length. I was wondering if you kept a record of the specs?

[johnrobholmes]

Send me an email with your name/ and or order number or what wheel build it was and we can figure it out.

[Emoto]

Hi John
I need some alloy 17"x140 rims, and am considering the pro wheel alloy 17"x140 model for drz 125/klx125, what is the difference in weight to a moped alloy 17"x140.
Are there any members who have used the pro wheel and what is the rim weight, cant find the answer.

EDIT: finally found the answer 2lb rim only.

[damcard]

I'll post here incase others are interested. I am rebuilding an old electric stingray for the boy. It has a 20", 4" wide rear tire. I am going to use my 5404 so I want a beefier wheel. I got a 110/70 16" kenda cruiser front tire. A 2.5" x 16" rim. It's perfect. I am looking for spokes and nipples now. The rim spoke holes are .280". Will your oversized nipples work? Do you know if 11g or even 10g spokes will fit in the 5404? Thanks, -Damcard

[damcard]

John informed me via email that his oversized nipples will fit the .280" diameter holes in my rim. -Damcard

[oatnet]

John informed me via email that his oversized nipples will fit the .280" diameter holes in my rim.

Wow, I've seen pictures of John, but he had a shirt on so I thought his nipples were normal-sized.

[Degull]

John informed me via email that his oversized nipples will fit the .280" diameter holes in my rim.

Wow, I've seen pictures of John, but he had a shirt on so I thought his nipples were normal-sized.

I think if you work John's nipples real gentle with your fingers, they will form into whatever size you desire.

[damcard]

Ah ha ha ha. I ordered my spokes.