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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    Testing the new stator this week. So far, no issues. Looks like housing can accommodate the extra 3mm wide stator teeth. Doesn't appear to be any interference. Did notice this stator is slower off the mark, but seems to have a higher top speed. Probably due to wire diameter size and number...
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    Your right. I think of the stator teeth as electro magnets. I was afraid I may have to add something a little more solid between the side covers and the motor housing. I'll investigate it further. Cheers.
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    I finally found a replacement Chinese stator. Its magnets are 3mm wider than the original, but the remaining dimensions are a match. Discovered my original stator had two different size bearings. New stator uses two identical 6202-2RS bearings. Shipping was the usual 1.5 month wait, but the...
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    That's for certain. Are there any companies that will fabricate a stator to order?
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    Amberwolf, I spoke to the representative of that e-bike kit on e-Bay (earlier post). Aside from some communication challenges, it doesn't look like they know much about the stator inside the motor. I don't think I want to buy the kit, only to find the stator doesn't fit my needs. The search...
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    Amberwolf, You weren't kidding about the stator variations. Most of the stators I've seen, either have magnets too large (greater than my 28mm), wrong bearing sizes (mine is a 6202-2RS), wrong stator diameter (my stator is 198mm), or even an incompatible bike frame dropout (my dropout is...
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    Thanks amberwolf. I'll look into it. Had purchased a QS motor this morning, but had to cancel the order. Found out the QS motor required a 200mm dropout. Mine is 155mm. Still sucks to be me :wink:
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    Balmorhea, The X-treme XB-600 scooter is technically a power assisted bicycle. The pedals are required to meet the e-bike requirements. Personally, the pedals are a bit of a nuisance, but they're there to keep the authorities happy. :wink:
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    Thanks again Amberwolf. Incidentally, I narrowed the short down to the yellow phase wire windings (disconnected the phase wires from one another). It doesn't help me repair the motor, but it's good for curiosity sake :wink:
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    It's a 'no go' on having a local company rewind the motor. Apparently, it's too labour intensive to be cost effective. I did price out a prime candidate replacement motor with QS Motors. Unfortunately: 1) this model isn't equipped with a drum brake 2) the disc brake is on the right side vs...
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    amberwolf, Can these hub motors be rewound by hand, or does it require specialized equipment? If it can be done by hand, do you know of any online instructional videos or websites, showing the correct procedure (and materials). I've currently priced out a QS motor (about $500 CDN with...
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    I think at this point, it's best to either have new windings installed (I'll have an estimate shortly), or replace the motor with a compatible aftermarket unit. I'll keep you posted. Still sucks to be me :wink:
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    When the motor was on the bike, I shorted each of the phase wires together. Doesn't the heavy cogging mean the coil is intact? Wouldn't there be little or no cogging, if the windings were heavily damaged? Regarding my crazy idea: I'm assuming only one of the phase wires is shorting to the...
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    Thanks amberwolf. I cleaned the stator with mineral spirits (checked some cleaning suggestions at another site). Before I used the mineral spirits, I tested it on a small section. Didn't soften or dissolve the winding varnish. Used the multimeter to verify. Though I don't have a before...
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    Here are some current pictures of the stator.
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    I cleaned the stator. Much easier to see the windings. Surprisingly, still can't find the short to the stator. Is it possible the windings are shorting to the stator internally, rather than on the surface?
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    Funny you should mention QSMotors. I spoke to them two days ago. Gave me a quote for a12inch 1500W 205 V3 Hub Motor: USD195.00. Shipping Cost: USD155.00. I'll probably try your suggestion first (attempting to isolate the short). If it doesn't pan out, QSMotors is an option. Do you know of...
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    Unfortunately, the short is in the windings. Sucks to be me. Let me know what you think about an after market motor. Might be viable solution. Cheers.
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    Thanks amberwolf. Sorry about omitting the info about the trimmed phase wires. If I can't find the short (over the stator lip), do you think it's worth it to have a local electric company find the short? What do you think about motor replacement? Are there any aftermarket motors that will...
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    Thanks amberwolf . You made some very good suggestions. I'll post some pictures shortly. I had already cut the phase wires back to about two inches away from the windings. I was hoping the short was in the phase wires near the windings, but I can't seem to spot it visually. Is it possible...
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    XB-600 hub motor phase wires shorting to axle/case

    hi all, I have an XB-600 scooter running @72V and Lyen Mark II controller. I have a problem with my motor. Pulled the motor out of the bike (opened the motor) to find the insulation on the yellow phase wire (inside the motor adjacent to the windings) had cracked. I shrink wrapped new...
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    X-treme XB-600 scooter hub motor

    markz, I'll post here anything I learn. Cheers.
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    X-treme XB-600 scooter hub motor

    Thanks Markz, This is the e-scooter from V is for Voltage (motor rewiring). I noticed Alliexpress sells motor stators. Would a new stator (one that fits the XB-600 hub) be an option?
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    X-treme XB-600 scooter hub motor

    Looks like my X-treme XB-600 hub motor may have finally died. I'm not getting continuity between the green phase wire and the other two phase wires. Though, I haven't opened up the motor yet, the break is either in the green phase wire leading to the motor windings, or the motor windings...
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    X-treme XB-600 scooter rear brakes

    Thanks Voltron, I'll keep that in mind for the future. Cheers.
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