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    50cc Scooter conversion

    Well... I thought I should make a quick update. Scoot-ee has now completed more than 500km since going back on the road after the conversion to electric. Nothing major to report (except the previous battery re-configuration work). A video can be found here : https://youtu.be/4QgF20aDRrw This...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    Wow ! Thanks MJSfoto1956 !! That's praise indeed. I'm hoping to put up a link to a YouTube video I've made. I'll try and do that a wee bit later on today or tomorrow. Thanks again.
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    So, my original Panasonic 18650 cells, as a 20S4P pack in a 20 cells long x 4 cells wide configuration were, it transpired, simply too awkward a shape to remove and re-insert easily. I designed them this way so that the two packs would lie alongside each other just forward and above the motor...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    Hi SloCo, I think eee291 had grasped my poor explanations in the manner I meant to express them - I most definitely am not thinking of re-fitting a CVT arrangement, just a belt and pulley arrangement a la Zero... but, like I say, with this motor I found I was very limited. Agreed with the...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    Wow ! :O So this is an EV grin ! I'm still picking the flies out of my teeth (yeuch) ! I'm not quite sure where to start. I realise this project was only for a 50cc scooter and by many standards it was pretty simply / basic but I am blown away - not by my work but rather by the result; quiet...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    Having experienced the results of my NOT having done some math (I guess, at the outset, I had just 'hoped' all would be well because it was the simplest solution - not to mention that the conversion itself seemed pretty daunting and I was impatient to start. D'Oh !! ) and having just recently...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    After 'playing about' with the Volt / Amp meter it was time to re-visit the motor 'stutter' and the un-modified clutch. I grabbed my hand-held tacho (nothing special here, 15-oddEuro on Amazon), removed the chain between front / rear sprockets and applied a little reflective tape the motor...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    At the outset I decided it would be really handy to be able to see battery voltage and motor / controller current primarily for test purposes but also whilst riding. However, because I hadn't found a relatively in-expensive meter and because it was simpler at the time and because I really had no...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    Thanks John in CR, Great idea. I THINK there will be sufficient cooling BUT... point well made and taken onboard !! Having very little experience as to how this el-cheapo controller will behave - in respect to both heat and performance/ridability and not wishing to get 'side-tracked', at this...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    On the home straight now ! Just a bunch of wires (all with plugs / sockets on) to connect to the scoot and we're pretty much ready for a dry test ! [1] Throttle / Twistgrip It was day 2 or 3, I think, when I got round to disconnecting the twist grip cable from both the carburettor and throttle...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    This was some fun ! I took some measurements and started designing (SketchUp, again) a replacement fuel filler neck & cap some weeks ago. First I thought I'd use the same Anderson connector as was on the batteries I intended to build (and have since completed). I can't, right now, remember why...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    This week I've been busy with the last major part of the conversion: siting the controller and associated components. The original ICE kit has been removed. The original wiring has been serviced / repaired / updated to remove no-longer required cabling and modified to re-task cabling to suit the...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    With most of the 'boring' stuff out of the way I started off trying to work out where to site the batteries I would be making. Once the site was chosen I'd have a better idea as to final available / required dimensions. I had already played about with weights etc and pre-set any pre-requirements...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    These are to protect the internals form dirt, grit and water ingress as far as practically possible. In the case of my scoot, I have various cover / blank plates to design and fit : [1] Oil pump blanks (I need to design one with a cable (motor) pass-through slot) [2] Starter motor blank [3]...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    I thought that before I start the main / primary EV electrics I should 'tidy up' a little bit first. To be fair, at this precise time, given that I have serious doubts as to the effectiveness (and, therefore, finality) of the scoots gearing, I have decided to carry out the most basic of tunnel /...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    Next came the original / as-fitted electrics and their sorting out and tidying up. Once again, like the strip down, this was pretty straight forward. Unfortunately, the Chinese used a strip, twist, solder and tape method of making joints within the wiring loom. They also had multiple earth /...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    Hi eee291, I just LOVE the look of those JetForce scooters ! I guess they're both using Revolt motors - neat. I was too much of a cheapskate and limited myself to 200Euro of 3Kw BLDC. Look very similar in size, though the Revolts have (at least) double the power at the same voltage (I've gone...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    An update re: my (rather hopeful?) gearing... I'm not sure this will work (given the gearing) but I have to start someplace ! I figure that it will be easier if I can the existing rear variator / clutch assembly (in some modified manner) to pass the drive through the gearbox to the rear wheel...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    Time for an update ! I've made some progress with the motor : The motor controller arrived !! Yaaay !!! Initially, I removed the cylinder head. Once that was done, the swingarm was next. I found it easier to leave the swingarm attached to the scoot for the major kit removal as it helped support...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    Hi Dui, ni shuo de dui, Unfortunately the max power allowed in France is 3Kw / 4.5Hp and I am trying to keep the scoot as close to original / 'in spec' as possible for minimum re-approval hassle. Additionally... it is only for a 15 - 16 year old so 50Kmh would be acceptable, 60Kmh would be (for...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    Hi Bikegirl, Thanks. Sounds even more interesting too ! Here's where I am at the moment; stripped down and ready for some electric kit ! <EDIT> I forgot : I decided (just before the last post :oops: ) to go for a 5A unit - simply because I was trying to keep costs down ! To be fair, a 10A...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    eee291, Thanks for that. Like I say, sounds super interesting. Hope you keep us informed of progress - I'll look forward to that. Good luck.
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    SlowCo, Thanks for the encouragement, I'll be back with a load of questions I'm sure. ...and more pics.
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    ee291 I was thinking about your Derbi Senda :mrgreen: Please excuse my questions : Super interesed and rather envious; I wish I'd started with a non-scoot although it is (for me) a very interesting project and not too expensive to start-off with. Is it pretty simple to register a converted...
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    50cc Scooter conversion

    Hi SlowCo. Thanks for your message. I'm with you re: the CVT belt drive. I 'm leaning towards a chain / sprocket arrangement and am currently thinking of a 17:11 sprocket set-up; the 17 up front, on the motor, and the 11 back aft. I think this should allow a 5000rpm mid-mount motor to drive the...
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