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    E-bikes are arguably worse than electric cars

    And it's all 'horses for courses'. I live 500m above my work and the most direct 10km route has serious 15 to 30% ramps on very poor surfaces... I dream of going this way but I need lower gears... my current one to one gear ratio, 500w motor and work ethic struggle at 20%. The next most direct...
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    Anyone know about/tried TOSEVEN Mid Drive?

    Sadly not interchangeable...
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    Anyone know about/tried TOSEVEN Mid Drive?

    I've been impressed with the power for the size and weight of the motor. It is easily a match for all motors I've used, and it leaves my TSDZ2 for dust. And it has helped me up hills to KoM status for e-bikes... and we have some pretty big hub-drives calling themselves e-bikes here. It is a...
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    Anyone know about/tried TOSEVEN Mid Drive?

    I've got the hardware to flash and the files but I haven't done it yet... I'm about to be seperated from my bike for 10 days so will flash when I get back. As a digital immigrant I find it all a bit bewildering so I like to have a clear path of time and space to do things like this.
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    Anyone know about/tried TOSEVEN Mid Drive?

    My sketchy understanding is that it is not. Prepared to be wrong here but I was not game to try it from some things I've read. Be rally sad if it is because I have just cut up a wiring loom to directly feed the power from the battery. But I will see if I can find an answer
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    Anyone know about/tried TOSEVEN Mid Drive?

    The settings I'm happy-ish with at the moment are based on Olek/Alex's with a bit of me thrown in "Speed and Power" Speed - What-ever Power - Level 1 = 20%, 2 = 40%, 3 = 60%, 4 = 80% and 5 = 100% "Controller" Eco max 8amps City max 15amps Sport max 19amps "PAS" Type - Low Startup Count - 1...
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    Anyone know about/tried TOSEVEN Mid Drive?

    I've had a DM02 for about 10 days now, Tweaked the settings to suit me and I like this motor a lot. In the 10 days I've done 230kms and climbed over 3500m. Now that I am familiar with the settings menu, I have programmed 'City' mode to max at 15 amps and it is sufficient for all my climbing so...
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    Anyone know about/tried TOSEVEN Mid Drive?

    When I get it I'll start recording my commutes on Strava and collate and compare experiences with other motors I've tried... I'll repeat myself often here, in the High Voltage discorse feed and in Pedelecs. Once I've put out the kind of information I'd like to see to reassure myself, I'll crawl...
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    Anyone know about/tried TOSEVEN Mid Drive?

    Probably best to watch the High Voltage Videos >, If by mountains your talking about sustained 5% to 8 % gradients over several kilometers, I reckon it probably would. If you're talking 15% to 25% gradients, probably not.
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    Anyone know about/tried TOSEVEN Mid Drive?

    I was quoted US$316 for the motor and US$98 for postage, so AU$663 for the 68mm - 73mm complete motor kit with display, cranks, chain ring etc. If you get into the High Voltage Electric Light Vehicle Channel's Discord threads for DM01 or DM02 motors you'll find Olek. He seems to be keeping an...
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    Anyone know about/tried TOSEVEN Mid Drive?

    I hear you with there's been nothing on the market to beat the TSDZ2 until now, with the photon and DM02... I was about to buy a photon then the DMo2 caught my eye and was less pain on my aging hip pocket nerve. I also agree with your humble opinion, build it well, keep it open and provide...
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    Anyone know about/tried TOSEVEN Mid Drive?

    Curious about the ToSeven offerings after having high hopes- then being woefully dissappointed with the TSDZ2, I joined the Discord thread of High Voltage Electric Light Vehicle channel from YouTube and got in touch with Alex/Olek. Alex is on the ToSeven payroll and a bit of a fixer / corrector...
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    CYC PHOTON

    Gosh, after reading the to and fro of the Photon, I just hopped back on the fence.
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    CYC PHOTON

    Thanks for the intro to TOSEVEN. I wrote to Ben @ Cap Rouge, an Australian e-bike battery and conversion kit retailer, with links to these videos, (and who I bought my TSDZ2 from) and low and behold, he is getting a few motors and gave me a reasonable price offer on the 48v/500w version for...
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    CYC PHOTON

    All good points. I have a hub drive that works and is reliable but I love the torque sensing of the TSDZ2 and the ride feel and the easy switching between street and off-road mode with the OSF. As I have a reliable motor for my commuting I'll watch this thread and also the ToSeven reviews.
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    CYC PHOTON

    All good points... I have a hub drive, bafang-ish, and it gets me from A to B reliably but yes, I want the torque sensor, I love the waay the TSDZ2 feels While pocket depth is an issue, time is a greater one, especially as I need to teach myself as I go, so the question is more what would you...
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    CYC PHOTON

    A general question to the CYC Photon community. My scenerio - I have a couple of TSDZ2s with various issues and two other motors I bought for AU$100, one with a busted sprag clutch and the other with a mashed main gear. So in theory I have at least one good TSDZ2 motor after Xn hours of...
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    Help Me Decide Which Mid Drive Kit To Buy.

    Since you've gone for the TSDZ2, a word of warning for hills... low gears highish (C 80 - 85) cadence. If you get much above C90 the motor assistance fades. As one reviewer of e-bike motors said, electric motors are designed to spin, if you use high gears, and low cadence the energy that would...
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    Tsdz2 firmware open source adapted to vlcd5, vlcd6 and xh18

    :bigthumb: Gongrats Everyone must start once and bite the bullit. Now I need the time to do the heat pads and temp sensor. When I've got the motors apart I'm interested to compare the colour of faulty motor (that has only done about 10 kilometers MAX) and the motor that replaced it and has...
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    Tsdz2 firmware open source adapted to vlcd5, vlcd6 and xh18

    I've had trouble and got it sorted. The sad truth for us non IT types is, that the instructions provided are pretty good but when you don't know, well, you don't know. So you need to load four things into C:/ drive, all are hyperlinked in the wiki. 1) The STLink V2 programmer 2) SDCC Compiler 3)...
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    Tsdz2 firmware open source adapted to vlcd5, vlcd6 and xh18

    I don't use a throttle on any of my kits, it takes too much space on the valuable real-estate of my handlebars and I like to use my legs so I pay little attention to the 200w throttle rules.
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    Tsdz2 firmware open source adapted to vlcd5, vlcd6 and xh18

    Road and therefore e-bike legislation is state based in Australia but I think each state has adopted the EU legislation - the Aus governments are way too lazy to reinvent the wheel... When I was checking 12 months ago, it was still the 2011 version of EU legislation that was referred to in...
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    Tsdz2 firmware open source adapted to vlcd5, vlcd6 and xh18

    BS EN 15194:2017 describes Maximum continuous rated Power is measured (under specific conditions) if the temperature vary under 2 Kelvin (2°C) per hour (Thermal equilibrium). Maximum Power and Peak Power are not mentioned, so for a short time (an hour?) you can accept a rising temperature with...
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    Tsdz2 firmware open source adapted to vlcd5, vlcd6 and xh18

    Ok, in reference to the Letter of the Law vs the Spirit of the Law discussion between Elinx and jgs1- This is a pet hobbyhorse of mine- I've just completed the Coachhouse Drive and Woodland Way segment, 2.8kms @ avg 10% with >20% final ramp on my latest Hub build... 48v with 30peak Amps...
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    Tsdz2 firmware open source adapted to vlcd5, vlcd6 and xh18

    I was curious about the range and effectiveness of different motors after my first 48v 500w (22 peak amp controller) build. I went way over street legal specs because 20 years ago I bought a legal Aprilia Enjoy and it was not cut out for my commute... 14kms up 500ms. After reading these threads...
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