footloose
10 kW
This spring I built a second electric bike, designed mostly to deal with the fairly extreme hills where I live.
Design is not cutting edge at all – the bike isn’t powered with recycled phaser cannon batteries or anything like that.
Instead I studied ES until I had a pretty good idea about a couple of tried-and-true build approaches, figured which one would work best for my need, then I used that recipe.
This post is basically a report on real-world testing of the bike, intended to help any other newbies who are interested in that particular setup.
Bike is basically:
- 1980s Trek mountain bike frame, 26” wheels
- MAC 10T motor
- 48v 12.6 Amp hour Samsung NCM battery pack
- 9 FET 3077 controller
- CA V2.5
Bought all but the bike from Cellman (EM3ev).
Bike turned out to be dynamite, copes with hills like a champ, tops out >30mph, hauls reasonable amount of groceries with no sweat.
Until this weekend, I mostly rode it on short trips around home turf.
This weekend I had a chance to do a real test. Thanks to my wife attending a conference at Squaw Valley (in the Sierra Nevada mountains, near Lake Tahoe) I had a free room and a couple of free days to ride. I went along, and brought the bike.
'Test track’ was the mostly flat, nicely paved bike path that runs along the Truckee river and west shore of Tahoe, for about 20 miles.
Beautiful ride, do it if you ever get the chance.
Got lucky and had beautiful weather too.
I divided the test ride into three segments: conservative riding, aggressive riding, and flat out riding.
Segment 1 was the initial ride from start-point to end-of-trail. Since I didn’t want to end up with a flat battery 20 miles from the hotel, I was conservative with power heading out. Basically, tried to keep the power to ‘EU / AU legal’ level of <250W. Here was a pleasant surprise: even when I was just sipping power (like <100W), the electrics gave a nice steady power boost, felt like I was riding with wind at my back. At 250W, plenty of power and speed on the flats. I goosed it now and then for laughs (max ~1500W) or when going uphill, but was pretty moderate. At the end of 20 miles, here are the numbers:
Distance: 17.96 miles
Consumed: 3.047Ah of power (9.4 Wh/mile)
Average speed: 11.1 mph
Max speed: 23.5 mph
Max amps: 30.01
Battery was still theoretically at ~75% of capacity.
Segment 2 was the return ride. I didn’t try to conserve power at all. Instead I went as fast as I safely could on bike path, and didn’t pedal much. Philosophically, it was “home James, and don’t spare the horses”. For the return trip, here are the numbers:
Distance: 17.92
Consumed: 5.507 Ah of power (15.5 Wh/mile)
Average speed: 15 mph
Max speed: 28 mph
Max amps: 33.13
Battery was still theoretically at ~30% of capacity.
I was pretty surprised that I’d done 38 miles and still had significant battery remaining. So I went on to Segment 3 – "just burn through the power".
Segment 3 was basically… ride it like I stole it, throttle wide open, use the pedals as foot-pegs, hunker down and go as fast as possible until battery was depleted. I wasn’t on the bike path at that point – I was riding on an open but quiet road and in a couple of huge nearly empty parking lots – so I could safely push the bike pretty hard. Here are the numbers for Segment 3:
Distance: 7.0 miles
Consumed 3.262 Ah of power (20.7 Wh/mile)
Average speed: 18.9
Max speed: 30.3
Max amps: 33.13
Battery was showing signs of depletion (voltage drop) by then. Maybe ~7% of theoretical capacity left? I didn’t want to abuse it, so I called it a day and headed home.
Very pleasantly surprised with how well the entire setup performed.
42.88 miles total.
24.92 of speedy to aggressive riding.
17.92 of mild touring style riding.
Only complaint: my wrist was getting sore from holding throttle
Design is not cutting edge at all – the bike isn’t powered with recycled phaser cannon batteries or anything like that.
Instead I studied ES until I had a pretty good idea about a couple of tried-and-true build approaches, figured which one would work best for my need, then I used that recipe.
This post is basically a report on real-world testing of the bike, intended to help any other newbies who are interested in that particular setup.
Bike is basically:
- 1980s Trek mountain bike frame, 26” wheels
- MAC 10T motor
- 48v 12.6 Amp hour Samsung NCM battery pack
- 9 FET 3077 controller
- CA V2.5
Bought all but the bike from Cellman (EM3ev).
Bike turned out to be dynamite, copes with hills like a champ, tops out >30mph, hauls reasonable amount of groceries with no sweat.
Until this weekend, I mostly rode it on short trips around home turf.
This weekend I had a chance to do a real test. Thanks to my wife attending a conference at Squaw Valley (in the Sierra Nevada mountains, near Lake Tahoe) I had a free room and a couple of free days to ride. I went along, and brought the bike.
'Test track’ was the mostly flat, nicely paved bike path that runs along the Truckee river and west shore of Tahoe, for about 20 miles.
Beautiful ride, do it if you ever get the chance.
Got lucky and had beautiful weather too.
I divided the test ride into three segments: conservative riding, aggressive riding, and flat out riding.
Segment 1 was the initial ride from start-point to end-of-trail. Since I didn’t want to end up with a flat battery 20 miles from the hotel, I was conservative with power heading out. Basically, tried to keep the power to ‘EU / AU legal’ level of <250W. Here was a pleasant surprise: even when I was just sipping power (like <100W), the electrics gave a nice steady power boost, felt like I was riding with wind at my back. At 250W, plenty of power and speed on the flats. I goosed it now and then for laughs (max ~1500W) or when going uphill, but was pretty moderate. At the end of 20 miles, here are the numbers:
Distance: 17.96 miles
Consumed: 3.047Ah of power (9.4 Wh/mile)
Average speed: 11.1 mph
Max speed: 23.5 mph
Max amps: 30.01
Battery was still theoretically at ~75% of capacity.
Segment 2 was the return ride. I didn’t try to conserve power at all. Instead I went as fast as I safely could on bike path, and didn’t pedal much. Philosophically, it was “home James, and don’t spare the horses”. For the return trip, here are the numbers:
Distance: 17.92
Consumed: 5.507 Ah of power (15.5 Wh/mile)
Average speed: 15 mph
Max speed: 28 mph
Max amps: 33.13
Battery was still theoretically at ~30% of capacity.
I was pretty surprised that I’d done 38 miles and still had significant battery remaining. So I went on to Segment 3 – "just burn through the power".
Segment 3 was basically… ride it like I stole it, throttle wide open, use the pedals as foot-pegs, hunker down and go as fast as possible until battery was depleted. I wasn’t on the bike path at that point – I was riding on an open but quiet road and in a couple of huge nearly empty parking lots – so I could safely push the bike pretty hard. Here are the numbers for Segment 3:
Distance: 7.0 miles
Consumed 3.262 Ah of power (20.7 Wh/mile)
Average speed: 18.9
Max speed: 30.3
Max amps: 33.13
Battery was showing signs of depletion (voltage drop) by then. Maybe ~7% of theoretical capacity left? I didn’t want to abuse it, so I called it a day and headed home.
Very pleasantly surprised with how well the entire setup performed.
42.88 miles total.
24.92 of speedy to aggressive riding.
17.92 of mild touring style riding.
Only complaint: my wrist was getting sore from holding throttle