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- Feb 21 2022 11:01pm
- Forum: EBike Non-hub Motor Drives
- Topic: Best Mid-drive Motors in 2021
- Replies: 90
- Views: 9049
Re: Best Mid-drive Motors in 2021
Seems more of a preview was posted on EBR including an actual photo:
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- Feb 18 2022 7:08pm
- Forum: EBike Non-hub Motor Drives
- Topic: Bafang M500/M600 thread
- Replies: 1287
- Views: 125104
Re: Bafang M500/M600 thread
I've ridden both M600 and Brose Mag S and there is no comparison. The Brose is very smooth and refined but if you put them both in the highest PAS up a gravel road the M600 is going win the race every time unless there is something wrong with the motor. Might be a different story on a more challengi...
- Dec 19 2021 3:13am
- Forum: EBike Non-hub Motor Drives
- Topic: Bafang M620/G510 (and all other Bafang motors) now on CAN-BUS (2021+) rather than UART (2018-2020)?
- Replies: 48
- Views: 8765
Re: Bafang M620/G510 (and all other Bafang motors) now on CAN-BUS (2021+) rather than UART (2018-2020)?
A couple months ago I asked Watt Wagons about that and it sounded like you can't just swap controllers because there is actually some hardware on the motor (separate from controller) that is specific to UART or CANBUS, so they needed a translation chip to make that hardware on CANBUS motors work wit...
- Nov 28 2021 12:24am
- Forum: EBike Non-hub Motor Drives
- Topic: Best Mid-drive Motors in 2021
- Replies: 90
- Views: 9049
Re: Best Mid-drive Motors in 2021
Ha, I was also just checking back to see if there was any update.
- Sep 27 2021 5:36pm
- Forum: EBike Non-hub Motor Drives
- Topic: Best Mid-drive Motors in 2021
- Replies: 90
- Views: 9049
- Jul 23 2021 2:22pm
- Forum: EBike Non-hub Motor Drives
- Topic: Bafang M500/M600 thread
- Replies: 1287
- Views: 125104
Re: Bafang M500/M600 thread
All things considered, it would be nicer if Luna Cycles started to embrace opensource and DIY and share which knowhow they have about the motors and which procedures they follow to modify theirs. We donnot need any proprietary software at this stage, we mostly just need to start to learn how the pr...
- Jun 23 2021 2:24am
- Forum: EBike Non-hub Motor Drives
- Topic: Bafang M500/M600 thread
- Replies: 1287
- Views: 125104
Re: Bafang M500/M600 thread
Just checking back in to this thread as I'm planning to rid myself of Luna'a custom (aka cluster) firmware. Is 46.7 a recent release? The date indicates it was released back in November so I'm guessing not. How does it compare to 46.6? On the luna forum the consensus seems to be 46.6 wasn't the best...
- Mar 04 2021 1:30am
- Forum: EBike Build Threads
- Topic: Wayne’s Dengfu Carbon Fibre FS 27.5” with Bafang M600 (throttle also)
- Replies: 433
- Views: 64480
Re: Wayne’s Dengfu Carbon Fibre FS 27.5” with Bafang M600 (throttle also)
In terms of smoothness, I would think that's a function of firmware as opposed to controller. Have you considered ordering the BESST tool from Luna to experiment with various firmware? https://lunacycle.com/bafang-besst-service-tool/ I decided to pick one up as the Luna X1 tuning is garbage (practic...
- Jan 30 2021 4:38am
- Forum: EBike Build Threads
- Topic: Wayne’s Dengfu Carbon Fibre FS 27.5” with Bafang M600 (throttle also)
- Replies: 433
- Views: 64480
Re: Wayne’s Dengfu Carbon Fibre FS 27.5” with Bafang M600 (throttle also)
complete motor from Luna. They have them in stock and $650.00 and be done with it. Ok, sorrry but this made me. :lol: :lol: :lol: Be advised you may also need to pony up another $100 for the BESST tool from Luna (unless you already have it) to rid yourself of their M600 "tuning" (IME wort...
- Jan 20 2021 10:37pm
- Forum: EBike Build Threads
- Topic: Wayne’s Dengfu Carbon Fibre FS 27.5” with Bafang M600 (throttle also)
- Replies: 433
- Views: 64480
Re: Wayne’s Dengfu Carbon Fibre FS 27.5” with Bafang M600 (throttle also)
I'm assuming it's bikee's latest project: viewtopic.php?f=28&t=103429
- Nov 07 2020 5:49am
- Forum: EBike Non-hub Motor Drives
- Topic: Dengfu E06, Wafa or Haibike?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 2484
Re: Dengfu E06, Wafa or Haibike?
Battery life on Ultra with stock controller is disappointing. The aftermarket innotrace controller improves range by 20% or more IME and many other benefits. Since you are in North America I would consider Watt Wagon's upcoming FS carbon bike: https://electricbikereview.com/forums/threads/fs-watt-wa...
- Nov 01 2020 12:43am
- Forum: EBike Non-hub Motor Drives
- Topic: Bafang M500/M600 thread
- Replies: 1287
- Views: 125104
- Oct 13 2020 6:32am
- Forum: EBike Reviews & Testing
- Topic: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000
- Replies: 2506
- Views: 371819
Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000
Same version (TK419). Any additional suffix just signifies various options none of which are useful for ebike use. I purchased mine on Amazon with express shipping as I wanted it fast. Arrived in less than a week. More details here: https://electricbikereview.com/forums/threads/anti-theft-gps.826/po...
- Oct 13 2020 2:44am
- Forum: EBike Reviews & Testing
- Topic: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000
- Replies: 2506
- Views: 371819
Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000
This GPS Tracker is working great in my Frey CC secured in the downtube near the internal routing holes and hardwired to internal battery. I tapped into the charging port which has a fuse. Frey might consider offering it as a pre-installed option (although users would need to remove it to install th...
- Oct 11 2020 5:32am
- Forum: EBike Reviews & Testing
- Topic: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000
- Replies: 2506
- Views: 371819
Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000
I am not sure I understand but why does it matter for innotrace controller? Does it not have a cap?
Also, my CC display with innotrace controller reads ~1v less than measured directly by my voltmeter. Could this be due to a battery diode? Or are they only used with dual battery setup?
Also, my CC display with innotrace controller reads ~1v less than measured directly by my voltmeter. Could this be due to a battery diode? Or are they only used with dual battery setup?
- Oct 02 2020 1:39am
- Forum: EBike Non-hub Motor Drives
- Topic: Bafang M500/M600 thread
- Replies: 1287
- Views: 125104
Re: Bafang M500/M600 thread
Luna is of no help. I am in contact with Bafang USA's warranty rep to see what they might be able to do about the low PAS issues. I inquired about how I could update to the latest firmware without sending my motor in. This is the latest from him: hi, Tom think it's the M600 controller problem. I nee...
- Sep 28 2020 12:34am
- Forum: EBike Reviews & Testing
- Topic: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000
- Replies: 2506
- Views: 371819
Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000
You can't use eggrider. I believe they are coming out with a display pretty much identical to the eggrider which you can program the controller on the fly. The only cons are integrated lights don't work due to step down voltage issues. I replaced my rear light with a manual rechargeable light that i...
- Sep 27 2020 11:50pm
- Forum: EBike Non-hub Motor Drives
- Topic: Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000
- Replies: 92
- Views: 21065
Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! NEW FREY EX and FREY CC
Those are 250W nominal euro-spec motors so they can get away with it. From what I've read Gates spec does not allow for tensioner with higher powered motors, at least that's what Watt Wagons indicated. See this post by puskar on EBR: https://electricbikereview.com/forums/threads/woohoo-we-are-live-w...
- Sep 21 2020 4:58pm
- Forum: EBike Non-hub Motor Drives
- Topic: Bafang ultra max 2.2kw EXCESS controller
- Replies: 89
- Views: 15716
Re: Bafang ultra max 2.2kw EXCESS controller
I am told there will be an innotrace controller for the M600 next year, so you could upgrade later if the Bafang tuning doesn't meet your needs. I would go with the Dengfu E10 and M600 if you want something closer to a suitable eMTB at suitable cost. I think the Ultra may be too heavy for that purpo...
- Sep 21 2020 2:54pm
- Forum: EBike Non-hub Motor Drives
- Topic: Bafang M500/M600 thread
- Replies: 1287
- Views: 125104
Re: Bafang M500/M600 thread
Where did you guys obtain the BESST tool? Lunacycle told me they would provide temporary login to flash the latest firmware from Bafang if I could obtain the BESST tool but they don't sell it. FLX won't sell it unless you buy a bike from them. I conctacted CNEbikes. They replied back that they don't...
- Sep 11 2020 1:09am
- Forum: EBike Reviews & Testing
- Topic: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000
- Replies: 2506
- Views: 371819
Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000
Favorite programming setting was my credit card number to order the aftermarket controller.
- Sep 03 2020 6:43am
- Forum: EBike Non-hub Motor Drives
- Topic: Bafang ultra max 2.2kw EXCESS controller
- Replies: 89
- Views: 15716
Re: Bafang ultra max 2.2kw EXCESS controller
I get a little vibration stopped at a light with leg resting on pedal and slight force from partial body weight. Not any big deal though. I'd think this is normal as I've experienced similar with other torque sensing motors.
- Sep 03 2020 6:37am
- Forum: EBike Reviews & Testing
- Topic: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000
- Replies: 2506
- Views: 371819
Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000
I am not trolling. You can put rack and fenders on the AM 1000. See link to Frey's FB page. Or just search this thread. Many have done it. You can even add them on the EX. Or see the FS offerings by QuietKat or Backou with Ultra motor. They have racks and fenders and ~$2000 of padding but otherwise ...
- Sep 02 2020 11:31pm
- Forum: EBike Reviews & Testing
- Topic: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000
- Replies: 2506
- Views: 371819
Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000
Dood, you can put rack and fenders on the AM 1000. Find your mythical $750 used FREY and the world is your oyster!
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- Sep 02 2020 4:40pm
- Forum: EBike Reviews & Testing
- Topic: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000
- Replies: 2506
- Views: 371819
Re: My Bafang Ultra Mountain Bike! Frey AM1000
Just buy a used AM 1000. Been out for 3 years now. Should be able to find one for $750. 
