Endless Sphere

@3DTOPO @Offroader Kudos for the stamina and never cave mentality. This battle have been going on for pages upon pages. I tip my hat to both of you for the rock hard triathlon stamina. ;) :lol: That vid posted about hybrid tires made me wanna try a sticky hybrid, but still with a little bite to it....

I think you take the word "best" to literally. For him to literally use the word best he would have to try every tire possible - which of course is a ridiculous notion. But for him to call it the best, I was just expecting the video to test more than one possibility. So, I just found the video titl...

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Apr 13 2020 9:19pm

I think you take the word "best" to literally.

Words are supposed to have meaning.

A more accurate title for the video would be "Good Tires" or "Better Tires", but using "Best Tires" is definitely more click baity than the more honest titles.

best surron tires?? :wink: 6WMip0ZczeA I was expecting the video to try out and compare different tires. But no, the only tires other than the stock tires he has tried he declares the "best". Of course they are better than the stock tires, but declaring them the best seems dubious. Pretty sure a kn...

Let me get this straight, you are running a M403 19" 70/100 size front and rear? What size rims are you using? Front: Maxxis Maxxcross IT 70/100-19 Back: Bridgestone M403 70/100-19 Stock rims. I believe this tire is discontinued so this would be a M203 now? That is what Rix said, with a slightly so...

I already clarified why I said tires were the best and it wasn't because I was blindly recommending a tire for everyone like you keep saying. Not going to keep going back and forth with this. But why did you say this then (emphasis added): Yes, I want to be provocative by saying its the "best" Funn...

You lack reading comprehension. Read the stuff you quoted above. Two of them were stating my opinion with using words "this may be" "This is probably". Dude - you admitted that you were intentionally calling tires "the best". Why don't you just admit it? I'm sure everyone is tired of this crap. The...

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Apr 12 2020 9:05pm

I'm not really telling anyone want is the best

Then why did you say this?

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Apr 10 2020 12:02pm

Yes, I want to be provocative by saying its the "best"

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Apr 12 2020 8:33pm

You have to be doing some serious riding or racing if you are having cornering issues with traction.

Actually all it takes is patches of sandy, soft, loamy, muddy, snowy, icy to make corning a top concern. I thought your name was "Offroader"?

Someone who claims to know what the best tires are for everyone should know that. Missed that, again, link me to a post where I am telling everyone what the best tires are. You keep saying this but are not showing me the posts. Then you show me a post where I said, "probably the best tire" and that...

The sur-ron does not have alll that much power and no gears, so you have to decide if a 3.5" tire will offer anthing but added unsprung weight. I'm not having traction issues with my 3" tire, hard to justify a 3.5" tire. It's not just about traction from power. It's also about cornering and distrib...

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Apr 12 2020 8:13pm

I still don't see any posts where I just straight out said anthing was the best, or the way you are saying I am making recommendations about the best tire.

You seem to be completely contradicting yourself:

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Apr 10 2020 12:02pm

Yes, I want to be provocative by saying its the "best"

Link me to a post where I said all this stuff. I went through all my old posts and I do not see any post which was misleading or recommending stuff not in context to how I am riding. Maybe you are the one taking one sentence of out context and then trying to fight with me about it. You won't link a...

This really isn't true, I never really said this is the best tire for everyone. It was always in the context of someone who uses the bike both on and offroad. Wrong. You have said it several times, and not in that context: Rix, I have an 18x3.00 Shinko 241 tire. That really is probably the best tir...

As far as my SurRon goes, I got it running and am thinking of running a 17x1.85" rim with a shinko 308 3.50-17 tire. I probably has the same OD as your 3.00-18, but wider. Doing the research now and ordered a 64T rear sprocket from Motomoto just in case I go that big. According to Offroader, you do...

If I lived and rode where 3DTopo lives, I would never run anything but a the M403, which BTW, has been discontinued, now we got the M203 which is a slightly softer rubber compound, or the X20 and X30. Of course there are knobby tires out there by other Tire MFG we can dip into for knobby options. N...

Congrats on getting your new bike up and running Rix! Sounds sweet, is it the special edition? Can't believe it took so long, it's been months since you got it, no? The problem I have with Offroader's posts are that he (1) assumes the vast majority of people don't use the Sur Ron for real off-road u...

You have to understand, I want to generate ideas here and I want people to tell me how that isn't the best tire. If you or anyone else can tell me a better tire, then please tell me a better tire and the reasons why. I have meticulously replied to your posts point by point that you in-turn mostly i...

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Apr 09 2020 8:03pm

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Apr 08 2020 1:16pm

I'm going with this one. Looks to work very well, why would I want to go with a metal bash guard?

Yah the metal bashgaurd is tough. Sledge hammer proof.

Did you mean to say the HDPE bashguard is tough?

I doubt many people are putting Sur-rons in their trucks and driving them to off-road trails. I think that is an ignorant claim to make. That said, I don't need to load it in a truck, there is dirt from my driveway to the mountain peaks here. I drive probably 70%-30% street/off road riding. This is...

I mostly agree with you Offroader. I was probably the first person to every run the SR241 on an ebike. My avatar pick from 2012 show the 3.00-17 on the rear of my Bomber. I ran 2.75 and 3.00 in both 17 and 18" wheel sizes, and they were better, hooked better, and performed better in all conditions ...

the rim lock can help at lower pressure bc tire is more likely to rotate relative to the rim with lower psi, which could break the air seal or damage a tube valve.. I'm confused. I understand and agree rim lock prevents tube valves from being damaged, but I thought you were talking about using a ri...

I do a lot of deep woods riding, riding up steep dirt hills, lots of rocky roads, loose dirt, I'm not sure if a moto wheel, what ever that is exactly would suffice. I need a knobby tire, but if the knobs are too small it will wear too quickly on pavement. That is probably why a trials tire like the...

Liner, bladder, plastic block, rim lock all together makes it as heavy or more than HD or even UHD tube imo I ran couple of test rides with tubliss @ 0,3,5 psi, traction is like a dream. The only reason i removed it because it wouldn't hold air. plus too much effort to changing tire. it might be go...

lowering the PSI made a huge difference in how the rear tire felt, it didn't feel as hard or as harsh. It actually feels pretty much like the stock sur-ron tire, which I ran at 14PSI. Can 3 PSI really make that much of a difference? I don't know, but the tire feels very good and the same as having ...