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- Oct 12 2020 8:01am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
- Replies: 85
- Views: 4019
Re: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
Not trying to dissuade you from getting a BMS, but it's something you can always add later. It'll save you from swopping the 3 main leads and 3 balance leads each time you want to charge, which is perhaps a minute of your time. The fuse, contactor and pre-charge circuit is something you're going to ...
- Oct 09 2020 11:42am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Another GasGas trials bike conversion
- Replies: 38
- Views: 5574
Re: Another GasGas trials bike conversion
I ziptied my phone to the breastplate and had a quick blast around the garden after work.
Not great footage, but super fun
Not great footage, but super fun

- Oct 08 2020 11:54pm
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
- Replies: 85
- Views: 4019
Re: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
You will need both a fuse and a switch/relay/contactor, rated for the max amperage you expect to draw. I've got an Allbright SU-2025 48V switch/relay/contactor (blue box) with a 200A fuse (yellow box). This relay is switched by the magnetic lanyard similar to what you have. To be more precise, the l...
- Oct 08 2020 2:23am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
- Replies: 85
- Views: 4019
Re: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
Yeah I think you've got it. :-) Splitters for both the balance leads and the main leads. Your red boxes exposed in a panel. :thumb: The word "manifold" I used is not the best word. "Patch bay" or "patch panel" would have been better. Basically a hole cut in a box with y...
- Oct 07 2020 1:26am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
- Replies: 85
- Views: 4019
Re: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
If you use 3 x 6s2p (28Ah) in series, then each 6s2p (28Ah) pack is effectively one battery. So you end up with 3x 28Ah batteries in series again, which you can charge all at the same time (since your charger can handle up to four batteries). I think once you've paralleled two 6s packs, you probably...
- Oct 06 2020 6:25am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
- Replies: 85
- Views: 4019
Re: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
If you use the balance leads to keep the cells connected in parallel during use, then I don't think it makes much difference how you connect the packs. Either 3 packs in series, and then these 2 in parallel, or 2 packs in parallel and then these 3 in series. You may want to consider cutting and sold...
- Oct 06 2020 12:52am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
- Replies: 85
- Views: 4019
Re: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
Wow, that looks like a righteous unit!
I'm going to be very keen to see how this turns out - I might have to upgrade too

I'm going to be very keen to see how this turns out - I might have to upgrade too

- Oct 04 2020 1:14pm
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Another GasGas trials bike conversion
- Replies: 38
- Views: 5574
Re: Another GasGas trials bike conversion
I finally got around to getting the video done. yay!
So here's the 121T sprocket in all its glory
So here's the 121T sprocket in all its glory

- Sep 23 2020 8:40am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
- Replies: 85
- Views: 4019
Re: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
So for conversation sake, Does this work out in other formats as well? as long as I end up to 72 volts, then match it for more capacity on with Parallel? Theoretically, yes. However, no two cells are exactly the same, and no two packs are exactly the same. When you have a bunch of cells connected i...
- Sep 23 2020 3:49am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
- Replies: 85
- Views: 4019
Re: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
Well, I've got the following bikes with different battery packs:
- Oset 20 with 2x 6S 16AH LiPo's (48V controller)
- Oset 16 with 2x 5S 5AH LiPo's (36V controller)
- GasGas frame with Oset parts, with Oset 20Ah48V Li-Ion battery pack.
- Sep 23 2020 1:39am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
- Replies: 85
- Views: 4019
Re: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
The battery in your picture appears to be a 6s 4.5ah pack. more specifically, a 6s 1p 4.5ah pack. These LiPo packs are normally all 1P, so they don't put 1P on the packaging. To take Dan's example further, using two 6S 4500mAh packs in a 2P configuration, you can get an 18S setup like the picture b...
- Sep 22 2020 7:50am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
- Replies: 85
- Views: 4019
Re: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
It's been mentioned above but I'll recap with what I know about LiPo's (sorry, this turned out to be a long post): You can charge a LiPo cell up to 4.2V, but you don't have to. Charging only up to 4.1V per cell will extend your battery lifetime. You can discharge to around 3.3V/3.2V/3.0V per cell de...
- Sep 21 2020 3:07am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
- Replies: 85
- Views: 4019
Re: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
I think a reduction stage is definitely a good idea. It opens up more options in terms of gearing, chain and sprocket selection and placement. With my build I was lazy and went direct drive with a 10T sprocket front and 121T sprocket rear. The bigger sprocket is more exposed and supposedly more pron...
- Sep 21 2020 2:55am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Another GasGas trials bike conversion
- Replies: 38
- Views: 5574
Re: Another GasGas trials bike conversion
Thought I'd post a quick update. I removed the front wheel drive. Turns out it's not that useful and the additional complexity and weight wasn't worth it. Also, they wouldn't let me compete with it. :shock: Was a fun experiment though. I've upgraded my controller from 100A to 130A and changed the re...
- Sep 10 2020 2:53pm
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
- Replies: 85
- Views: 4019
Re: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
dunno if it's just me, but your picture links are broken.. 

- Sep 09 2020 3:05am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
- Replies: 85
- Views: 4019
Re: Trials Motorcycle - 1st Build. Qs-motor +Votol
Nice! I used a 2001 Gas Gas TXT Pro frame for my build - very similar. https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=102413 Battery: LiPo packs were the easiest to source where I live, up to about 20AH. Use 2x 6S for 48V, 3x 6S for 72V. A 1 kWh pack should you give between 1 and 3 hours...
- Sep 06 2020 1:11am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: UK Battery Builders?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 468
Re: UK Battery Builders?
The LiPo batteries are generally easy to get as they have a good footprint in the RC/hobby market.
Go check the manufacturer's website and get in touch with your local distributor.
Their website should also have dimension info.
https://www.onbopower.com/m_page/7-DISTRIBUTORS.html
Go check the manufacturer's website and get in touch with your local distributor.
Their website should also have dimension info.
https://www.onbopower.com/m_page/7-DISTRIBUTORS.html
- Sep 04 2020 2:29am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: UK Battery Builders?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 468
Re: UK Battery Builders?
Maybe consider using 2x 6s LiPo packs in series. They come in various AH and C ratings.
I'm running 2x 6S16AH on a trials motor bike. I'm not using a BMS, just cell checkers with low voltage warning.
I'm running 2x 6S16AH on a trials motor bike. I'm not using a BMS, just cell checkers with low voltage warning.
- May 05 2020 8:16am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Nucular controller on gasgas
- Replies: 4
- Views: 619
Re: Nucular controller on gasgas
That looks like a nice bike!
How do you find the Nucular controller? Can you setup your own throttle maps?
How do you find the Nucular controller? Can you setup your own throttle maps?
- May 03 2020 4:23am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Observed trials bike designing
- Replies: 104
- Views: 8826
Re: Observed trials bike designing
An actual mechanical clutch might still be more natural for experienced riders with years of muscle memory. As electric motion launched this year electric trials bike with a clutch and a flywheel with adjustable weights it is hard for me to imagine en fully electric trials bike performing as well w...
- Apr 28 2020 6:20am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Observed trials bike designing
- Replies: 104
- Views: 8826
Re: Observed trials bike designing
I've been riding electric trials bikes for the last 3 years now and have become accustomed to riding without a clutch. I believe that it requires different technique but ultimately it comes down to preference. My preference is for low weight. I've made some mods to address some of the issues I've en...
- Mar 22 2020 4:05am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Help with Kuberg Controller
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1149
Re: Help with Kuberg Controller
Domestic/hobbyist switches are normally rated for resistive loads, you may need to uprate them by 2-3 times to cater for inductive loads. That being said, using a lower rated switch will just decrease its lifetime (contact wear), so you may be fine with a 30A resistive rated switch in the short term...
- Mar 19 2020 3:24am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Help with Kuberg Controller
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1149
Re: Help with Kuberg Controller
Not sure how much of this info may be useful to you, but anyway: I have a 36V OSET controller hooked up to a 36V 800W OSET DC brushed motor. From the picture above and the number and type of connectors, the controller looks similar to mine. One of the 2-pin connectors goes to the throttle charge ind...
- Mar 13 2020 2:46am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Another GasGas trials bike conversion
- Replies: 38
- Views: 5574
Re: Another GasGas trials bike conversion
Small update - upgraded the front SLA pack to LiPo's. I'm using two 5s 5200mah 25C packs, which gives me 36V nominal 5Ah with 130A continuous, 250A max. The weight and space saving is significant, and performance is very consistent - no sagging under full load like with the SLA's. Definitely a massi...
- Mar 13 2020 2:41am
- Forum: E-Scooter and Motorcycle General Discussion
- Topic: Another GasGas trials bike conversion
- Replies: 38
- Views: 5574