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- Sep 23 2020 8:48pm
- Forum: Large EV General Discussion
- Topic: EKartGo Project
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4195
Re: EKartGo Project
MOT wire still not here :( , so I worked on the KWeld. I replaced the tungsten electrodes with copper electrodes (since tungsten and nickel bond really nice). These work great, welding .2mm nickel to .2mm nickel with about 30J as well as to battery cells and let me get into much tighter spaces than ...
- Sep 23 2020 10:26am
- Forum: Battery Technology
- Topic: Tesla battery day announcement
- Replies: 48
- Views: 1724
Re: Tesla battery day announcement
Unless Tesla improves their parts and distribution to aftermarket repair shops, that's going to be really expensive. I've thought about opening up a EV only garage, but working on Tesla's is a sketchy proposition. ??I've been using an old Tesla 15s module for 5 years now for DR. They could surely m...
- Sep 22 2020 9:12pm
- Forum: Battery Technology
- Topic: Tesla battery day announcement
- Replies: 48
- Views: 1724
Re: Tesla battery day announcement
People like me who keep their cars for 10-15 years. And people who want to use them as second life behind-the-meter storage. Unless Tesla improves their parts and distribution to aftermarket repair shops, that's going to be really expensive. I've thought about opening up a EV only garage, but worki...
- Sep 22 2020 6:47pm
- Forum: Battery Technology
- Topic: Tesla battery day announcement
- Replies: 48
- Views: 1724
Re: Tesla battery day announcement
So here are my quick takeaways: Simplified manufacturing, simplified chemistry to end product, and form factor to support structural use. All reducing their costs (good) and allowing for faster production. From a non-Tesla perspective however (unless they actually sell cells direct at some point), t...
- Sep 21 2020 6:31pm
- Forum: Large EV General Discussion
- Topic: EKartGo Project
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4195
Re: EKartGo Project
I updated the bus bar design to allow more space between parts. Some sites said you should have 1.5x the material thickness for distance to allow better lead-in. Not sure if that is true, but I've mailed the file and specs to a local company to see what they say. Hopefully it is a go and not too cra...
- Sep 19 2020 2:18pm
- Forum: Large EV General Discussion
- Topic: EKartGo Project
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4195
Re: EKartGo Project
I decided to try and find someone local to try out laser cutting the copper sheet for the bus bars. The target sheet is 24"x24" and this takes up most of it with a little space left on the sides and bottom. I elongated the holes to 8x10mm to make it easier to spot weld across the split in ...
- Sep 19 2020 2:09pm
- Forum: Battery Technology
- Topic: Spot Welding Copper Strips to 18650 Battery Cells
- Replies: 458
- Views: 77643
Re: Spot Welding Copper Strips to 18650 Battery Cells
Happy to send you a DXF if you sketch what you want 2D DXF will be fine, no dims or writing needed just make sure you get the scale and units right. Thanks Bob. It worked, mainly the move/copy portion I found very tricky to get to work, along with the direction for the pattern (array). With enough ...
- Sep 19 2020 8:39am
- Forum: Battery Technology
- Topic: Spot Welding Copper Strips to 18650 Battery Cells
- Replies: 458
- Views: 77643
Re: Spot Welding Copper Strips to 18650 Battery Cells
Laser cutting thin metal sheet can be cheap and lots of places do it. - machine cost might typically be 30 an hour. Pretty standard for steel fabrication shops. Recommend you do a DXF for them to make their life easy (recommend "Fusion 360" free software) So I did that yesterday. Fusion 3...
- Sep 19 2020 8:32am
- Forum: Battery Technology
- Topic: Spot Welding Copper Strips to 18650 Battery Cells
- Replies: 458
- Views: 77643
Re: Spot Welding Copper Strips to 18650 Battery Cells
So I weld the 0.15mm nickel plate to the 2.0mm perforated copper plate first. Then flip it over and weld THROUGH the holes in the copper plate so I'm welding 0.15mm nickel to the cell. You are not going to be able to weld that with the KWeld. The copper sinks the heat too quickly. A WAG would be 15...
- Sep 18 2020 5:15pm
- Forum: Large EV General Discussion
- Topic: EKartGo Project
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4195
Re: EKartGo Project
Schedule of where this pack build is at - SO many things to do (and still buy)!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BVIJ29 ... sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BVIJ29 ... sp=sharing
- Sep 17 2020 4:33pm
- Forum: Large EV General Discussion
- Topic: EKartGo Project
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4195
Re: EKartGo Project
For the MOT soldering project that I'll use to solder the copper to the bus bars, I'm going to try with 4 AWG wire. But while waiting for that to arrive, I was curious how many loops of 1/0 I could fit. Two is the answer.
No, that won't work...

- Sep 15 2020 7:07pm
- Forum: Large EV General Discussion
- Topic: EKartGo Project
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4195
Re: EKartGo Project
BTW, here is what the future motor will be like. This is the hawk60 for comparison to what the size you see for the rather inefficient Motenergy motors.
- Sep 15 2020 2:34pm
- Forum: Battery Technology
- Topic: Spot Welding Copper Strips to 18650 Battery Cells
- Replies: 458
- Views: 77643
Re: Spot Welding Copper Strips to 18650 Battery Cells
I used the emachineshop.com CAD program and setup my main bus bars with square cutouts. For a quantity of 38 it would be $7.43 each with a $141.21 setup fee. The 24x24 copper sheet I bought was about $95 with shipping, which was enough for those plus 2 each of two other similar parts with some left ...
- Sep 15 2020 9:31am
- Forum: Battery Technology
- Topic: Spot Welding Copper Strips to 18650 Battery Cells
- Replies: 458
- Views: 77643
Re: Spot Welding Copper Strips to 18650 Battery Cells
I like that idea, just not the price for the dies. But for your project with SO many cells, maybe it makes sense for something like this:
https://www.mcmaster.com/3449A71/
- Sep 14 2020 2:43pm
- Forum: Large EV General Discussion
- Topic: EKartGo Project
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4195
Re: EKartGo Project
Thanks... On the motor I decided on the ME1302 over the ME1616 due to a number of factors: 1. Our "local" kart club only has two classes now, B&S 206 and TAG 100cc. I will initially run with the 206 senior heavy group until I get a second battery built. For 206 I only expect to have to...
- Sep 11 2020 8:51am
- Forum: Large EV General Discussion
- Topic: EKartGo Project
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4195
Re: EKartGo Project
So the stock KWeld spot welding tips are not going to work, especially on the thick bus bars, for the nickel to cell connections. I think the old STTOS line "bear skins and stone knives" applies here. The holes are 5/8" (roughly 8mm), and although I could make them larger, I'd rather ...
- Sep 10 2020 6:20pm
- Forum: Large EV General Discussion
- Topic: EV helper spreadsheet
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1049
Re: EV helper spreadsheet
Version 20200909
Added / Changed:
Added more motors
Added more controllers
Added current configurations for various ekart battery packs
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17zbJZl ... sp=sharing
Added / Changed:
Added more motors
Added more controllers
Added current configurations for various ekart battery packs
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17zbJZl ... sp=sharing
- Sep 09 2020 8:49pm
- Forum: Large EV General Discussion
- Topic: EKartGo Project
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4195
Re: EKartGo Project
OK, battery setup sorted with the H8, now works great for the nickel to cell connections! Resistance is Futile - However the nickel to copper bus bar assembly will have to wait a little bit. Both the "thin" 0.032 inch (0.8128mm) and 0.08 inch (2mm) copper plates to 0.2mm nickel are just a ...
- Sep 09 2020 10:44am
- Forum: Battery Technology
- Topic: kWeld - "Next level" DIY battery spot welder
- Replies: 1293
- Views: 193191
Re: kWeld - "Next level" DIY battery spot welder
This morning for the 0.2mm nickel with 0.8128mm copper plate I tried 100J and placed one electrode on the nickel side and the other on the opposite side of the copper plate. Better weld, but still not complete. Increasing the strength caused a timeout, so I'm going to try two of these batteries in s...
- Sep 08 2020 8:14pm
- Forum: Battery Technology
- Topic: "Copper/nickel sandwich" buses for series connections
- Replies: 38
- Views: 3192
Re: "Copper/nickel sandwich" buses for series connections
Did some experiments tonight with this technique using a KWeld... Welding 0.2mm nickel (8mm with a slit) to some scrap 0.52mm copper plate took 80J consistently. No issues whatsoever. Great bond. Then I tried the 0.2mm nickel with 0.8128mm copper plate and I couldn't quite get a strong weld. Last su...
- Sep 08 2020 7:58pm
- Forum: Battery Technology
- Topic: kWeld - "Next level" DIY battery spot welder
- Replies: 1293
- Views: 193191
Re: kWeld - "Next level" DIY battery spot welder
I haven't used Pb batteries myself, but have collected feedback from other users on the kWeld product page. A 65AH battery (the 'normal' size for cars, likely also your Subaro) seems to be in the 1000A region, and larger 100AH models are around 1400A. :warn: :warn: Can I make a poll from you guys u...
- Sep 06 2020 8:09pm
- Forum: Large EV General Discussion
- Topic: EKartGo Project
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4195
Re: EKartGo Project
Set up the kwelder today. I have too much current - so I'll have to use thinner leads or a weaker battery.
One H8 AGM battery with about 760mm of 2GA copper leads is too much for the record...
One H8 AGM battery with about 760mm of 2GA copper leads is too much for the record...

- Sep 05 2020 1:22pm
- Forum: Large EV General Discussion
- Topic: EKartGo Project
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4195
Re: EKartGo Project
Raw footage time lapse of the current 42S10P battery pack. This is the second layer. It uses 420 new Molicel INR-18650-P26A cells that will be tied together with copper plate / nickel strip sandwiches. Cells were measured and sorted into groups of 3.3v, 3.35v, 3.4v, 3.45v, 3.5v, 3.55v, and 3.6+v. Th...
- Sep 05 2020 11:55am
- Forum: Large EV General Discussion
- Topic: EKartGo Project
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4195
Re: EKartGo Project
Second layer completed... So far 44.1 lbs (20 kg).
Now I need to drill and trim all the copper bus plates.
Now I need to drill and trim all the copper bus plates.
- Sep 04 2020 9:53pm
- Forum: Large EV General Discussion
- Topic: EKartGo Project
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4195
Re: EKartGo Project
Some progress on building the pack tonight. One layer's cells inserted and ready for the busbar and strips. One to go...