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Calling All Linux Users(who want to help a newb)

Post by Electric Earth » Mar 27 2020 2:08pm

Now that I'm sitting around my apartment every day out of work, I figure this is the perfect time to finally get away from the crap that is windows. I've tried Ubuntu Briefly before, and am interested to try Linux again. However, I'm a Complete newb.

The laptop I want to install on is an old Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga. It has a dual core Intel Core i3 (4th Gen) 4010U / 1.7 GHz processor and 4gb RAM. The hard drive says it's a 224G SSD if that matters at all.

So my question is, being a Complete newbie and not being all that great at computers in general, what distribution should I start with? I've watched some youtube videos and read some links, but some first hand advice for my complete newbie level and my computer's abilities would be nice to have.

I'm planning on using this laptop to learn some simple video editing too, if that makes any difference. I plan on downloading a free video editing program to start(shotcut) that has minimum system requirements close to my laptops hardware. (CPU: x86-64 Intel or AMD; at least one 2 GHz core for SD, 2 cores for HD, and 4 cores for 4K. GPU: OpenGL 2.0 that works correctly and is compatible. RAM: At least 4 GB for SD, 8 GB for HD, and 16 GB for 4K.) Hopefully it will run...

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Post by flat tire » Mar 27 2020 2:32pm

Why do you want linux and why is windows crap? Anyway your brain will appreciate Arch linux cuz it shows you more of the system workings while still letting you follow a recipe to install and setup. Try that one.

And if your goal is to do video editing linux is the wrong platform there are a million inexpensive and good options that run natively on windows and osx but not linux.

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Post by Electric Earth » Mar 27 2020 2:48pm

Windows is crap because it's slow, intrusive, forces updates regularly, has anti-virus software that acts more like a virus than a block, etc. down to the little things like having issues keeping bluetooth devices connected and regular annoying little messages and updates prompts popping up. I've read that many of those struggles aren't an issue with Linux. So, I'd like to try it out.

I hadn't seen any recommendations for Arch in my searches for where to begin with Linux. Some of the things I'm reading about it don't sound like the place to start... "The default installation covers only a minimal base system and expects the end user to configure the system by himself/herself." From another source "Arch Linux is an independently developed, x86_64-optimised Linux distribution targeted at competent Linux users."

As for the video editing, that isn't the Main point. It's just something that I'm going to also be learning about on this machine. Perhaps I shouldn't have bothered to mention it. I've chosen a program that runs on Linux. As for osx, I would go with a mac if my sole purpose were video editing or something, but I'm talking about playing around with iphone videos while I'm living abroad, not doing movie editing for work or something.

My main thing is just that I need an easy place to start. I don't mind watching videos and researching forums to learn as I go, but if I step into a totally foreign environment, I won't even know where to begin.
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Post by markz » Mar 27 2020 3:03pm

Look at XUbuntu, I have tried that years ago, and it is good.
Take a peek at Mint, I heard great things about that distro.
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Ubuntu Studio’s repositories have access to the packages in the main Ubuntu OS as well as a few digital audio sequencers. Its main strength is in audio recording through tools like the JACK Audio Connection Kit.

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Re: Calling All Linux Users(who want to help a newb)

Post by Electric Earth » Mar 27 2020 3:17pm

markz wrote:
Mar 27 2020 3:03pm
Look at XUbuntu, I have tried that years ago, and it is good.
Take a peek at Mint, I heard great things about that distro.
Mint, Ubuntu, and Elementary are the main three I've been reading about. I'll definitely have to look into the studio thing. I hadn't seen that before. Thanks!

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Post by markz » Mar 27 2020 3:21pm

Electric Earth wrote:
Mar 27 2020 3:17pm
markz wrote:
Mar 27 2020 3:03pm
Look at XUbuntu, I have tried that years ago, and it is good.
Take a peek at Mint, I heard great things about that distro.
Mint, Ubuntu, and Elementary are the main three I've been reading about. I'll definitely have to look into the studio thing. I hadn't seen that before. Thanks!
A search of "The Best Linux" will reveal the idiosyncrasies of each distro, there are 100's of distro's and 1000's of "The Best Of" sites.

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Post by Electric Earth » Mar 27 2020 5:53pm

After more research and videos, I think Mint is probably the best Linux for a newbie coming from Windows, with Ubuntu maybe being the next step. Thanks for the advice!

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Post by flat tire » Mar 27 2020 6:24pm

Electric Earth wrote:
Mar 27 2020 2:48pm
Windows is crap because it's slow, intrusive, forces updates regularly, has anti-virus software that acts more like a virus than a block, etc. down to the little things like having issues keeping bluetooth devices connected and regular annoying little messages and updates prompts popping up. I've read that many of those struggles aren't an issue with Linux.
Oh OK so the problem rests entirely with you. None of those things are actually an issue with windows, and switching your OS to something for power users that requires more thinking and effort to do most stuff definitely won't help.

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Post by markz » Mar 27 2020 6:57pm

I am using Windows 10, not activated, and I am getting a message coming up on the GUI toolbar. Something about, "Needs Attention" I just had it up, but when I hit the down arrow it closed it not to come up again. Its kinda of annoying at times but for a split instance.

No plans to switch to Linux quite yet, but if I were to, I would need to use a sandbox/vm to play Steam games.

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Re: Calling All Linux Users(who want to help a newb)

Post by Electric Earth » Mar 27 2020 7:31pm

flat tire wrote:
Mar 27 2020 6:24pm
Oh OK so the problem rests entirely with you. None of those things are actually an issue with windows, and switching your OS to something for power users that requires more thinking and effort to do most stuff definitely won't help.
Thank you for this reply. It was almost as helpful as your first reply. I'm so glad you took both of our time to respond with such intelligent, helpful replies, not once, but twice. Please do continue.

It takes all of about four seconds to find plenty of people who dislike those same issues with Windows. In fact, most everything I mentioned is common complaints, and things that can't be "fixed." There's a good reason why people who are really into computers often run an OS other than windows. Most people just use Windows because that's what they've always used.

But I digress. Why are you coming here just to troll my thread? Your first reply wasn't particularly helpful, but no big deal. The second you're clearly just being an ass. Having a bad day, or just a miserable, childish person in general? Go find something better to do with your time.
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Post by Electric Earth » Mar 27 2020 7:40pm

markz wrote:
Mar 27 2020 6:57pm
No plans to switch to Linux quite yet, but if I were to, I would need to use a sandbox/vm to play Steam games.
One of the videos I watched mentioned that Steam is now on Ubuntu and Mint. I'm not a gamer, so I didn't look into it more, but I think you'd be good to go. Unless I'm not fully understanding the issue, which is totally possible. As mentioned, I'm still learning about computers and I'm not a gamer.

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Post by markz » Mar 27 2020 7:44pm

Electric Earth wrote:
Mar 27 2020 7:40pm
markz wrote:
Mar 27 2020 6:57pm
No plans to switch to Linux quite yet, but if I were to, I would need to use a sandbox/vm to play Steam games.
One of the videos I watched mentioned that Steam is now on Ubuntu and Mint. I'm not a gamer, so I didn't look into it more, but I think you'd be good to go. Unless I'm not fully understanding the issue, which is totally possible. As mentioned, I'm still learning about computers and I'm not a gamer.
Problem is the Steam games I currently have were all downloaded for Windows. I know games can also be purchased for Linux.

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Post by kauaicycler » Mar 30 2020 11:52am

I would suggest you start by deciding what software you want to use and then find the distros that supports it. You can then use this list to find the one that suits you best. I've used many over the years among my favorites are Mint, Elementary and Ubuntu. Being a mac user I liked Elementary the best but it required too many resources for the underpowered 32 bit machine it was running on. I'd suggest a version that looks similar to Windows to ease your transition.

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Re: Calling All Linux Users(who want to help a newb)

Post by Electric Earth » Mar 30 2020 10:02pm

I ended up going for the newest Mint Cinnamon. After research and some youtube videos and installation trouble shooting, I got it installed and dual booting on my machine. The only issue I'm having now is audio. Unfortunately audio seems like a common issue with Mint, I think. When I started searching for an answer, lots of results came up. I haven't found my problem yet, as a lot of the help guides go strait to lots of terminal script stuff, and I'm still a Complete newbie trying to figure out how to use the terminal.

For some reason my JBL bluetooth speaker will show up on the list, will connect for maybe one second, then disconnect. If I plug it in directly to the laptop via headphone jack/cable, it'll work for a minute or so and then start glitching and cut sound.

Other than that issue, I'm really liking Mint. And it's fun that I'm going to learn more about computers and how the software works over time, just due to using Linux. You can't do better than a free hobby!

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