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Post by methods » Jul 20 2013 12:51pm

Key Words: Straight Talk, ST, AT&T, Tethering, Unlock, Root, Android 4.1.1, Atrix, SQLite Editor, Titanium Backup, Speed Test, Mobile Hotspot, APN Backup & Restore,

Phone in this example: Motorola Atrix HD (dual core with 4.1.1) $100
Goal: Get Straight Talk working, Get Tethering Working


Problems and solutions:

Straight Talk is a service sold by Walmart. Flat $45/month for unlimited minutes, text, and data (to some degree). No contracts, no way for them to screw you. It is the only way to roll.

First you have to figure out which carrier has the best service in your area. Here it is AT&T - 4G even way out in the mountains. In Livermore it was T-Mobile. THis is the first and most important thing to find out.

Go to Straight Talk and get a Sim set up to run on either AT&T or T-Mobile. It is like $10 bucks
Get the appropriate phone - for AT&T make sure you buy a phone on Craigs List that was an AT&T phone... NOT some other supplier... because they all use different frequencies and although an AT&T sim will work in a T-Mobile phone, you will only get shit 2G speeds and poor service

Search terms for CL: ATT 4G, AT&T 4G, 4G, ATT, AT&T

Assuming AT&T
So you get your sim from straight talk
You get your AT&T phone from Craigs LIst with 4G
You reset the phone
You do a one click unlock (search your phones name - if needed)
You do a one click root

Now you are big pimping
Here are the other tools you MUST HAVE to be a gangster
Go to the market place (google Play - we are talking Arduino only here)

APN Backup & Restore
(Allows you to delete stock APN's that cause problems)

SQLite Editor
(An ABSOLUTE MUST!!!! This is what allows you to change all the factory flags on the phone. Three most important are:
dun_apn_changable 0 (set it to 1)

Scroll down to Settings and Storage (hammer and wrench)
settings.db
settings

Change: entitlement_check from 1 to 0

This is SUPER SUPER SUPER Awesome
Entitlement check is the shit flag that says your tethering wont work without subscription!... by turning this off you can now tether with or without a tether plan!

Ok - I am all over the place... but if you are trying to solve this problem the answers are here.... just take my key words and search

Another program you MUST HAVE

Titanium Backup Pro
You need this to be able to change the APN program to a system program. Android versions 4.10 and above no longer allow 3rd party apps to change APN settings! (Shitty move gooogle)... so the work around is to convert your 3rd party ap to system and then you can make changes.

Ok - 30,000 foot view

Got your phone and all that shit
Want to get it working

Unlock it
Root it
download: Titanium Backup, sql editor, apn editor

use Titanium to convert apn to system ap
use apn editor to delete all your apn's
create a new apn - fill it up with the PROPER SETTINGS (which is a half days searching worst case... not all are the same and some work better than others)

Oh YEA!

You have to download a program called Tweakker

Super important... dont skip this step....
This program will spit out the APN that are best for your phone. I used it and my speeds went up by 50% with much less lag on setting change.
It will give you settings for Internet, MMS... I just combined them

APN Type: default,mms,dun,*

When you try to do that your phone will probably tell you that you cant edit the dun
that is when you use the sql editor to change the

dun_apn_changable 1

ah... see?

default,* is for your internet
mms is for your picture text messages
dun is for tethering... NO DUN NO TETHER

You read me here?
If you have done a bunch of hacks, got tethering working (by changing entitlement to 0) but your computer connects but with no internet.... YOU NEED AN APN WITH TYPE DUN

Now...

you could make one... you may notice that the first time you run the tether it makes up a new APN. Edit it if you can to Straight Talk - I could not - so I deleted all of htem and made my own

This is just a bunch of critical information - if you need it you will understand


yea... so...

unlock
root
download programs
turn off entitlement
turn on dun editing
delete all the apn
get new apn with prog above
enter new apn info

ALWAYS POWER CYCLE

ALWAYS BE PATIENT... sometimes changes take 10 minutes or an hour to take... SERIOUSLY... I did a speed test a few minutes ago after FINALLY getting tethering working

ping 160ms
Down 750kb
Up 100kb

10 min later

ping 159ms
Down 5Mb
Up 1Mb

Yea boy... that is what I am talking about

Straight Talk is locking up accounts now... so get a phone app that will limit you to about 2GB of stream. Dont be an idiot and watch porno or torrent with that bandwidth... save it for when you need it!

Yea man... Android keeps getting more and more complicated and the aftermarket hackers keep getting more and more sophisticated

Best thing I learned: LEARN HOW TO SQL EDIT YOUR PHONE.... way better than uploading a fresh rom. almost all of those roms suck in some way or another. Just use the stock rom, use Titanium to freeze or delete all the bloat ware, use sql to re-enable all the controls you had before they turned them off, and go big pimping.

I just went back and read that - sounds like a crazy person... haha... but I am leaving it. The only shitting thing a person can do is search the forums and TAKE without at least trying to GIVE BACK. Above is a boiling down of a full 8 hours of intense internet searching I did to solve a series of increasingly more complicated hurtles that were between me and tethering high speed internet.

Now it is working.... I hope this helps one person - if it does then SWEET.

Two of the aps are pay: You need to pay for the SQL editor $3... Best money I ever spent. You also need the more expensive Titanium version to convert the APN editor to System.

Yea - some will say just load a custom ROM... in my experience a few of these roms are awesome and many of them SUCK. They are slow, features do not work, they are buggy, etc. If your stock rom jams then just hack it... SQL editing is the key. It is FRIGGING EASY.

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Post by swbluto » Jul 22 2013 12:40pm

methods wrote:Key Words: Straight Talk, ST, AT&T, Tethering, Unlock, Root, Android 4.1.1, Atrix, SQLite Editor, Titanium Backup, Speed Test, Mobile Hotspot, APN Backup & Restore,

Phone in this example: Motorola Atrix HD (dual core with 4.1.1) $100
Goal: Get Straight Talk working, Get Tethering Working


Problems and solutions:

Straight Talk is a service sold by Walmart. Flat $45/month for unlimited minutes, text, and da ta (to some degree). No contracts, no way for them to screw you. It is the only way to roll.

First you have to figure out which carrier has the best service in your area. Here it is AT&T - 4G even way out in the mountains. In Livermore it was T-Mobile. THis is the first and most important thing to find out.

Go to Straight Talk and get a Sim set up to run on either AT&T or T-Mobile. It is like $10 bucks
Get the appropriate phone - for AT&T make sure you buy a phone on Craigs List that was an AT&T phone... NOT some other supplier... because they all use different frequencies and although an AT&T sim will work in a T-Mobile phone, you will only get shit 2G speeds and poor service

Search terms for CL: ATT 4G, AT&T 4G, 4G, ATT, AT&T

Assuming AT&T
So you get your sim from straight talk
You get your AT&T phone from Craigs LIst with 4G
You reset the phone
You do a one click unlock (search your phones name - if needed)
You do a one click root

Now you are big pimping
Here are the other tools you MUST HAVE to be a gangster
Go to the market place (google Play - we are talking Arduino only here)

APN Backup & Restore
(Allows you to delete stock APN's that cause problems)

SQLite Editor
(An ABSOLUTE MUST!!!! This is what allows you to change all the factory flags on the phone. Three most important are:
dun_apn_changable 0 (set it to 1)

Scroll down to Settings and Storage (hammer and wrench)
settings.db
settings

Change: entitlement_check from 1 to 0

This is SUPER SUPER SUPER Awesome
Entitlement check is the shit flag that says your tethering wont work without subscription!... by turning this off you can now tether with or without a tether plan!

Ok - I am all over the place... but if you are trying to solve this problem the answers are here.... just take my key words and search

Another program you MUST HAVE

Titanium Backup Pro
You need this to be able to change the APN program to a system program. Android versions 4.10 and above no longer allow 3rd party apps to change APN settings! (Shitty move gooogle)... so the work around is to convert your 3rd party ap to system and then you can make changes.

Ok - 30,000 foot view

Got your phone and all that shit
Want to get it working

Unlock it
Root it
download: Titanium Backup, sql editor, apn editor

use Titanium to convert apn to system ap
use apn editor to delete all your apn's
create a new apn - fill it up with the PROPER SETTINGS (which is a half days searching worst case... not all are the same and some work better than others)

Oh YEA!

You have to download a program called Tweakker

Super important... dont skip this step....
This program will spit out the APN that are best for your phone. I used it and my speeds went up by 50% with much less lag on setting change.
It will give you settings for Internet, MMS... I just combined them

APN Type: default,mms,dun,*

When you try to do that your phone will probably tell you that you cant edit the dun
that is when you use the sql editor to change the

dun_apn_changable 1

ah... see?

default,* is for your internet
mms is for your picture text messages
dun is for tethering... NO DUN NO TETHER

You read me here?
If you have done a bunch of hacks, got tethering working (by changing entitlement to 0) but your computer connects but with no internet.... YOU NEED AN APN WITH TYPE DUN

Now...

you could make one... you may notice that the first time you run the tether it makes up a new APN. Edit it if you can to Straight Talk - I could not - so I deleted all of htem and made my own

This is just a bunch of critical information - if you need it you will understand


yea... so...

unlock
root
download programs
turn off entitlement
turn on dun editing
delete all the apn
get new apn with prog above
enter new apn info

ALWAYS POWER CYCLE

ALWAYS BE PATIENT... sometimes changes take 10 minutes or an hour to take... SERIOUSLY... I did a speed test a few minutes ago after FINALLY getting tethering working

ping 160ms
Down 750kb
Up 100kb

10 min later

ping 159ms
Down 5Mb
Up 1Mb

Yea boy... that is what I am talking about

Straight Talk is locking up accounts now... so get a phone app that will limit you to about 2GB of stream. Dont be an idiot and watch porno or torrent with that bandwidth... save it for when you need it!

Yea man... Android keeps getting more and more complicated and the aftermarket hackers keep getting more and more sophisticated

Best thing I learned: LEARN HOW TO SQL EDIT YOUR PHONE.... way better than uploading a fresh rom. almost all of those roms suck in some way or another. Just use the stock rom, use Titanium to freeze or delete all the bloat ware, use sql to re-enable all the controls you had before they turned them off, and go big pimping.

I just went back and read that - sounds like a crazy person... haha... but I am leaving it. The only shitting thing a person can do is search the forums and TAKE without at least trying to GIVE BACK. Above is a boiling down of a full 8 hours of intense internet searching I did to solve a series of increasingly more complicated hurtles that were between me and tethering high speed internet.

Now it is working.... I hope this helps one person - if it does then SWEET.

Two of the aps are pay: You need to pay for the SQL editor $3... Best money I ever spent. You also need the more expensive Titanium version to convert the APN editor to System.

Yea - some will say just load a custom ROM... in my experience a few of these roms are awesome and many of them SUCK. They are slow, features do not work, they are buggy, etc. If your stock rom jams then just hack it... SQL editing is the key. It is FRIGGING EASY.

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What is the point of this? Getting free internet on your laptop by piggybacking off a $45/month Walmart cellphone plan? And you're doing that because mobile internet plans are much more expensive?

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Post by methods » Jul 22 2013 12:59pm

The point is that most people go out and pay $50/month for a shitty phone plan that has limited minutes, then another $10 to text, then another $20 for limited data... all of which require a contract and all of which can land you with HEAVY overage fees at the end of every month.... then to add insult to injury the buttholes who run this racket want to charge you ANOTHER $20 a month (or $50) for the PRIVILEGE to tether your laptop to your phone when you are away from wifi

The point is that you can get your hands on a used, subsidized, AT&T smart phone for pennies on the dollar on Craigslist... then you can get a FLAT RATE $45, no contract, no risk, half price plan at Straight Talk that is the exact same quality without all of the drawbacks... AND THEN - using the information I posted above.... you can not only enjoy voice, text, and data... but you can also enjoy Tethering at no additional fee.

The alternative is to go out and pay for a data plan, have a separate dongle just for your computer? That sucks - how can you even share it? Between my wife and I (with our two phones and two plans) we have at least 4GB of 5Mbps tethering on tap at any time for FREE. So if we are at the beach and I want to watch a video at 1080P on my laptop I just poke a few buttons on my phone and BAM - I am up and running

Buying plans on top of plans on top of contracts on top of redundant hardware is for suckers.

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swbluto wrote:
What is the point of this? Getting free internet on your laptop by piggybacking off a $45/month Walmart cellphone plan? And you're doing that because mobile internet plans are much more expensive?
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Post by Thud » Jul 22 2013 1:09pm

Don't be a sucker...finaly a justification to upgrade from my track phone.
get some......

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Post by cal3thousand » Jul 22 2013 1:24pm

You making use of that 4G modem I sent ya?

BTW, this is great of you to share this info with the board! :D
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Post by swbluto » Jul 22 2013 1:24pm

methods wrote:The point is that most people go out and pay $50/month for a shitty phone plan that has limited minutes, then another $10 to text, then another $20 for limited data... all of which require a contract and all of which can land you with HEAVY overage fees at the end of every month.... then to add insult to injury the buttholes who run this racket want to charge you ANOTHER $20 a month (or $50) for the PRIVILEGE to tether your laptop to your phone when you are away from wifi

The point is that you can get your hands on a used, subsidized, AT&T smart phone for pennies on the dollar on Craigslist... then you can get a FLAT RATE $45, no contract, no risk, half price plan at Straight Talk that is the exact same quality without all of the drawbacks... AND THEN - using the information I posted above.... you can not only enjoy voice, text, and data... but you can also enjoy Tethering at no additional fee.

The alternative is to go out and pay for a data plan, have a separate dongle just for your computer? That sucks - how can you even share it? Between my wife and I (with our two phones and two plans) we have at least 4GB of 5Mbps tethering on tap at any time for FREE. So if we are at the beach and I want to watch a video at 1080P on my laptop I just poke a few buttons on my phone and BAM - I am up and running

Buying plans on top of plans on top of contracts on top of redundant hardware is for suckers.

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swbluto wrote:
What is the point of this? Getting free internet on your laptop by piggybacking off a $45/month Walmart cellphone plan? And you're doing that because mobile internet plans are much more expensive?

Thanks for the comparison! My mobile communication needs aren't substantial and I got by with a prepaid cellphone plan - Now, I don't have anything at all besides a home phone. I didn't even use a third of the minutes on my plan in a year, lol.

For mobile internet, I'm thinking the only time I would desire mobile internet was while traveling, and getting a month's worth of prepaid internet seems to be the most practical and cost-effective even if I have to buy a dongle. However, this Straight Talk does sound like a prepaid plan of sorts. If I need to buy cell service and require mobile internet, it does seem like the best deal for a month's worth of services.

A month of mobile internet service + minutes, using typical prepaid + dongle:
$100 prepaid (1000 minutes, lasts a year)
$80 dongle
$50 data
-----------------
$230

Straight Talk + Above hacks:
$45 Straight Talk prepaid package (Unlimited, lasts 30 days)
$20 cellphone and tools
--------------------------
$65

Should I ever need a year's worth of prepaid, I can just buy the prepaid whenever for $10-$100.

Not bad. Not bad. :mrgreen:

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Post by methods » Jul 22 2013 1:26pm

Thud wrote:Don't be a sucker...finaly a justification to upgrade from my track phone.

Lol - I have a $20 tracfone too... for conducting the nefarious business activities that I dont want associated with my good name :mrgreen:

"Hey man... let me get 20 CA's"

"Yo - how much is it for 20 boards of Arduino?"

"What dark ally should we meet in so that I can sell you that truckload of salvaged batteries?"

Tracfone is actually pretty cool. You go down to Wallyworld and drop $20 then leave with a phone, charger, and 3 months worth of anonymous text/call service. I bet it is only a matter of time before the government clamps down on that! Cant have citizens communicating anonymously! They... They... could conspire to stop watching TV or school their kids at home.

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Post by methods » Jul 22 2013 1:29pm

cal3thousand wrote:You making use of that 4G modem I sent ya?

BTW, this is great of you to share this info with the board! :D
I did. It got me through to this point where we finally have enough money for my wife to buy me a new phone :) That little dongle worked great - the only thing I wish I had done was to take the time to figure out the external antenna. I think it would provide a huge speed bump, especially out here in the cuts.

What I shared was a rambling mess but hopefully it will inspire a few people to break their contracts and go freelance.

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Post by swbluto » Jul 22 2013 1:33pm

Hmmm... seems you need an android phone. How cheap are the oldest usable Android phones?

I prefer not buying expensive cell phones as it seems that the likelihood of me breaking it increases exponentially with the price.

It seems I can find $50 working android phones on ebay. I wonder if they'll work...
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Post by methods » Jul 22 2013 1:35pm

Same procedure with an iphone - just different details.

Your average dual-core android phone running the latest is only about $100. Go try the new google maps - or the voice search - and you will be sold.

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Post by arkmundi » Jul 22 2013 1:41pm

methods, I really admire the hack! I'm going to wait for CLEAR service in my area and get the wimax Voyager hub. Promise is unlimited high-speed data for $49/month. Just have to wait for the expansion of coverage.

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Post by garfong » Jul 22 2013 2:53pm

For those trying to get an AT&T sim(ST no longer sells them): http://www.howardforums.com/showthread. ... ed-on-ebay
I'm still waiting for my sprint contract to expire :cry:

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Post by liveforphysics » Jul 22 2013 4:06pm

I've been contract free for 6 years now.

Having a contract is absolutely for suckers. The next evolution will be removing the voice/text BS side of a "service" they sell, and just having data that is on a distributed de-centralized mesh network of peer-to-peer, and wherever on the mesh net someone happens to have a data connection points, everyones data moves through the connected spots, no need for the phone company at all.
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Post by methods » Jul 22 2013 4:14pm

Yep

If you remember back the "$100 Laptop" used this idea.... school kids out in the jungle would get a laptop - each of them acting as a transponder... so even the kids way out in the cuts could still get internet access... each laptop along the way passing along access.

This is the kind of cooperation that crushes greed and profit.

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Post by torker » Jul 22 2013 7:01pm

garfong wrote:For those trying to get an AT&T sim(ST no longer sells them): http://www.howardforums.com/showthread. ... ed-on-ebay
I'm still waiting for my sprint contract to expire :cry:
I had the same prob and ended up getting Net-10 at&t card. It is basically the same company. I need to get brave and try this stuff. Right now I don't get "G" service. I either get "E" edge of service - I am 30 miles from metro area. Or I get "H" ?? Is that better than "G" ? :?
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Post by liveforphysics » Jul 22 2013 7:54pm

torker wrote:
garfong wrote:For those trying to get an AT&T sim(ST no longer sells them): http://www.howardforums.com/showthread. ... ed-on-ebay
I'm still waiting for my sprint contract to expire :cry:
I had the same prob and ended up getting Net-10 at&t card. It is basically the same company. I need to get brave and try this stuff. Right now I don't get "G" service. I either get "E" edge of service - I am 30 miles from metro area. Or I get "H" ?? Is that better than "G" ? :?
H = HSDPA High speed downlink packet access. You could think of it like "4G" if you want, it's capable of being very fast like 4G, but in practice it's all a box of chocolates.
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Post by torker » Jul 22 2013 9:29pm

It is all a box of chocolates for me :? I bought an unlocked AT&T Infuse . I got everything to work after much frustration but I would like to "optimize" it. But I am just a little worried I will screw it up. It is my phone for everything including my new business. I suppose if I write down/save settings I should be able to "fix" it if I get it hosed up. I am much better at physical fixes. I actually took it apart and tweaked the contacts inside to fix my loss of audio.. Saved by another helpful forum 8)
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Post by Gordo » Jul 22 2013 10:51pm

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Post by arkmundi » Jul 23 2013 11:03am

let's not loose focus on the google loon project, which if successful, will redefine access to the Internet

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Post by methods » Jul 23 2013 1:34pm

torker wrote:But I am just a little worried I will screw it up. It is my phone for everything including my new business. ....
That is the whole essence of being a DIY Maker bro - we all feel the fear and some of us are just more willing than others to take a risk. Worst case - reset the phone and start over. I highly doubt you will brick it - these days with 1-click root it is pretty damn simple.

Solving complex problems in the abstract is a great skill to learn. It is easy to see a crack in a piece of steel and weld it. Finding a crack in a piece of software is equally easy once you teach yourself to think the right way.

Keep at it, dont be afraid to fail, and search, search, search the forums until you get the right answer.

One big difference... 10 years ago a quick forum search would tell you if an answer existed or not. These days the signal to noise ratio is so bad that even after 4 hours of searching... failing over and over... becoming convinced that a solution does not exist... only then will I find the most obscure and tiny bit of evidence... burred deep in a thread... that ends up being the ultimate solution. Tweak search terms, be tenacious, and pimp that phone out how you want it to be.

-methods
Increasing battery voltage and controller current limit will result in a non linear experience

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Re: Free Internet - understanding APN's, Straight Talk,Tethe

Post by cal3thousand » Jul 23 2013 2:10pm

methods wrote: Keep at it, dont be afraid to fail, and search, search, search the forums until you get the right answer.

One big difference... 10 years ago a quick forum search would tell you if an answer existed or not. These days the signal to noise ratio is so bad that even after 4 hours of searching...

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^This!!
Get a Cycle Analyst and a Multimeter, you're still a noob if you don't have at least one of each.

Planning on posting questions or buying anything on this site? Put up your country (at minimum) on your profile. This is a worldwide forum and we haven't reached clairvoyance.

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Post by swbluto » Jul 23 2013 2:19pm

cal3thousand wrote:
methods wrote: Keep at it, dont be afraid to fail, and search, search, search the forums until you get the right answer.

One big difference... 10 years ago a quick forum search would tell you if an answer existed or not. These days the signal to noise ratio is so bad that even after 4 hours of searching...

-methods

^This!!
The signal to noise ratio just got worse.

And I'm guilty, too. lol

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Post by etriker » Jul 23 2013 5:41pm

Will this work on my Obama phone ? :shock:

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Post by mdd0127 » Jul 23 2013 8:26pm

Good info. Everything but the straight talk part. straight talk will drop your data speeds down to 1x if its system "thinks you might" use too much data. They throttled mine once I got to 250mb data and cut it off alltogether once I got near a gb. I didn't have data for the last two weeks of my first month with them and they weren't even going to turn it back on after I renewed my plan. When I first called about it, they kept redirecting me to a high data user message. When I finally got a supervisor on the line, they told me my data would come back, but at a throttled rate once I renewed my plan. I waited the two weeks and renewed. My data didn't come back on so I called and they told me to wait 24 hours. Did that. Still no data.Called again, repeat process. After a few days, I finally got a supervisor again and they told me that my data would never come back. A few emails to investor relations, board of directors, and the ceo fixed that but they throttled it to 1x after three days. I let the plan run out yesterday and won't be giving them any more money. Using the thing for music and wifi only now.

The phones suck balls too. You have to root them if you want to add any apps becausevthe factory software fills the system memory up with updates. I'm using pdanet to tether if I want to type anything long but if they catch you using if over the network, which they can do, they will cut your shit off.

They keyboard/touch screens suck too. I typed this on an optimus dynamic and am about ready to throw the bastard...sorry for all the typos. I'd fix them but it won't navigate back with the touch screen and there are no arrow keys. It automatically types shit you didn't even type too which causes untold rage.

So, straight talk lies about unlimited. They can tell if you've rooted your phone or are tethering and will cut you off. Their customer service hasvno problems lying to you, hanging up on you, or indefinitely transferring you in circles until you give up.

Also, I noticed that the phone was cooking my leg, microwave style. Did some experiments and the damn thing transmits something every few minutes, even when the phone's off. It doesn't stop until you pull the battery. Thought I was just trippin about this but it's real. Friends are feeling it too. It has to be way over the output limit for it to leave a vibrating hot spot on your leg, which is probably causing cancer.

Straight talk is tracfone is america movil.....owned by mexican cartel. Frock those muthafrockers!

There's a lawfirm in tulsa ok class action suing their asses. I joined. Google it.

There is no solution for affordable useable data. None. I've been through every carrier. Its all lies from crooks. Lets startva pirate internet before its too late! I have an old bag phone??? Maybe we could set a bunch of them up with a little solar panel, put them on top of mountains to be repeaters for a true, free pirate internet?
Turn it OFF!!!

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Re: Free Internet - understanding APN's, Straight Talk,Tethe

Post by swbluto » Jul 23 2013 11:21pm

mdd0127 wrote:There is no solution for affordable useable data. None. I've been through every carrier. Its all lies from crooks. Lets startva pirate internet before its too late! I have an old bag phone??? Maybe we could set a bunch of them up with a little solar panel, put them on top of mountains to be repeaters for a true, free pirate internet?
With Google's loon project that's supposed to provide free internet to people in Africa, you wonder if people in America can use it? lol.

It's not that I'm a super-cheapie kind of person, but paying $1200 a year for internet on the road sounds a bit much considering I don't even pay nearly half that for use of the internet and I would only really use it while traveling once or twice a year. And, like mentioned previously, it seems like since it's a global resource and the actual connection costs should be minimal per person if designed as such, it should be a fundamental human right to not be forced to pay for access through private greedy gatekeepers.

I personally had poor service with T-mobile's prepaid internet service: kept saying I had 0 minutes when I had plenty. :/ The 4G subscription version worked fine, but the $110/month phone bill was a bit much.

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