18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Talk about anything and everything here within reason.
Post Reply
User avatar
AussieJester   100 GW

100 GW
Posts: 8736
Joined: Mar 11 2008 3:33am
Location: Perth Western Australia

18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by AussieJester » Aug 26 2014 4:06am

Just watching the local nightly news, breaking news 18 year old knocked off his motorised bike by a truck, in RPH fighting for his life, the footage showed what appeared to be a foldable style electric frock motor bike... Hopefully this doesn't initiate a crack down for local ebikers

KiM

PRW   10 kW

10 kW
Posts: 781
Joined: Nov 10 2011 10:10pm
Location: Auckland, NZ

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by PRW » Aug 26 2014 4:23am


dnmun   100 GW

100 GW
Posts: 16190
Joined: Jun 09 2008 1:32pm
Location: portland, or and loveland, co

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by dnmun » Aug 26 2014 4:41am

looks very bad. appears that oil pan was punctured by the bike so it is bad.

Rodney64   1 MW

1 MW
Posts: 1851
Joined: Mar 30 2012 4:00am
Location: Perth Western Australia

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by Rodney64 » Aug 26 2014 6:56am

I heard it was a petrol bike not a frock. But I maybe wrong. Either way roads around Perth are becoming busier day by day and our cycle lane are non existent apart for separate freeway and the swan river cycle ways.

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/rescu ... 08jvm.html

User avatar
liveforphysics   100 GW

100 GW
Posts: 14134
Joined: Oct 29 2008 1:48am
Location: Santa Cruz, CA, USA

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by liveforphysics » Aug 26 2014 12:44pm

AussieJester wrote:Hopefully this doesn't initiate a crack down for local ebikers
That would be a very silly thing to do. The bicycles are the safest vehicles on your roads, the cars are the ones causing the injury/death.
Each carcinogen vapor exposure includes a dice roll for cancer.

Each mutagen vapor exposure includes a dice roll for reproductive genetic defects in your children.

Each engine start sprays them into a shared atmosphere which includes beings not offered an opportunity to consent accepting these cancer experiences and defective genetics life experiences.

Every post is a free gift to the collective of minds composing the living bleeding edge of LEV development on our spaceship.

User avatar
The fingers   100 GW

100 GW
Posts: 7258
Joined: Mar 11 2012 11:22pm
Location: Desert Pacific Cali USA

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by The fingers » Aug 26 2014 4:27pm

We offer up our prayers for the young cyclist. :(
Black Schwinn High Sierra
Blue Schwinn Cruiser 5
Blue Schwinn High Plains
Black Fiore Cruzer 5: Amped Warp Drive 26" Front DD/SLA kit
http://ghostbikes.org/
http://www.rideofsilence.org/main.php
Hebrews 9:27

User avatar
bowlofsalad   1 MW

1 MW
Posts: 1540
Joined: Feb 01 2013 10:28pm
Location: Midwest, USA

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by bowlofsalad » Aug 26 2014 6:03pm

This might be a good time to remember the importance of lots of bright flashing lights.

One night recently I was riding on a paved trail and just barely missed hitting someone riding another bicycle, he was in the middle of the trail, traveling in the opposite direction. I don't know what he was doing, but I am not even sure if he saw me at all (which seems impossible) because he didn't move an inch from his original heading, I know he had headphones on and it looked like he may have been looking down. I have a very bright headlight, and only was able to dodge him because I caught a glimpse of the reflectors on his pedals just in time.

User avatar
Samd   1.21 GW

1.21 GW
Posts: 3667
Joined: Jun 28 2011 11:08pm
Location: Ballarat, AU
Contact:

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by Samd » Aug 26 2014 6:41pm

Poor fella. I'm with lfp on causation.

But fingers, really - offering prayers to deities after the fact might be the silliest thing I'll hear all day.
http://ballaratebikes.com/

ImageImageImage
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing that a 165mm rear shock can't deliver 220mm of rear swingarm travel." - Oprah Winfrey.

User avatar
Chalo   100 GW

100 GW
Posts: 7961
Joined: Apr 29 2009 11:29pm
Location: Austin, Texas

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by Chalo » Aug 26 2014 7:02pm

liveforphysics wrote:
AussieJester wrote:Hopefully this doesn't initiate a crack down for local ebikers
That would be a very silly thing to do. The bicycles are the safest vehicles on your roads, the cars are the ones causing the injury/death.
Yes, you are right. But since when have motorists/civil authorities done anything other than blame and regulate their victims? Everyone, it seems, must atone for the crimes of motorists, except motorists.
This is to express my gratitude to Justin of Grin Technologies for his extraordinary measures to save this forum for the benefit of all.

User avatar
AussieJester   100 GW

100 GW
Posts: 8736
Joined: Mar 11 2008 3:33am
Location: Perth Western Australia

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by AussieJester » Aug 26 2014 9:31pm

@Rodney. Was definitely not petrol engine mate, they showed the crushed bike, was
"girls" style low bar frame, I also saw the 200watt sized rear frock motor in the news footage.

@Luke. Maybe so, I feel a he'll of allot safer in my Ute now than on the roads on a ebike, in fact I'm selling all my ebikes, just to dangerous on road, too many idiots talking on cell phones not looking where they're going, it's ridiculous. Bought a quad bike (and no, I won't be electrifying it any time soon) so now all my riding will be exclusively off road.
Having a blast actually, really missed the BRaaaaaP

KiM

User avatar
pendragon8000   1 MW

1 MW
Posts: 1740
Joined: Sep 28 2012 3:29am
Location: Adelaide, Australia

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by pendragon8000 » Aug 26 2014 9:53pm

Some one died on what looked like an ebike in Adelaideabout a year ago. Nothing came if it.
If its legal , its a bike fatality AFAIK
8)HYENA high power ebike kits
My builds
scott 29er + Hyena kit, mon-goose to MON-STER 6KW, Free Agent RC Mid Drive, videos

my bike goes so fast 'cos it charges the battery while I pedal

User avatar
Samd   1.21 GW

1.21 GW
Posts: 3667
Joined: Jun 28 2011 11:08pm
Location: Ballarat, AU
Contact:

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by Samd » Aug 26 2014 10:35pm

Checked in with Jesse to make sure it wasn't him, which it wasn't. Not that I want it to be anyone at all!
http://ballaratebikes.com/

ImageImageImage
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing that a 165mm rear shock can't deliver 220mm of rear swingarm travel." - Oprah Winfrey.

Hillhater   100 GW

100 GW
Posts: 10660
Joined: Aug 03 2010 10:33pm
Location: Sydney ..(Hilly part !) .. Australia/ Down under !

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by Hillhater » Aug 27 2014 12:18am

AussieJester wrote:..... I feel a he'll of allot safer in my Ute now than on the roads on a ebike, in fact I'm selling all my ebikes, just to dangerous on road, too many idiots talking on cell phones not looking where they're going, it's ridiculous.
KiM
Jeez Kim, she really has you by the short & curlys !
What a waste of talent and experience. Just as Jonesy puts Perth on the EV map, you swap your multi meter for A rechargeable dildo !
I would at least expect you to be planning a LiPo powered Ute !
Just keep safe dude !
This forum owes its existence to Justin of ebikes.ca

User avatar
Modbikemax   1 kW

1 kW
Posts: 453
Joined: Jul 16 2014 1:38am
Location: Perth Western Australia
Contact:

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by Modbikemax » Aug 27 2014 6:46am

Looking at the scene in the pictures the truck had the brakes on lock for some time and he wasn't in the bike lane.
It looks like the cyclist tried to cross at the lights so unless the truck ran the light.......?

I have ridden a motor bike for 33 years, you cannot even once assume someone is going to give way to you just because you have the right of way.
It is even worse on a bicycle and an ebike. I was knocked off a bicycle 15 years ago when a driver failed to indicate a left turn ( we drive on the left here) and I assumed he was going straight.
Its not much fun watching a car wheel miss you by inches.

You must ride like you are invisible and there are no rules. People make mistakes, it happens and sometimes you don't get a second chance.
I see it nearly everyday, riders, powered and un powered, not doing themselves any favours. There is no point being right if you are dead right.
I am not saying don't have fun but there is a time and place for everything.

I hope the young bloke pulls through.

User avatar
TheBeastie   1 MW

1 MW
Posts: 1970
Joined: Jul 28 2012 12:31am
Location: Melbourne Australia

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by TheBeastie » Aug 27 2014 9:41am

Modbikemax wrote:Looking at the scene in the pictures the truck had the brakes on lock for some time and he wasn't in the bike lane.
It looks like the cyclist tried to cross at the lights so unless the truck ran the light.......?
That seems like a reasonable possibility, the first most visible set of lights are not walk-way pedestrian lights so if he was trying to legitimately cross the lights it would of been on the previous (un-visible) most distant set of lights, this seems quite plausible since you can see truck tire skid marks going all the way out of the picture frame below.
Attachments
260814genoakford3_19vo6al-19vo6cn.jpg
260814genoakford3_19vo6al-19vo6cn.jpg (222.83 KiB) Viewed 2030 times
Screenshot 2014-08-28 00.46.442.jpg
Screenshot 2014-08-28 00.46.442.jpg (70.52 KiB) Viewed 2027 times
Speed Kills Range, 10mph = 46 miles range, 20mph = 20 miles, 30mph = 8 miles rangehttps://goo.gl/1JNL53
Over Charging Kills ur battery bit.ly/1hzWKl4
Consider PAS as your only throttle https://goo.gl/Kg1F8F
Fuel-Cell is the ultimate battery coupled with 4th-gen Nuclear
https://goo.gl/TcKtHs https://goo.gl/ZhFFot https://goo.gl/gfa215
10 Square Miles of solar panels = 0.12GW average power! https://goo.gl/Ub1S39

User avatar
LockH   100 GW

100 GW
Posts: 17582
Joined: Jul 09 2013 11:06pm
Location: Ummm.. Started out in Victoria BC Canada, then started to move around... Oh oh.

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by LockH » Aug 28 2014 2:47pm

Well, guess this ranks right up there on the Crapola Scale... "Teenager hit by truck in Oakford on Tuesday dies in hospital"
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/teena ... 09ku0.html
ES changed my life (for the waaaaay better).

Eff. June, 2014 Phoenix Ebike Promotions

(Current ride? High speed lawn chair.)
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=57408

Phoenix Ebike Promotions conversion kit (work in progress. More drink holders, etc etc)
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=60564

Joined yer local chapter of EA yet?
(Ebikers Anonymous - Where we're all miserable failures, but the parties are hilarious...)

Hillhater   100 GW

100 GW
Posts: 10660
Joined: Aug 03 2010 10:33pm
Location: Sydney ..(Hilly part !) .. Australia/ Down under !

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by Hillhater » Sep 12 2014 12:27am

AussieJester wrote:Just watching the local nightly news, breaking news 18 year old knocked off his motorised bike by a truck, in RPH fighting for his life, the footage showed what appeared to be a foldable style electric frock motor bike... Hopefully this doesn't initiate a crack down for local ebikers

KiM
Kim, NSW have just announced a ban on motorised bicycles, and a clamp down on any non "Pedales" ebikes, and Ebike that are capable of more than 25 kph !
This forum owes its existence to Justin of ebikes.ca

User avatar
LockH   100 GW

100 GW
Posts: 17582
Joined: Jul 09 2013 11:06pm
Location: Ummm.. Started out in Victoria BC Canada, then started to move around... Oh oh.

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by LockH » Sep 12 2014 4:46am

Hillhater wrote:Kim, NSW have just announced a ban on motorised bicycles, and a clamp down on any non "Pedales" ebikes, and Ebike that are capable of more than 25 kph !
http://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/ ... ts2012.pdf
Based on? NSW doesn't appear to publish ANY statistics re "ebikes" (or whatever they are termed there)? ... Even the lowly pedal-only cyclist appears ranked waaay down the list compared to car/truck injuries and deaths, So to the casual observer... well, might wonder where their priorities lay? (Lots of industry supporting car/truck sales and service, road repairs, etc. I imagine) Where their priorities LIE?
ES changed my life (for the waaaaay better).

Eff. June, 2014 Phoenix Ebike Promotions

(Current ride? High speed lawn chair.)
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=57408

Phoenix Ebike Promotions conversion kit (work in progress. More drink holders, etc etc)
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=60564

Joined yer local chapter of EA yet?
(Ebikers Anonymous - Where we're all miserable failures, but the parties are hilarious...)

dnmun   100 GW

100 GW
Posts: 16190
Joined: Jun 09 2008 1:32pm
Location: portland, or and loveland, co

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by dnmun » Sep 12 2014 10:06am

this was a case of the truck driver racing to beat the light i bet. he was going too fast for him to control his tractor/trailer. this is just another case of negligent homicide imo. vehicular homicide.

User avatar
TheBeastie   1 MW

1 MW
Posts: 1970
Joined: Jul 28 2012 12:31am
Location: Melbourne Australia

Re: 18 year old Perth man fighting for life...

Post by TheBeastie » Sep 12 2014 10:40am

dnmun wrote:this was a case of the truck driver racing to beat the light i bet. he was going too fast for him to control his tractor/trailer. this is just another case of negligent homicide imo. vehicular homicide.
It should be law that all new cars have a video recorder built in, a recording 1080p video camera doesn't cost much more then a big mac meal ffs, then we could end such mysteries in a heart beat.
Not hard for such things to be maintained or the car is considered inroad worthy just like dirty number plates or bald tires.

They are always announcing in the news big police blitz on trucks being road worthy spending millions of dollars in pulling trucks over and checking them out yet but not being smart with technology.

I guess the government is saying kid is not worth it.
Speed Kills Range, 10mph = 46 miles range, 20mph = 20 miles, 30mph = 8 miles rangehttps://goo.gl/1JNL53
Over Charging Kills ur battery bit.ly/1hzWKl4
Consider PAS as your only throttle https://goo.gl/Kg1F8F
Fuel-Cell is the ultimate battery coupled with 4th-gen Nuclear
https://goo.gl/TcKtHs https://goo.gl/ZhFFot https://goo.gl/gfa215
10 Square Miles of solar panels = 0.12GW average power! https://goo.gl/Ub1S39

Post Reply