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Post by Hillhater » Aug 14 2015 4:50am

( as were rumoured to be the famous last words of the Mayor of Hiroshima ! )...
Seems something on a similar scale happened in Tianjin today.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2 ... 8bc9dc9b09
What were they storing to cause such devastation ?
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Post by dogman dan » Aug 14 2015 5:30am

My guess is good ol ammonium nitrate.

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Post by r3volved » Aug 14 2015 7:58am

BBC has some pretty good coverage so far: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-33924501
The warehouse that exploded in the port area is owned by a company called Ruihai Logistics, which specialises in handling hazardous goods.
The company's website says these include compressed gas, flammable liquid and toxic chemicals - some of which become highly explosive when mixed with water.
The two explosions, seconds apart, caused a fireball visible from space and a shockwave that damaged buildings within a 2km radius (1.5 miles). The second of the blasts was the equivalent of 21 tonnes of TNT.
Pretty intense

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Post by Punx0r » Aug 14 2015 9:19am

It's kinda hard to tell, but the main blast is fairly white and shoots out a shower of white hot burning metal. The whole blast could be metal, or it could just have been carried with it. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a fuel/oxidiser explosion. Immediately following that is the yellow/red fireball which indicates a good ol' explosion of hydrocarbon and air.

Apparently some of chemicals stored are capable of violently exploding if mixed with water...

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Post by Brentis » Aug 14 2015 9:47am

I've been watching coverage as facinating and horrifying as it is. The media generations 24h "unbiased" news, addiction.
An explosion felt 150km away in Beijing. Measured 3.0 on the Richter scale. Seen from space by Japanese weather satellite.
Short of nuclear detonation that was some explosion.
50+ dead? Looks like at least a couple of apartment buildings were levelled, had to be more than 50 there alone.
The Chinese wouldn't lie to us would they?

Sodium cyanide was one of the main chemicals stored there. Apparently for the mining industry.
How'd you like to breathe that in? :shock:

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Post by r3volved » Aug 14 2015 10:28am

I did see another video yesterday of the first responders. The fire started way earlier in the day (bright blue sky) and the explosion didn't happen until what looks like well into the evening (unless all the smoke and crap was what looked to be blacking out the sky). The video showed what looked to be several storage tanks (looked like and I originally thought it was a petrochemical plant) on fire or in the midst of surrounding fire.

I'm sure there was a massive evacuation before the actual detonation occurred. I expected hundreds to thousands dead and was very shocked to see only ~50 as of this morning.

One source claimed that the fire started in a shipping container on their property...I am really hoping they don't pin the original fire as caused by lithium batteries!!

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Post by Brentis » Aug 14 2015 10:43am

I bet they lost more than 50 responders! It seems that there were two major explosions, likely caused by the fire that was burning earlier. Fire sends in the responders. First explosion kills most, reinforcements sent in for the causalities and continue the fire fight. Second and biggest explosion devastates the area, causing the world shaking and kills more responders.

I pray they truly evacuated the area.
Or at least people had the common sense to get away from the burning industrial section next door.
But, that's a city of 13 million. That was a big blast of deadly chemicals. 50 dead would truly be the hand of God at work.

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Post by r3volved » Aug 14 2015 11:13am

as of this morning (per the link I posted above)
At least 56 people died and more than 720 were injured, 25 critically and 33 seriously, in the explosions late on Wednesday evening, officials said.
Twenty-one firefighters are reported to be among the dead and several more are missing. Fire crews were already at the site when the explosions took place, having been called out after reports of a container fire.
Tianjin's fire department chief Zhou Tian told reporters that more than 1,000 firefighters and 140 fire engines were at the site on Friday.
The Tianjin Port Group Company said dozens of its employees remained unaccounted for, according to Xinhua.

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Post by Punx0r » Aug 14 2015 11:29am

The fire may have started in the container port: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-33924501

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Post by dnmun » Aug 14 2015 11:33am

yes, the fire started in a container. there were several hundred firefighters working the blaze when the first explosion took place. they say 36 firefighters are missing but i suspect there are almost 50-75 port workers who were present at the location of the fire as it was happening and they were moving containers away from the fire when it exploded so expect the death toll to be over 150.they found one person still alive in the rubble overnight. no telling if he will survive though.

could be ammonium nitrate or any of multiple form of explosives or raw chemicals.

i bet after this the level of anxiety about shipping lipo by air will go up considerably, as it should.

the drone footage was very informative because you could see the location of the fire and the direction everything was blown away and it looks like there were over a thousand peugot and volkswagons burned to the frame. no telling how much value in the containers in the large covered space adjacent that was destroyed also.

thousands now homeless and it will be a major undertaking just to replace the glass windows in all those buildings so they can be occupied again. first they have to knock out all the frames and get that clear so there is no longer the risk of glass falling from above to allow the buildings to be reoccupied by the owners of the condo units and apartments.

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Post by nutnspecial » Aug 14 2015 1:54pm

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I watched that video and it was interesting until the shock wave hit- wow. And that was the smaller explosion. Looks like this is a conventional public explosion for the books.



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Post by The fingers » Aug 14 2015 2:41pm

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/08/14/c ... -376252897 :cry:
No doubt they didn't have those funny looking little hazmat placards like we do here to let the firefighters know what was inside those containers.
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Post by Hillhater » Aug 14 2015 5:50pm

The fingers wrote:http://www.aol.com/article/2015/08/14/c ... -376252897 :cry:
No doubt they didn't have those funny looking little hazmat placards like we do here to let the firefighters know what was inside those containers.
Makes me wonder how you deal with Hazmat containers when you have a huge area like that with hundred of thousands of containers to store.
Do you segregate them all together in one place ?..or separate them out around the area to minimise the "chain reaction". Effect of lots of dangerous goods all in one spot.?
...and how do first responders find out quickly what they are dealing with if they cannot get within 100 mts of the source ?
...Hazmat placards don't help much then .
A big mess .
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Post by fechter » Aug 14 2015 6:08pm

They reported there was a lot of calcium carbide stored there. CaC2 will react with water to form acetylene. I don't think it could explode like that though. Potassium nitrate might, which was also reported to be stored there.
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Post by Hillhater » Aug 14 2015 6:59pm

From the initial looks of that damage, I suspect a significant % of containerised Chinese exports via Tianjin, either will never make it ...or be seriously delayed !
Anybody waiting on a big order of batteries or motors etc ??
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Post by marty » Aug 15 2015 7:23am

How long till the 9-11 Truther idiots figure out the truth as to what what really happened?

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They already did! Warning this YouTube video maker has a issue with frock and shet words.
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Post by dnmun » Aug 15 2015 8:39am

there are satellite pictures of the explosion so you are saying they saw it from the International Space Station?

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Post by r3volved » Aug 15 2015 9:36am

I didn't hear anything about the space station...there were several satellites that picked it up across several channels.

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Post by dnmun » Aug 15 2015 9:44am

r3volved wrote:I didn't hear anything about the space station...there were several satellites that picked it up across several channels.
just kidding. these guys with their big conspiracy theories always seem to lack the ability to spell as well as think.

it was amazing to see the satellite image and how it actually expanded between frames.

now that they are not putting more water on the fire there are more fires breaking out again.

the fireman they recovered from the rubble yesterday said he was knocked down by the initial explosion and had covered his head and has no memory of the second one which rendered him unconscious for several hours and he was trapped but buried away from the most intense heat of the flames it appears. he said he was on the ground and head in the dirt.

severe burns on the areas of his face where it was exposed but his suit protected him from the heat.

if the calcium carbide was releasing the acetylene gas then the gas should be consumed as it is released into the flames imo. i think it had to be a container adjacent to the one they were fighting the fire and it overheated and reached a critical ignition temperature that set off one container and that heat then pushed the other containers to critical temperatures which set off the second explosion. jmho

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Post by The fingers » Aug 15 2015 7:13pm

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Post by r3volved » Aug 15 2015 7:17pm

The fingers wrote::shock:
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Post by Hillhater » Aug 15 2015 7:20pm

:shock: :shock: indeed !
That was one Muther of a bang ! :o
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