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Post by markz » Jan 07, 2016 7:03 pm

All the "famous" American "wanna-be tree huggers" dont seem to care at all about their own back yard.
They are fixated on "dirty" Canadian oil, posers like Leonardo DiCaprio, Neil Young and the other wanna-be's throwing their weight around.
Heck, didnt the water table around Dallas Texas be destroyed by some big oil company.
Then theirs all the frackers with tap water turning to flame. Yet those same residents still drive big gas guzzling trucks.

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Re: Unstoppable California Gas Leak

Post by LockH » Jan 13, 2016 11:53 pm

http://www.wsj.com/articles/california- ... 1452116623

Missed this bit about the Cali Gov. declaring a "state of emergency" last week. :cry:

In part:
Mr. Brown’s proclamation says the gas company must maximize its daily withdrawals of natural gas from the storage facility to lessen the amount of gas that can escape through the rupture. It also says an independent panel of medical and scientific experts will be created to review health concerns.

The declaration also calls for increased oversight of the gas industry in the state, and creates new “emergency regulations” for gas storage facility operators, including daily inspection of gas storage well heads and regular testing of safety valves in wells.
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Re: Unstoppable California Gas Leak

Post by Hillhater » Jan 14, 2016 1:58 am

From my limited understanding of this problem, more we'll head inspections and safety valves would not have prevented a deep well fracture such as this.
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Post by LockH » Jan 14, 2016 5:21 am

Hillhater wrote:From my limited understanding of this problem, more we'll head inspections and safety valves would not have prevented a deep well fracture such as this.
Hehe... Ya. The Governor commands "No More Earthquakes". (Maybe see also Briton King Canute trying to stop the tide from coming in.)
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Re: Unstoppable California Gas Leak

Post by The fingers » Jan 25, 2016 12:40 am

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Stephen Conley has flown pollution-detecting airplanes over some of the largest oil and gas fields in the nation. But never before has the UC Davis scientist encountered as much methane in the air as in recent months over suburban Los Angeles.
Over and over, Conley has flown his single-engine plane through the invisible plume billowing from an underground natural gas storage facility and into Porter Ranch to provide California air quality officials estimates of the planet-warming emissions from the leak.
On the first flight, in November, methane levels above the community jumped to 50 parts per million, so high that Conley double-checked his instruments in disbelief.
"This is probably 20 times bigger than anything else we've measured," Conley said.
In three months, one failed well at Southern California Gas Co.'s Aliso Canyon storage field has spewed more greenhouse gases than any other facility in California. At its height, the leak more than doubled the methane emissions of the entire Los Angeles Basin and surpassed what is released by all industrial activity in the state.
Experts say the release of so much methane, a fast-acting greenhouse gas many times more powerful than carbon dioxide, means that the biggest environmental consequence of the leak will be its effect in boosting global warming. Long after the leak stops and the foul odors vanish, the pulse of methane will remain in the atmosphere and its damage to the climate will go on.
State regulators and scientists studying the leak warn that the longer the gas escapes into the air, the more it will work against California's progress fighting climate change, including the target announced by Gov. Jerry Brown last year to reduce emissions of methane and other short-lived climate pollutants by 40% or more by the year 2030.
"It's really moving us in the wrong direction," said Jorn Herner, chief of research planning, administration and emissions mitigation at the state Air Resources Board.
Once the leak is stopped, air quality officials plan to complete a detailed estimate of its methane emissions using computer models and data from a network of gas analyzers on towers and buildings throughout the region. It will take months to complete an accurate measurement.
Until then, Conley's measurements, though considered rough estimates, are the best indication of the climate effects from the ongoing leak. They are taken about once a week and paid for by the gas company.
If there is any good news, it is that they show the leak rate has been declining since its peak on Nov. 28, when the well released 58,000 kilograms of methane per hour. By Thursday the rate had dropped by two-thirds to 18,400 kilograms per hour.
The utility attributed the decline to its increased withdrawals of gas from the underground reservoir, "which is helping reduce the pressure that is pushing the gas up the well and out of the leak," gas company spokeswoman Kristine Lloyd said in an email.
As a result, she said, the reservoir has gone from being 90% full before the leak to at most 37% full on Jan. 10.
The utility does not have an estimate of the amount of gas released and says it cannot complete one until after the leak has stopped.
Crews are drilling a relief well to seal off the damaged one, with work expected to be completed by late February. Earlier this month the gas company abandoned a plan to capture and burn the leaking methane after regulators raised concerns about safety and explosion risk.
The utility has pledged to make up for its harm to the climate.
Brown has ordered state officials to draft a plan for the gas company to offset the emissions by funding projects in California to curb fast-acting climate pollutants such as methane.
"Those are significant but reasonable constraints," said Gary Gero, senior advisor to Climate Action Reserve, a leading certifier of carbon offsets. He said the emissions from the leak are so great that the gas company would have difficulty finding enough certified offsets to cover them.

The utility would not otherwise be required to pay for its pollution because California's climate change regulations exempt methane leaks — even enormous ones — as "fugitive emissions" that are not subject to the state's cap-and-trade program.

So far, estimates show the leak has put out the equivalent of 2.1 million metric tons of carbon dioxide — more greenhouse gas than 440,000 cars emit in a year. Because the surge of pollution is in the form of methane, it will have a more immediate heat-trapping effect on the atmosphere.

Natural gas consists mostly of methane. Health officials say mercaptan and other odorants added to the gas are responsible for the symptoms being reported by Porter Ranch residents, including headache and nausea. The gas also contains compounds such as benzene that can increase cancer risk through long-term exposure.

State regulators and scientists monitoring methane from the leak throughout the Los Angeles region emphasized the gas is not at concentrations that pose a health or safety risk to residents.

But its fingerprint is evident far and wide, said Riley Duren, a researcher at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in La Cañada Flintridge. A network of gas-detecting instruments across the basin, including one sensor atop Mt. Wilson, has detected noticeable increases in methane levels as far away as Orange County and San Clemente Island, he said.

Duren thinks estimates gathered by airplane represent a "reasonable lower bound" and that total methane emissions from the leak could be higher.

The methane is leaking from one of 115 wells at the company's sprawling facility in the Santa Susana Mountains, which stores natural gas for use across Southern California. With a capacity of 86 billion cubic feet, it's one of the largest of more than 400 natural gas storage fields around the nation.
The incident is likely to affect regulations under development by state and federal environmental agencies to reduce methane emissions from oil and gas operations.
"This is a massive leak, but it's not altogether unexpected," said Jessika Trancik, assistant professor of energy studies at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who evaluates the climate effects of natural gas-related emissions.
That's because of a growing recognition that the nation's natural gas infrastructure is vulnerable to leaks and other failures, particularly as it ages, Trancik said.
"It's inevitable that parts of the supply infrastructure will fail, but the impacts of these kinds of events can be contained if we 6have more comprehensive monitoring and better predictions of which sites are at risk," she said.
Studies in recent years have found emissions in the industry are significantly underestimated by official inventories. Experts blame widespread leakage, with some estimating that between 2% and 4% of the natural gas in the nation escapes into the air at some point in the production, transmission and distribution system.

Companies have spent millions in recent years improving monitoring and tightening up equipment to reduce the risks to the climate and the public, said Rob Jackson, environmental scientist at Stanford University.

"One accident like this wipes out those benefits over the past year and more," said Jackson, who is studying the Aliso Canyon leak and thinks it is probably one of the largest in the last 50 years.

State officials might have more quickly understood the severity of the leak if they had measured its emissions earlier. The first aerial measurements came more than two weeks after the leak was reported by the gas company on Oct. 23. The Air Resources Board said it wasn't notified of the leak until Nov. 5.

Reports submitted to the state agency show that pilot Conley made his first attempt to measure emissions from the leak the same day, working for the advocacy group Environmental Defense Fund. But Conley was sent home.

"During the two-hour flight to the site at the northern edge of the Los Angeles metro area, EDF was dissuaded from the measurement by personnel from SoCal Gas, citing extreme danger," according to a report by the pilot. Just before reaching the facility, the environmental group ordered him to turn around, Conley said.

Conley returned two days later, under contract with the state, to complete the first successful emissions measurements.

"That's when we discovered this absurd level," Conley said.

The Air Resources Board released its first estimate of the greenhouse gas emissions nearly two weeks later, after what officials called an extensive review of the data.

The agency's Nov. 20 report found that the stricken well was boosting California's methane emissions by about 25%, underscoring "the urgency of stopping the gas leak."
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Re: Unstoppable California Gas Leak

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Re: Unstoppable California Gas Leak

Post by The fingers » Feb 05, 2016 10:09 am

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A state official outlined a plan Thursday to cap the massive Los Angeles-area gas leak by the end of next week.
Wade Crowfoot, an adviser to Gov. Jerry Brown, told residents of Porter Ranch that the final phase to intercept the ruptured well should start Monday. It is then expected to take another five days to permanently seal the Southern California Gas Co. well that began leaking in October.
The announcement at a public meeting is ahead of the company's worst-case prediction that it would be plugged by the end of the month. The well has been leaking for 15 weeks.
The blowout at the largest natural gas-storage facility in the West has uprooted thousands of residents and spewed more than 2 million tons of climate-changing methane.
Residents have complained of headaches, nausea, nosebleeds and other symptoms. Public health officials blame the woes on an odorant added to the gas and said there shouldn't be long-term health problems.
SoCalGas said it paid $50 million to try to cap the leak and relocate people through December, but it hasn't given an update since on the costs. The number of relocated families has since soared to 4,400 residents, and the company is facing more than two dozen lawsuits from residents and several public agencies.
The company was charged this week by the Los Angeles district attorney with misdemeanor criminal charges for failing to let state emergency officials know about the leak for three days after it was detected Oct. 23.
Several state agencies have ordered the company to plug the leak and are investigating its cause.
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Re: Unstoppable California Gas Leak

Post by The fingers » Feb 12, 2016 1:05 am

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/massiv ... smsnnews11 Maybe now we'll get some rain. :wink:

LOS ANGELES (AP) — A blowout at a natural gas well that gushed uncontrollably for 16 weeks and drove thousands of residents from their Los Angeles homes was plugged Thursday, a utility said.

While the well still needs to be permanently sealed with cement and inspected by state regulators, the announcement by Southern California Gas Co. marked the first time the leak has been under control since it was reported Oct. 23.

"We have temporarily controlled the natural gas flow from the leaking well and begun the process of sealing the well and permanently stopping the leak," Jimmie Cho, a SoCalGas senior vice president, said in a statement.

The leak is expected to cost the company, a division of Sempra Energy, at least $250 million, according to a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

That figure could climb much higher because it only accounts for costs of capping the well and relocating about 6,400 families. It does not include potential damages from more than two dozen lawsuits, penalties from government agencies and expenses to mitigate pollution.

If the plug holds and all goes according to plan to seal the well, the upscale Porter Ranch community in the San Fernando Valley could begin to return to normalcy after schools were closed and about 6,000 families were uprooted as they complained of headaches, nausea, nosebleeds and other symptoms as an intermittent stench wafted through the area.

Public health officials blamed their woes on an odorant added to gas so it can be detected and have said they don't expect long-term health impacts.

Vicky Walker, who lives close to the facility, said the smell was particularly strong the past few nights but wasn't noticeable Thursday afternoon.

She spent three to four nights a week in a hotel after developing a cough, but returned regularly to work from her home office. But she gained five pounds as she stayed inside as much as possible and stopped walking her dog.

"I want to get back to life as I knew it as soon as possible," Walker said. "And I hope property values don't suffer."

The leak at the largest underground gas storage reservoir in the West was declared an emergency by the governor. At its peak, the leak was estimated to contribute about a quarter of the state's climate-altering methane emissions, leading some to call it the worst environmental disaster since the 2010 BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

While the gas was invisible, its impact could be seen in half-vacant subdivisions, two shuttered schools and on the faces of angry residents who packed public meetings and community forums and demanded the Aliso Canyon storage facility be shut down.

The blowout happened in a 60-year-old well that was built to pump oil from porous rock a mile-and-a-half below the Santa Susana Mountains. After the oil ran dry in the 1970s, the field of 115 wells was reused to store natural gas.

When demand and prices were low, gas was injected at high pressure in the ground. It was piped out during cold months or to fuel gas-run electricity plants during energy spikes.

Regulators will use high-tech equipment to survey the ruptured pipe for clues about what went wrong before cement is poured into the well to permanently cap it.

Residents who voluntarily moved out will have at least a week to return to their homes after inspectors certify it is safe.

SoCalGas has paid to relocate residents in hotels, apartments and houses. Hotel dwellers will have eight days to return home and those who moved to other accommodations can stay through the end of short-term leases they signed.

In recent weeks, many people have gone home as the rate of the leak dwindled and air filters were installed in their homes.

Once the well is sealed, though, life for some may never return to normal. The incident has focused attention on the aging facility and the state is investigating the impact if it were shut down to figure out how Southern California would replace a major source of energy.

Some folks have said they don't want to move back, and many are concerned about what the incident has done to the value of their homes. The company is facing more than two dozen lawsuits, some of which seek class-action status.
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Re: Unstoppable California Gas Leak

Post by Punx0r » Feb 12, 2016 3:53 am

The fingers wrote: She spent three to four nights a week in a hotel after developing a cough, but returned regularly to work from her home office. But she gained five pounds as she stayed inside as much as possible and stopped walking her dog.
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Post by LockH » Feb 14, 2016 8:58 am

More leaking on the other side of the world (two years ago):
http://indymedia.org.au/2012/11/16/clim ... field.html
Methane is a particularly strong greenhouse gas. When vented to the atmosphere, over a period of 100 years it is 25 times as strong as carbon dioxide, but in shorter time scales such as 20 years methane can be 100 times as powerful as CO2 in it's greenhouse effect. It is often present in coal mines and in the past has been seen as a nuisance and health hazard to mining and often vented to make it safe for the mining workers.
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Re: Unstoppable California Gas Leak

Post by LockH » Feb 26, 2016 12:22 pm

"Study: California leak was top methane release in US history"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/study-califo ... 43610.html
"...107,000 tons of the powerful greenhouse gas methane...equivalent of 572,000 cars in a year...at its peak it discharged enough gas to fill a balloon the size of the 92,000-seat Rose Bowl every day... about 5 billion cubic feet escaped... pubic health officials found there was no reason residents couldn't safely return."

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Re: Unstoppable California Gas Leak

Post by The fingers » Apr 06, 2016 3:15 pm

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/01/29/port ... 12807.htmlQuote from older article; what really may have been going on. Impeach the bike hater! :twisted:
California Governor Jerry Brown declared a state of emergency, outlining the work seven state agencies are doing in response to the leak and mandating that SoCalGas “cover costs related to the natural gas leak and its response.” The latter move should appease those who’ve criticized Brown as slow to respond, perhaps, they’ve suggested, because his sister, Kathleen Brown, sits on the board of Sempra Energy, the parent company of SoCalGas (that charge is “scurrilous and irresponsible,” says a spokesman for the governor).
Local dessication: Transtation- El Evapadorio. The local warming of the atmosphere caused by the concentration of methane effectively reduced rainfall coming from the Northwest. :twisted:
As for the effects of all that climate change, it was in evidence all around us as we ascended the canyon’s side, with dry brush crackling with each gust of wind. The California drought is thought to have been deepened by human activity that led to global warming. Now, with the recent leak, Aliso Canyon was causing its own future desiccation, a sadly ironic feedback loop.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016 ... -is-right/ :twisted:
Now they want us to pay more for electricity this summer because they messed up, and threaten blackouts as the local power plants all run on what was cheap and clean burning natural gas. :twisted:

So Gerry[sic] and "sis" get theirs and ride off into the sunset together. :twisted: :twisted:
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Re: Unstoppable California Gas Leak

Post by markz » Apr 06, 2016 3:54 pm

Even more reason to go off the grid.

The company should be seized and liquated, and in the future a cash deposit for ALL companies secured for any future type operations near any town, and smaller cash deposits for farmers out in the stix. Reminds me of a scam a major corp did, railway, took out an entire Quebec town. The gov't mandatory safety is nill, more in automobiles then something that could kill 100's or 1000's or more.

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Post by LockH » Apr 06, 2016 6:51 pm

"California may see 14-day blackouts following methane leak"
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/a ... eak/66036/
Now, energy officials are announcing some areas could see prolonged blackouts this summer, the Associated Press reports.

In some places, the blackouts could last as long as 14 days.

The historic gas leak crippled a major energy supply for the region, which will strain the energy grid during the warmer months.

State officials have proposed a plan to reduce the risk of gas shortages, but likely won't be able to eliminate them altogether.
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http://abc7.com/news/new-odor-reported- ... y/1290262/ :twisted:
PORTER RANCH, LOS ANGELES (KABC) --
Just weeks after a foul-smelling natural-gas leak was capped in Porter Ranch, residents reported a smell on Wednesday that was raising concerns about a new methane release.
Residents throughout the Porter Ranch area reported a strong odor of gas from around 7 a.m. to 10 a.m. Wednesday, saying it smelled just as bad as when the Southern California Gas Co.'s Aliso Canyon storage facility developed a leak in October.
"We went to get a snack for the kids and I got hit in the face by this awful, distinct natural gas smell. It was terrible," said Porter Ranch resident Dana Ogle. "Then I drove a half mile away to my kids' school. Still smelled it there, just as strong. So I know it wasn't localized."
Southern California Gas said it had received several complaints directly and sent crews out to investigate, but they didn't find any evidence of a new leak.
"We have had crews looking at our operations, looking at sources where there might have been some kind of escape of methane and we have found nothing," said SoCal Gas spokesman Mike Mizrahi. "Whatever people are smelling, it's not coming from Aliso Canyon."
The natural gas leak from Aliso Canyon lasted about four months, until it was capped in mid-February. It was considered the largest methane leak in U.S. history and resulted in the relocation of thousands of residents into temporary housing.
SoCal Gas is facing criminal charges for alleged failure to report the leak immediately. Many residents developed a distrust of the company during the ordeal and several on Wednesday said they don't believe the company's claim that the odor was from a source other than Aliso Canyon.
Also Wednesday in Sacramento, a state bill moved forward in an Assembly committee to minimize or eliminate the use of the Aliso Canyon facility. The bill, SB380, next moves to the full state Assembly for consideration.
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https://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/217 ... rter-Ranch :( Lots of homes for sale that probably won't get sold anytime soon for what they're asking. Would be interesting to see what they were going for a year ago before the leak.
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The fingers wrote:https://www.redfin.com/neighborhood/217 ... rter-Ranch :( Lots of homes for sale that probably won't get sold anytime soon for what they're asking. Would be interesting to see what they were going for a year ago before the leak.
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Post by Dauntless » Apr 30, 2016 12:27 pm

http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/04/ ... h-concern/
markz wrote:All the "famous" American "wanna-be tree huggers". . . posers like Leonardo DiCaprio,

Heck, didnt the water table around Dallas Texas be destroyed by some big oil company.
Then theirs all the frackers with tap water turning to flame. Yet those same residents still drive big gas guzzling trucks.
Neil Percival Young was born on November 12, 1945 in Toronto, Ontario. Yes we WILL let him worry about Canada. First generation American Leonardo DiCaprio worrying about Germany and Italy moreso than places his parents don't come from? That doesn't sound bad to you? And tapwater was catching fire for close to century before there was fracking, 100% of the time. If you want to point the finger, you have to think of the direction you're pointing.
markz wrote: The company should be seized and liquated, and in the future a cash deposit for ALL companies secured for any future type operations near any town, and smaller cash deposits for farmers out in the stix.
Yeah, THAT would teach those old people to try to save for their retirement. If you're going to try to act kewl by stealing you need to think of whom you're stealing FROM.
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Ah, but don't worry. The government comes out of this happy because they get spendies out of this. That's what this 'Cap and Trade' talk means. The the government makes money on things going to hell, so they can make MORE things go to all hell. And the elderly still lose their retirements.
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Re: Unstoppable California Gas Leak

Post by Chalo » Apr 30, 2016 1:26 pm

Dauntless wrote:
markz wrote: The company should be seized and liquated, and in the future a cash deposit for ALL companies secured for any future type operations near any town, and smaller cash deposits for farmers out in the stix.
Yeah, THAT would teach those old people to try to save for their retirement. If you're going to try to act kewl by stealing you need to think of whom you're stealing FROM.
Old people can be as greedy and ignorant as anyone, and the reason that investment is allowed to make profit is because it's supposed to include risk. That can be risk of bad business decisions or risk of getting shut down for criminal negligence.

When you work for your money, it's supposed to be a sure thing. When you gamble for your money, you're supposed to face a risk of losing it. We've been getting it backwards for too long.
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Re: Unstoppable California Gas Leak

Post by Hillhater » Apr 30, 2016 8:30 pm

Chalo wrote: When you work for your money, it's supposed to be a sure thing. When you gamble for your money, you're supposed to face a risk of losing it. .
But how do you propose aged/infirm retired folk "work" for their money ?
Conventions is you save whilst you are able to work, and invest funds to support you in post work years.
The risk to your investment from this kind of industrial failure is supposed to be minimised by federal and state regulations and inspections.
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Re: Unstoppable California Gas Leak

Post by Dauntless » Apr 30, 2016 11:50 pm

Chalo wrote:Old people can be as greedy and ignorant as anyone, and the reason that investment is allowed to make profit is because it's supposed to include risk. That can be risk of bad business decisions or risk of getting shut down for criminal negligence.

When you work for your money, it's supposed to be a sure thing. When you gamble for your money, you're supposed to face a risk of losing it. We've been getting it backwards for too long.
Yeah, I saved this after you put your foot in your mouth in another thread in case you continued. https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 4#p1176614 But this is as good a place as any.

ONCE AGAIN, you prove that it is in fact YOU who are in line with Putin politics. You want to steal from everyone and leave them impoverished. Putin does. You want people dying horrible deaths. Putin makes it happen. You want the government seizing businesses. A very staple of the Putin politics that YOU visibly embrace. And don't get to live down.

Oh, working for your money isn't a sure thing when the government takes your company. Ask anyone who's ever had such a job.
Hillhater wrote: The risk to your investment from this kind of industrial failure is supposed to be minimised by federal and state regulations and inspections.
You left out 'NOT caused by the federal and state government.' But that's more often where the real risk is, although that's not much talked about.
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Re: Unstoppable California Gas Leak

Post by markz » May 01, 2016 11:21 pm

Ask Kevin Trudeau
http://abcnews.go.com/US/infomercial-ki ... d=20299051

I personally thought he was at a country club pen doing "long time", but I guess he is out-n-about doing his thang. Hopefully he aint banned from the airwaves because thats his niche. He just got too greedy.

You can look at the American scammer company that killed a few 100 in Quebec taking out a town. Delapidated trains, cut out from main company. My Canadian government would rather harrass bums then take on the rich.

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Re: Unstoppable California Gas Leak

Post by The fingers » May 13, 2016 1:18 am

http://www.dailynews.com/health/2016051 ... k-symptoms :evil:

Some Porter Ranch residents learned late Thursday that the dust samples collected in their homes more than a month ago showed evidence of metals that were consistent with those found at the natural gas well that blew out near their neighborhood last year.

Officials with the Los Angeles County Department of Health told a small group of residents at a community meeting that while they weren’t concerned with the air testing inside homes, the presence of metals could have caused the short-term health effects residents experienced, such as headaches, nausea and nosebleeds. But none of the chemicals were at levels that were of concern, said Dr. Jeffrey Gunzenhauser, interim director for the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health.
He said the health department tested for 250 particles in the dust and almost all were at normal levels.
“We didn’t find anything that would cause long-term health effects,” he said.”I don’t think the levels of metals should be a barrier to return home. We’re working now to try to work this out.”
Gunzenhauser said the presence of 13 different metals were found in 20 percent of the homes. One of which was barium.

“The presence of these metals was in the dust and this was something that we didn’t expect,” he said. “These metals should not be in the home. Metals can cause symptoms.
Health officials collected dust from window sills and the corners of floors from inside 111 homes in late March, some vacant and others occupied. In addition, about a dozen homes in Northridge were used as the control group to compare samples as well as two schools.
The public health department worked with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and professor Michael Jerrett, chairman of environmental health sciences at the UCLA Fielding School of Public Health. Jerrett began collecting outdoor air quality samples throughout the Porter Ranch community early on during the gas leak, including indoor dust swab sampling at seven homes. Benzene and hexane were found in two of the homes, health officials had said.

Public Health officials have called the massive gas leak an unprecedented event. Natural gas began leaking from one of 115 aged wells at the Aliso Canyon storage field in October, spewing tens of thousands of metric tons of methane to become the largest event of its kind in the nation. Operated by SoCalGas, the wells and the storage facility sit high up in Aliso Canyon, above residents who live in Porter Ranch.

There were reports of headaches, nosebleeds and vomiting during the leak, and at least 6,000 residents relocated. But after the leak was controlled on Feb. 11 and capped on Feb. 18, health complaints continued from residents who moved back, while some residents refuse to return until they know the results of all the health testing. Preliminary results from a door-to-door survey of more than 200 homes found that 71 percent those residents reported having headaches. Almost half had nosebleeds.
Gunzenhauser said the health department is recommending that residents have their homes cleaned of all dust.

Despite Gunzenhauser’s assurances, the presence of the metals are troubling to Matt Pakucko, a resident and co-founder of the group Save Porter Ranch who attended the meeting.
“They said that as far as indoor chemicals and air testing they didn’t find anything to be alarmed about,” Pakucko said. “But they don’t know what all those metals can do when they’re found at the same time.”
Pakucko said SoCalGas has not released a list of chemicals used when refilling the storage wells.
“We don’t know what’s in there,” he said. “There’s that big hole of data and SoCalGas will not release it. People are still getting sick. There has been little relief for me personally.”
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Re: Unstoppable California Gas Leak

Post by The fingers » Jul 07, 2016 2:18 pm

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/07/ ... t-closure/
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PORTER RANCH (CBSLA.com) — Residents who just last month returned to their homes are angry that yet another natural gas leak was discovered at the Aliso Canyon facility, where a major well leak forced them out of the community in the first place.
The newest leak was detected Saturday during a routine inspection and reported by Southern California Gas Co. to local and state authorities. The utility’s officials say the issue was quickly repaired and never presented a safety risk to the community.
But the leak, which was reported Wednesday – four days after it was detected — has renewed calls for the facility to be shut down permanently. Members of Save Porter Ranch gathered in front of the facility Thursday, calling on Gov. Jerry Brown for its permanent closure.
A major leak in a well at Porter Ranch facility, along Tampa Avenue, was discovered Oct. 23, forced hundreds of residents to temporarily move out of the area while efforts were made to contain the flow of natural gas into the air. The leaking well was blamed for a multitude of health problems, including headaches, nosebleeds, seizures and skin and breathing problems.
One protestor described experiencing headaches and suffering a severe asthma attack, while her grandson and daughter-in-law broke out in rashes over the weekend – and then later discovering on Facebook that there had been another gas leak.
“It was like déjà vu,” the woman told the protestors over a bullhorn. “I had no idea, so I didn’t know what it was.”
Save Porter Ranch board member Richard Matthews told the crowd that he is questioning why there was gas in the pipeline to leak, when the facility should not even be in operation. A moratorium on new natural gas injections at the facility was signed into law in May.
“This site is not safe. It’s been operating for way too long,” Richard Matthews, board member of Save Porter Ranch, told the protestors.
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Re: Unstoppable California Gas Leak

Post by LockH » Jul 07, 2016 3:48 pm

:cry: Man, I was so excited riding my first electric scoot... used to ride through gas stations. [ "nah-nah NAH na naaaah-nah"!] But stopped that soon because of the fumes from UNnatural gas being pumped. Gotta wonder watt it's like being a gas jockey and working there, day after day... "a multitude of health problems, including headaches, nosebleeds, seizures and skin and breathing problems." [sigh]
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