help with surron and moving to EU (France)

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help with surron and moving to EU (France)

Post by sn0wchyld » Jan 06 2020 9:49pm

Having trouble with this one - I currently have a surron registered in AUS, ie full street legal kit. From what I can tell the equivilant in france/EU is the l1E category, and where EU surrons sit, but finding out specific info on if its possible to bring my bike over and what (if any) changes/registration would be needed is proving an uphill battle.

For those who've built/had L1E bikes in France or the EU - are you able to point me in the right direction? I'm hoping that I wont have to buy one in france, as I've made some mods (mainly riding ergonomics) to my AUS bike, and im only going there for a few years so it could mean buying a bike 3 times in 3-4 years (the one I have here now, about 6m old, again one in france, then again when I get home if I sell my AUS one). Undoubtedly there'll be others on the market by then but still far from ideal vs taking my current bike with me.

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Re: help with surron and moving to EU (France)

Post by Liu » Jan 07 2020 2:12am

sn0wchyld wrote:
Jan 06 2020 9:49pm
Having trouble with this one - I currently have a surron registered in AUS, ie full street legal kit. From what I can tell the equivilant in france/EU is the l1E category, and where EU surrons sit, but finding out specific info on if its possible to bring my bike over and what (if any) changes/registration would be needed is proving an uphill battle.

For those who've built/had L1E bikes in France or the EU - are you able to point me in the right direction? I'm hoping that I wont have to buy one in france, as I've made some mods (mainly riding ergonomics) to my AUS bike, and im only going there for a few years so it could mean buying a bike 3 times in 3-4 years (the one I have here now, about 6m old, again one in france, then again when I get home if I sell my AUS one). Undoubtedly there'll be others on the market by then but still far from ideal vs taking my current bike with me.

The law of AUS is not exactly the same as in Europe. Only the L1e version of Lightbee can register in EU land.
Even if you upgrade street-legal kit,If you haven't the L1e vehicle certification, you can't legally register in France.
Where did you purchase your Light Bee? I think you can get the right direction from your dealer.

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Re: help with surron and moving to EU (France)

Post by sn0wchyld » Jan 07 2020 2:46am

Liu wrote:
Jan 07 2020 2:12am
sn0wchyld wrote:
Jan 06 2020 9:49pm
Having trouble with this one - I currently have a surron registered in AUS, ie full street legal kit. From what I can tell the equivilant in france/EU is the l1E category, and where EU surrons sit, but finding out specific info on if its possible to bring my bike over and what (if any) changes/registration would be needed is proving an uphill battle.

For those who've built/had L1E bikes in France or the EU - are you able to point me in the right direction? I'm hoping that I wont have to buy one in france, as I've made some mods (mainly riding ergonomics) to my AUS bike, and im only going there for a few years so it could mean buying a bike 3 times in 3-4 years (the one I have here now, about 6m old, again one in france, then again when I get home if I sell my AUS one). Undoubtedly there'll be others on the market by then but still far from ideal vs taking my current bike with me.

The law of AUS is not exactly the same as in Europe. Only the L1e version of Lightbee can register in EU land.
Even if you upgrade street-legal kit,If you haven't the L1e vehicle certification, you can't legally register in France.
Where did you purchase your Light Bee? I think you can get the right direction from your dealer.
purchased from the AU dealer in Australia... so doesn't sound good from what you say, even though (it appears) the bike is the same version...?

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Re: help with surron and moving to EU (France)

Post by j bjork » Jan 07 2020 3:10am

One possibility might be "moving goods" or what it might be called in English..

That at least have been a way to get cars in to Sweden that did not fit the rules.
It is when someone living in another country and moving to Sweden can take a car that they already own with them and get it registred.

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Re: help with surron and moving to EU (France)

Post by john61ct » Jan 07 2020 7:17am

Keep it registered in Oz and embark on a RTW tour, with a very long stopover in France?

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Re: help with surron and moving to EU (France)

Post by macribs » Jan 07 2020 11:30am

Tourist card if pulled over? Another legal solution is getting the bike certified by legal 3rd party institution, like the german TÜV. They will make brake test, list drive train and you might need to get a vin number. Even crazy rebuilds and mods of vehicles are possible to get street legal this way. But the cost will for sure make you sell your bike, and buy a street legal model in France for sure. Google TÜV and get in contact with them and explain your needs and check the price. I suspect it might be a lot. But at least if street legal is important for you and you can't be bothered by building a new one this could work. Me, I would just keep my insurance and title and play the tourist card whatever might come up.

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