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Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike

Posted: Aug 06 2017 7:31am
by Allex
Looks really NEAT.
Is this the bike everybody were waiting for?



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For those who do not understand chinese, download google transle phone app for real time camera translation.
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Merlins tire opinions:
241 trials I would say 50/50 street/Offroad.
Good on hard terrain. Street, rocks, normal Offroad stuff.

They suck on wet conditions (Offroad)
Muddy your totally out. Street wet is OK.
Just think about what these tires are made for... Trial stuff, no cornering needed.

244 shinkos I put them to 65/35 street/Offroad.
They are a bit heavier but not that much that you should make your decisions against them.

MX tires are
4-5/10 street... 3/10 wet street.... 9/10 Offroad, wet/muddy 10/10

Sr241/sr244
7/10 street.... 6/10 wet street..... 5/10 Offroad ,wet/muddy 2/10

244 will last longer than 241... They getting really loud after half of live time on street.
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https://world.tmall.cоm/item/552799556962.htm?#

Speeds:
The bike will do 45 mph (72km/h) with stock gearing (48T)
With the upgraded sine-wave controller it tops out at around 52 mph (83km/h)

52 tooth Sur-ron rear sprocket gives the bike a
little more grunt with minimal loss in top speed.
42 mph(67km/h) top speed vs. 45 mph (72km/h)


58 tooth Sur-ron rear sprocket adds 20% to the acceleration and hill climbing while taking the
top speed down from 45 mph (72km/h) to 38 mph (61km/h)
With the upgraded sine-wave controller it tops out at around 45 mph (72km/h)

Motomoto here on ES is the manufacture of the 55T along with the 52T and 58T
https://www.surronracingusa.com/



Spares:
https://www.aebikes.com.au/spare-parts.html

https://lunacycle.com/sur-ron-parts/

http://shop.m.jd.com/?shopId=732127

https://mall.sur-ron.com/

Belt kit is done!
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=89902&start=3175#p1451555


Controller upgrade:
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=89902&start=3100#p1444026

It looks like ERT is taking pre-orders on their plug and play ASI:
https://electricrt.com/sur-ron-upgrades/

Carbon Fiber bash guard
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=89902&start=3175#p1450957

Alu bash guard
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=89902&start=3125#p1449129

Wider footpegs:
https://surron.co.uk/collections/access ... ot-peg-kit

Pedals:
https://www.kaniwaba.com/

Custom parts:
https://ebike.ntc-tech.com/








Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 06 2017 2:46pm
by madin88
nice find Allex!
looks well thought-out with the linkage suspension and the two stage belt/chain drive.
The motor looks like the golden motor HPM3000. what do you think?

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 06 2017 5:55pm
by Dogboy1200
Love it! That thing looks cool!

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 06 2017 6:44pm
by Leeleeducati
Anyone figure out what the converted/translated USD is? Slight mods & some new components could make this very interesting. Great find!

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 06 2017 7:25pm
by amberwolf
At 50kg, it probably weighs more than the person in that picture supposedly holding it. :lol:

For a motorcycle, I guess that's pretty light, but the ad pic.... :/

I just imagine her arms severing themselves at the elbows and the motorcycle falling and crushing her legs too.

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 07 2017 2:26am
by Allex
madin88 wrote:nice find Allex!
looks well thought-out with the linkage suspension and the two stage belt/chain drive.
The motor looks like the golden motor HPM3000. what do you think?

Looks like a HPM3000 very much so!
The bike seems to be at pre-production stage. So it seems you need to deposit 2000yuan before they start to build yours?

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 07 2017 10:11am
by bionicon
What material is the frame made ?

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 07 2017 11:39am
by Allex
Aluminium

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 07 2017 5:43pm
by SlowCo
I would love to buy one with 16" or 17" wheels as a Super-Motard version! 8)

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 07 2017 5:55pm
by dirkdiggler
I like this! Looks like about $2750 for the bike. Who knows how much to ship? Wish Google could translate the characters in the pictures. Should be higher voltage than 60, but it's the style of frame I am after. Wonder if they'll sell without batteries?

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 07 2017 6:11pm
by rojitor
That girl is on steroids!
The bike looks cool. I wanna watch a video in action.

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 07 2017 9:12pm
by litespeed
I'd buy one just for the frame even if it was a turtle......looks excellent and a good start for a high power bike.

Tom

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 08 2017 2:08am
by Allex
dirkdiggler wrote:I like this! Looks like about $2750 for the bike. Who knows how much to ship? Wish Google could translate the characters in the pictures. Should be higher voltage than 60, but it's the style of frame I am after. Wonder if they'll sell without batteries?
It does translate pictures, just download the phone app.

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 08 2017 3:39pm
by dirkdiggler
Didn't catch the app you recommended. Got a bit more info from their website Sur-ron.com. I couldn't find any wattage info, which would be nice to know. Also there are a few videos on the v.qq.com. I had to search using the characters for Qiu Long.

Particularly like the pic of the girl in her fart shirt. Sorry don't have time to cut it down to size. Open in another tab to view the whole picture.
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HPM3000?

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What does it say on this image of the controller?

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 08 2017 4:21pm
by dirkdiggler
Here's the video:
https://v.qq.com/x/page/e0520v8q52a.html

Edit
Here's better quality of the video above:
http://www.bilibili.com/video/av11113435/

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 08 2017 5:40pm
by dirkdiggler

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 09 2017 2:24am
by Allex

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 09 2017 8:44am
by fechter
No pedals.

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 09 2017 3:23pm
by SlowCo
fechter wrote:No pedals.
That's the best part.
All those illegal electric motorcycles on this forum posing as electric "bicycles" by having pedals attached to fool the cops are laughable... :roll: :wink:

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 09 2017 4:25pm
by java230
This popped up in my Sur-Ron googling. Looks like this isn't the only model they make.

https://youtu.be/8etKQVm9SSM

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 09 2017 5:16pm
by dirkdiggler
They do make a "real" electric motorcycle unlike the above "bike" . Its called the white ghost. They have another good vid about that on this page:
http://www.sur-ron.com/product/angel.htm
Which I could put a direct link, but can't figure out how to do that. It shows up in the page info as http://cnimg.sur-ron.com/us/en/img/170618/f.mp4?t=2.8, but that goes to what looks like a chinese 404 page.
The video is pretty high quality and shows some impressive scenery. Doesn't look like China to me, but if so they do have some great landscapes.

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 10 2017 12:55am
by Raisedeyebrows
dirkdiggler wrote:I like this! Looks like about $2750 for the bike. Who knows how much to ship? Wish Google could translate the characters in the pictures. Should be higher voltage than 60, but it's the style of frame I am after. Wonder if they'll sell without batteries?
Wicked looking bike, any guess how much the shipping would be? Like $900.00 USD or something like that?

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 10 2017 7:04am
by SlowCo
Raisedeyebrows wrote:
dirkdiggler wrote:I like this! Looks like about $2750 for the bike. Who knows how much to ship? Wish Google could translate the characters in the pictures. Should be higher voltage than 60, but it's the style of frame I am after. Wonder if they'll sell without batteries?
Wicked looking bike, any guess how much the shipping would be? Like $900.00 USD or something like that?
Where does the $2750.- price come from? All I can find is the 2000 Yuan (appr. $280.-) on their webshop page.

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 10 2017 11:22am
by dirkdiggler
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Looks like it says 15,800 yuan ($2,372, did the exchange rate drop that fast or did I screw up?)) original price under the #1 and 14,800 is the Hair day? price, whatever that means. Granted I don't know any Chinese, so could be very, very wrong. I'm relying on google to translate for me. It does look like under #5, the bike will start shipping on August 20th. I imagine this is somewhat of a kickstarter campaign with pre-orders. That is where the 2000 yuan comes in as a deposit.

I just can't find a contact button on the web page. I tried to email them from the Sur-ron page, but never heard back.

Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike from China

Posted: Aug 10 2017 1:08pm
by madin88
some specifications of the HPM3000 motor:

7,3kg
5000rpm max
>90% eta
25/10Nm peak/continuous torque
180mm dia
125mm height

Power is rated for 2-3kW and 6kW pweak which seems to be very conservative when looking at the performance curves.