LMX 161 - The world's lightest freeride motorcycle

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LMX 161 - The world's lightest freeride motorcycle

Post by LockH » Oct 01, 2017 4:18 pm

Hehe... ESB "Search found 10 matches: +indiegogo" (in the message Subject)... Was thinking there was maybe already an indiegogo models thread...

... but now on the indiegogo site: LMX 161 - The world's lightest freeride motorcycle
("Using a state-of-the-art electric drivetrain, the street-legal LMX 161 weighs just 42kg"):
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/lmx- ... torcycle#/

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So far:
€9,166 EUR raised by 3 backers
18% of €50,000 fixed goal
a month left
On your marks... Get Set... GO! Hehe...

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They say stuff like:
High Performance

The LMX 161 is a high performance motorcycle, with acceleration comparable to a 85cc offroad motorbike. With over 300 N.m at the back wheel available from zero RPM, the LMX 161-H really takes advantage of the electric drive train characteristics.

The linkage suspension provides a progressive leverage ratio, giving the bike good suspension performance for high speed bumps and rough landings.

Quick swap battery

Ride longer using multiple batteries, or bring your battery up to your apartment for charging.
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Mon Dieu!

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Note they say too:
€4833 EUR
€6,500 (25% Off)
LMX 161 -H early bird
Get one of the first 25 LMX 161-H street legal motorcycle (Europe, L1E-B) for 4833€. Discount : 1666€ ex VAT/25% off list price. Only 15 bikes available at this price! EU customers add 966€ VAT (total price 5800€ incl VAT). Shipping and import taxes costs not included (see shipping & Imports ).
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LMX 161-H street legal
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Post by bzhwindtalker » Oct 02, 2017 1:50 am

I'm here is you have questions, I run LMX with my business partner Lucas and designed the frames.
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Post by liveforphysics » Oct 02, 2017 2:06 am

bzhwindtalker wrote:I'm here is you have questions, I run LMX with my business partner Lucas and designed the frames.
Adam

I thought it looked like your work. Nice bike and good luck on your homologation.
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Post by LockH » Oct 02, 2017 6:56 am

bzhwindtalker wrote:I'm here is you have questions, I run LMX with my business partner Lucas and designed the frames.
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Bonne chance, mes amis! (Je suis Canadien...) :mrgreen:
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Post by bzhwindtalker » Oct 10, 2017 3:15 pm

40% reached, 24 days to go !

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Post by LockH » Oct 10, 2017 6:45 pm

bzhwindtalker wrote:40% reached, 24 days to go !
Hehe... Well. Here in Alt. Reality Planet (it's Endless) we get to gamble?

So. Day Zero... (24 days to go)... I'LL say... 600% over by end-of-life...

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Post by LockH » Oct 10, 2017 9:33 pm

Watt? Nobuddy wants to bet??? OK. I'll put $20 in the pot. (Winner takes all in the pot.) :mrgreen:
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Post by bzhwindtalker » Oct 11, 2017 8:58 am

Actually campaign has been running for 10 days or so^^ but we should reach at least the 50k goal, hopefully quite a bit more :!:

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Post by LockH » Oct 11, 2017 9:08 am

^^ Hehe... "reach at least the 50k goal, hopefully quite a bit more"... Again. I bet SIX TIMES "MORE" than yer $50K "target". It's up to the denizens of ES to tear apart yer "value for money" scheme. MY only "problem"? Lost ability to balance. :cry: (But now "sold" on comfort and convenience of recumbent trikes.) :wink:
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Post by Drunkskunk » Oct 12, 2017 3:25 pm

This is awesome, and I wish you the best of luck.

Do you plan to make a version of this with Vin numbered, registerable frame? Or road legal?
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Post by LockH » Oct 12, 2017 5:11 pm

€19,964 EUR raised by 11 backers
40% of €50,000 fixed goal
23 days left
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Post by bzhwindtalker » Oct 13, 2017 6:06 am

Drunkskunk wrote:This is awesome, and I wish you the best of luck.

Do you plan to make a version of this with Vin numbered, registerable frame? Or road legal?

The bike we are crowdfunding now will be road legal for Europe. For other countries it depends, I know the EU type approval is largely based on UN recommendations.
I don't know what additional testing or certifications we may need for US market. The EU approval is a big chunk to bite already... :wink:

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Post by mistercrash » Oct 13, 2017 6:48 am

This looks like a lot of fun and if you get it road legal it will be practical too. I see a bunch of skinny little guys riding it in photos and videos. Can it support a 260 pound muscular Canadian? :D Can you ride it in the pouring rain, snow, mud?
Is it ready yet?

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Post by LockH » Oct 13, 2017 8:06 am

Hehe... "260 pound muscular" Cute "turn of phrase". I'm about a 150 pound (soaking wet) Canadien... not really used to seeing "260 pound" and "muscular" in the same sentence. Happen much? Involve much consumption of steroids? Or living out of McDonalds etc?
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Post by bzhwindtalker » Oct 16, 2017 8:32 am

LockH wrote:Hehe... "260 pound muscular" Cute "turn of phrase". I'm about a 150 pound (soaking wet) Canadien... not really used to seeing "260 pound" and "muscular" in the same sentence. Happen much? Involve much consumption of steroids? Or living out of McDonalds etc?
Fascinating.
That is not very nice!

About the rated weight,we had customers over 120kg test the bike at multiple events, and we have a 300 lbs+ ex NFL customer in the US with a 2.2 steel frame.
For the alu frame the rated max weight will be 90kg for the rider. The frame is 6061 and only 7kg or so, so we don't want to take much risks about the max load.
I often ride offoad with my GF in the back, that is 67kg me plus 56kg her plus clothes and gear. However this is different loads than an aggresive 130kg+ rider..

BTW we reached 49% :)

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Post by LockH » Oct 16, 2017 11:14 am

^^ "That is not very nice!"

Hehe... Sorry Sir! Just suggesting ya don't overlook the other 99% of the world. Us "little guys". :wink:

Currently, Indiegogo:
€24,414 EUR raised by 12 backers
49% of €50,000 fixed goal
20 days left
GO GO GO!

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Post by TheBMallory » Nov 12, 2017 12:24 pm

Hi Adam,

I was checking the tech specs from the street legal 161 and the freeride one. The electrical part looks the same to me, so the 45Km/h limitation is only done through gearing ? if so does the street legal version will have a little bit more "humpf" over the freeride version ?

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Post by LockH » Nov 12, 2017 1:55 pm

€76,118 EUR raised by 31 backers
152% of €50,000 fixed goal


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Post by Chalo » Nov 12, 2017 3:14 pm

TheBMallory wrote:I was checking the tech specs from the street legal 161 and the freeride one. The electrical part looks the same to me, so the 45Km/h limitation is only done through gearing ? if so does the street legal version will have a little bit more "humpf" over the freeride version ?
If it were my project, the difference would be controller firmware designed to electronically impose the required limits on the street legal model. That way, it could enjoy the same off the line torque and low speed climbing ability as the unrestricted model, with mechanical output wattage and/or speed limits introduced only as necessary.
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Post by bzhwindtalker » Nov 14, 2017 3:15 am

Yes the gearing and engine programming is the same and we have to install two separate ways of limiting the top speed to 45k. The advantage is to have good acceleration all the way to 45.

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Post by LockH » Nov 14, 2017 3:55 am

DANG.
€76,118 EUR raised by 31 backers
152% of €50,000 fixed goal
5 days left
Looks like I'm gonna lose my bet. [grumble grumble] (Phew... Good thing nobuddy else on ES likes to gamble... Tks to the Gawds...) :mrgreen:
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