It (really, almost any ebike) already is road legal in Arizona--just operate it at less than 20MPH.Anyway of making the R martins from china sold on Ali express road legal in U.S.
That thing isn't a e bike and not designed for that market. Hell its almost highway capable or capable depending on how brave you are.Has a 75mph top speed Its a 200-250cc equivalent maxi scooter/motorcycle. Everywhere it should be considered a motorcycle using that as a e bike would just be foolish.amberwolf wrote: ↑Jan 16, 2018 2:12 amAnyway of making the R martins from china sold on Ali express road legal in U.S.
Alternately, if you want to register the bike as a motorcycle or moped, you'd have to check what the requirements are for that in your state (usually the county/city doesn't get a say in those, unlike bicycles).
Most likely it'd have to have a manufacturer VIN and title; some places you might be able to apply for an experimental vehicle VIN, but you'd need to check that for your state.
The fact you get don't get the vehicle confiscated by police is absurd.mistercrash wrote: ↑Jan 16, 2018 12:48 pmYour opinion on what this vehicle is meant to be doesn't really matter. Here is what I learned building a scooter looking E-bike into an electric equivalent of a 200/300cc motorcycle. (performance wise) It all depends on the way the vehicle is imported into the country. Mine was imported as a bicycle into Canada so this means it has no title and can never be licensed and insured as a motorcycle. Is that vehicle you are looking at imported to the USA as a DOT approved motorcycle and does it come with a title? If not, it will be an e-bike and will have to follow any e-bike laws and regulations of your State, no matter how big and fast it is.
Because they were sold in the U.S. as fully road legal D.O.T vehicles by R Martin its actually how I found out about them. I looked up threads about the R martin after someone posted a used one they just bought. Then I found their Chinese name and looked that up. Don't get why there are no U.S. available electric maxi scooters or medium powered motorcycles. Its not a case of there being no market for 150-250 cc class vehicles because the Honda grom, Modified 125cc Honda Ruckus, 250 cc CSC cyclone all sell well.John in CR wrote: ↑Jan 17, 2018 2:14 amNot sure why you're calling it an R Martin, but what makes you think there'd be a problem. I'm sure there will be red tape paperwork hoops to jump through, but EFun scooters have been sold in the US and operated as plated motor vehicles for over a decade. In fact, the picture of then CA governor Arnold posing with several people and some electric scooters was with Amoyee Chen, the gentleman listed in the contact info on the Alibaba listing you linked.
FWIW, those scooters are running QS 273x50 motors with a built on 13" scooter rim.
boytitan wrote: ↑Jan 16, 2018 1:16 amI saw nothing but good review when their inferior bikes were sold in the U.S. so I was wondering if it would be possible to making them road legal since there is no longer a R martin dealer. For a electric vehicle the price to performance is the best i have ever seen. So this is a company with a proven track record which honestly just came to the U.S. much to early.
https://efun-ev.en.alibaba.com/product/ ... d34bK99mMx
You can't even find a 80v 80ah battery for 3k yet there are selling a entire bike at that price.
Also as you can see i live in nys so it is probably gonna be impossible.
Now I'm getting all excited hearing that. Its SUPPOSED to be true, but it can be ridiculous what they want for that mess when you do occasionally find one.ScooterMan101 wrote: ↑Jan 19, 2018 12:00 pmBut there are people who are trying to find someone to buy the non running one they have sitting in the Garage.
The places that did sell them sold them as ... Moped's , and here in California there is registration and a license plate that came along with them, Usually a one time fee of around $ 40 or so.
Not literally the way you put it, but suppose you were Bill Gates and you bought a Porsche that's not imported to the U.S. and therefore not EPA approved. So you park it in nearby Canada. But you think you're gonna get away with bringing it home with the Canadian plates and no one will be the wiser. Gates got his back 13 years later when Porsche did decide they wanted to bring that model here.amberwolf wrote: ↑Jan 22, 2018 8:26 pmDoes that mean that if an existing car manufacturer went belly up (or perhaps was bought out and taken over in such a way they no longer exist), or that company somehow loses it's EPA registration/licensing, that suddenly all the vehicles on the roads made by them are no longer registerable?
How is anything ignored?
Actually, YOU are wrong, the question is why did you bother insisting on putting your foot in your mouth? Just another example of what I was saying about dealing with bad attitudes. I said "Bureaucracy is never easy." It WILL be as I said in every state. Oops.