Safety? We got your back (ebike/escooter app)

General Discussion about large electric scooters and motorcycles and other things with no pedals.
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Safety? We got your back (ebike/escooter app)

Post by Greenriding » Nov 25 2018 8:01am

Hi guys, great to meet.

Would love to hear your feedback on this project - developing a collision prevention platform for e-scooters :D
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Post by mark5 » Nov 25 2018 8:30am

Looks more like you'd love to collect everyone's email addresses :)
That's the only info I get from looking at your webpage.
Why don't you tell us all about it here instead.

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Post by Greenriding » Nov 25 2018 8:46am

Sure, the idea is to utilize the rider phone in order to alert form hazards on your road (cars, pedestrians, bumps, cracks, etc.). We believe safety is a major issue right now and we can leapfrog the infrastructure gap in cities.

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Post by spinningmagnets » Nov 25 2018 12:16pm

Waze is already doing this.

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Post by Greenriding » Nov 25 2018 2:30pm

Not real-time, not for micromobility.
They show you reports on your road ahead, they don't prevent accidents during your ride.

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Post by mark5 » Nov 25 2018 3:11pm

Care to elaborate on what your app does and how it works to prevent accidents? Especially regarding cars & pedestrians.

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Post by Greenriding » Nov 26 2018 2:31am

Basically:
1. You mount your smartphone on the scooter handlebar
2. Open the app and capture (via smartphone camera) the road ahead
3. Computer vision and AI algorithms detect hazards (in different forms) and alert you via sound.

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Post by amberwolf » Dec 01 2018 11:08pm

How does it work under poor lighting conditions?

That's the time when many collisions happen, specifically because of the poor lighting, especially when it's low-contrast, like twilight conditions, pre-dawn, covered parking areas, under bridges / in tunnels, darkly cloudy days, rain / snow / dust storms etc?





What exactly does it do? Meaning, what kinds of hazards is it looking for, and where?

Most of the phones/etc I've seen pictures from are not very wide-angle. People have a better wide-angle vision than the cameras do, so unless there's some sort of hardware to go with it that helps widen the camera's lens angle, and then have the software deal with the distortion as necessary, the rider should have a much better view than the app/hardware does.



Exactly how is it warning the rider?

Is it *only* sound? Or is there any visual component? (does it display anything on the screen of the device at all?)

If it is a visual warning, or it has any display on screen, then it's actually a hazard itself, because it is taking the rider's eyes and attention and focus away from the things that should be focused on.

You *never* want to visually distract a rider (or driver, pedestrian, etc) from the situation they're presently in, as it takes too much time for them to re-focus on the situation again, and then to react to it.

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Post by onemorejoltwarden » Dec 26 2018 5:41pm

WAPO on growing phenomena:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... 65199d8bba

Scooter use is rising in major cities. So are trips to the emergency room.
Plus frame failures and the usual Lithium battery fires
Agree with AW, Skill and lack of distraction are the missing elements in the safety debate, unless the device disables the scoot till you stop looking at it.
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