Duyunov wheel-hub motor

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Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by skazburg » Dec 05 2017 11:07am

Hello.
I want to introduce you to a unique electric motor.
By technology, it is possible to produce electric motors and wheel-hub motor.
Please write simple short sentences to make it easier for me to translate.
https://youtu.be/VUv1vUom2Vc
This video was translated and edited by me.
Soon this technology will become widespread.
http://solargroup.pro/bwk577
Last edited by skazburg on Dec 13 2017 1:06pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by skazburg » Dec 12 2017 3:55am

Example of a test report for a modified engine
https://yadi.sk/i/cWl4Nq2l3QNr9t

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by Mobilis » Dec 12 2017 11:26am

Thank you, nice project !
I saw Nik. Fomenko (Marussia motors) on video.

It's different from Minato in Japan, or Joseph Newman in United States.
They use special magnets configurations.
But difficult to find contacts in western Europe.
There is on video, cars like 2CV Citroen, and Renault Kangoo 4X4 "AS AP" in France, where I live.
Not found any contact...
Cyclone.tw could make a middrive version for ebikes. (Taiwan)
Hope we can help.
Cheers.

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by skazburg » Dec 12 2017 12:58pm

this information still requires confirmation
was a meeting with a representative of Ilona Mask

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by skazburg » Dec 12 2017 1:01pm

Mobilis wrote:
Dec 12 2017 11:26am
Thank you, nice project !
I saw Nik. Fomenko (Marussia motors) on video.

It's different from Minato in Japan, or Joseph Newman in United States.
They use special magnets configurations.
But difficult to find contacts in western Europe.
There is on video, cars like 2CV Citroen, and Renault Kangoo 4X4 "AS AP" in France, where I live.
Not found any contact...
Cyclone.tw could make a middrive version for ebikes. (Taiwan)
Hope we can help.
Cheers.
Can we talk in skype?
there is a built-in translator

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by skazburg » Dec 13 2017 1:09pm

Looking for a business partner

Six ways to participate and earn in the project.
1. Become an investor. Buy shares of the company. Sell shares when they rise in the price or receive dividends. The minimum investment amount is $ 500. It is possible to pay by installments for 10 months.
2. Upgrade asynchronous motors in your plant and save money. Save by reducing the power consumption and improving other characteristics of the electric motor.
3. Study the project. Tell your friends. Get a percentage of the investment.
4. You rewind the burned engines. Buy a license. Get training on a new winding. Rewind electric motors on a new technology.
5. Contact with the leaders of the company. Order the calculation of the electric motor using the new technology for your equipment. Get a competitive advantage when selling your equipment.
6. Become a dealer. Sell electric motors created using the new technology.

Official site of the project
http://solargroup.pro/bwk577
Sign up and find out more
Invest and earn profit

English version of the site will be soon

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by John in CR » Dec 14 2017 12:01am

I am interest in becoming a distributor for Central America. I want purchase some of your motor wheels for testing before prepaying a bulk order. We now use hubmotors with 93%-95% peak efficiency, but they became to expensive to produce. If your motor design is as good or better, my associate and I will participate.

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by skazburg » Dec 19 2017 12:42am

We can not sell or transfer a prototypes, now.
But in advance, I can say that the first batch of bikes is expected in about a year.
And first of all, they will be sold to investors.
Details in a personal conversation, there are a lot of nuances.
I wrote you a private message

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by skazburg » Dec 19 2017 12:47am

And I have an important message.
We will soon sell the directory.
It will present some details of the technology and scheme for winding.

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by macribs » Dec 29 2017 10:59am

Aside for being a sales pitch I think this is interesting. But I also think we saw a motor just the same in another thread here on ES a year back or so, some russian tech people did an async motor. Only the videos where in russian so it was impossible to really understand what they said. I will see if I find back to that post, maybe this is the same company?

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by skazburg » Jan 01 2018 3:00am

This is very possible.
Because the technology is already about twenty years old.
Hundreds of people know about it.
There are a lot of videos in Russian.
Also there are other languages, but much less.
Now the project has 3 thousand investors (microinvestment).
Some investors, like me, are actively promoting the project.
Others are actively interested.
Soon the official website and personal office will be translated into other languages.
Then it will be easier to communicate.
But competition will also increase.

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by skazburg » Jan 01 2018 3:06am

Here's a video where the engine is compared, before rewinding and after.
https://youtu.be/tWSod2EIwRQ

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by skazburg » Jan 05 2018 2:05am

New video for those who know French
https://youtu.be/cv56jt_1Sbc

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by skazburg » Feb 14 2018 10:59am

Yesterday I asked the main developer on the webinar.
How much will the weight of the electric motor with the new design with the winding "Slavyanka", if compare with the standard at the same power?
The answer is that the weight decreases 2.5 times, approximately.
This information was unexpected for me.

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by skazburg » Apr 21 2018 8:32am

We test the equipment, set it up.
Already came several dozen common industrial electric motors, and also we test wheel hub motor.
The first tests are confirmed by the mathematical calculations of Slavyanka.

Important news.
The site and office were translated into 12 languages.
8 are already ready completely, including English.
4 will be soon.
Also you can visit webinars in English, which will launch soon.
On the webinar, you can ask questions, those who speak the language better than I do.
Also, the main developer will answer questions there.

To receive invitations to webinars, you need to register on the site.
Links for registration
http://reg.solargroup.pro/bwk577
http://solargroup.pro/bwk577
If you ask the invitation code - bwk577
Also in other languages will be news, videos and more.

Also, as a bonus, after registration, I can give you a link to a little-known Russian forum on the winding Slavyanka.
Write me a private message, after registration.
Forum, although in russian, but there are a lot of pictures, reports of rewind, and other things.
An electronic translator will help you.

Now we are preparing a room for machining.
There will be a melting furnace, CNC machines, a winding machine, and other things.
Follow the news and be the first.

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by SlowCo » Apr 21 2018 10:14am

Great developments!
I wish you all well and will follow the progress.

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by macribs » Apr 21 2018 1:48pm

I wish you the best, but frankly you first want me to register before I can view your webshop? Then you got "a secret forum"......

Well I am glad I am not a share holder in that company. Seems consensus is to make it as easy as possible to do a purchase. Not jumping trough loops to get there.

If you got some clever motor, let the world know about it. Show it off in all its glory. Don't hide behind password protected sites. You risk alienating the people that should put down the money.

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by neptronix » Apr 21 2018 9:58pm

macribs wrote:
Apr 21 2018 1:48pm
I wish you the best, but frankly you first want me to register before I can view your webshop? Then you got "a secret forum"......

Well I am glad I am not a share holder in that company. Seems consensus is to make it as easy as possible to do a purchase. Not jumping trough loops to get there.

If you got some clever motor, let the world know about it. Show it off in all its glory. Don't hide behind password protected sites. You risk alienating the people that should put down the money.
Yup.
My first major build: 8T MAC motor on a Trek 4500.
The new all-arounder: Leafmotor 1500w on a Turner O2 full suspension.
The wheelie machine: 20" Rear Magic Pie II on a Trek 4300 MTB

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by cwah » Apr 22 2018 3:45pm

Why can't we buy if it's so much better?
Help me find my stolen electric brompton: http://bit.ly/1a0vbBC and Bosch Sinus B3 http://bit.ly/1eV0WQz

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by youlik » May 02 2018 9:22pm

cwah wrote:
Apr 22 2018 3:45pm
Why can't we buy if it's so much better?
Soon you can!
The company, about which writes skazburg set himself a goal much broader than the sale of the motor-wheel. The overall goal is to promote technology winding Slavyanka. Areas of application of this technology are the widest, from industrial engines to electric transport and power tools. The effectiveness of the technology has already been proven by many experimental samples, including several types of motor-wheels, a sub-grid motor, a motor for power tool and a huge number of standard motors rewound by this technology.
At the moment, a testing laboratory is being launched and preparations are under way for the construction of a production complex for small-scale production. The investment program works for almost 1 year and is designed initially for 3 years. The owners of the technology approach the case very seriously and thoroughly.

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by macribs » May 03 2018 5:37am

youlik this is your very first post on this forum. Yet that post goes to talk about a motor nobody heard of, that no one can buy today and that already seemed sketchy do the "registered user benefits" and "hidden secret forum" by the OP in this thread.

You do realize that neither brings credibility to your post?

Yeah I am not yet a believer. To me there was too much bs by the OP to take this serious. IF this motor is real, and I do hope we can soon get more efficient motors, lighter weight motors etc by all means I would love to see such a motor. Until there is something to actually reveal such as a web store ready to sell these motor, a youtube test of one running, or anything else that could bring something solid into this thread posts like your does nothing for the benefit of the motor, the tech behind the motor, or the designer of that motor. People take such posts as spam, or worse a bait to lure peoples hard earned money away.

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by youlik » May 03 2018 3:35pm

People take such posts as spam, or worse a bait to lure peoples hard earned money away.
Start with the end.
I'm not exactly agitating anyone to part with their money. In my post there is no word on the subject, so it's not me!
I just want to explain to you what's really going on with these engines. Several different types of these engines exist and work, but all this is done, as we say - on the knee, that is, not in an industrial way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQm7lgOtoGQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpTa_U0J9_4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ1DWuhjwj8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQln2UUtSsw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD8p4oGQri0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FQWVBSuMJk
The technology company is now working to put it all on the industrial track. The time frame stated by the developer, I described in my previous post, so those who want to buy "today" or at least see the online store selling these engines can relax.
You write about faith. Belief in this case can concern only one, but quite complex factor. The advantages of this technology are obvious to those who are familiar with it, but whether the developers will be able to bring it to real industrial production - that is the question.
And finally, to remove unnecessary questions. I did not start this topic and in my opinion it has no place in the "online market" branch, but it is the prerogative of the administration of the forum.

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by macribs » May 03 2018 7:50pm

Well if this motor is real, why not try to contact one of more of the international and english language oriented e-bike websites to do a test ride. Seems there are lots of test bikes.

Maybe you guys needs to think smaller and not larger? If you ain't got the cash to start big and increase from there, well start small and do as best you can but at least get started. Electric motors are electric motors. There are some kind of magnetic field that drives the wheel. We can see the copper. Back iron and magnets should be possible to source.

Need to get money together for casting the iron part of the motor? Do a pre production sale. Either towards enthusiasts via targeted communities well kind of like you are fishing for here, but do it with open hand. Be open and honest about what you need, how much each motor will cost and try to give a correct as possible time frame. Or go straight to Kickstarter. This motor is as good as you say funding should not be your problem.


I understand you are dedicated to the cause and think highly of this motor. That is is all good and fine. Just don't do like the OP in this thread and take things to a dark place by being to hot on the throttle. His Post about some half sketchy "secret forum" who are only discovered after people have shared personal information will not work towards your goal but against your goal.

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by youlik » May 04 2018 7:54am

Back iron and magnets should be possible to source.

Let's start from the beginning. Your statement tells me you haven't grasped the essence. It's not a BLDC, it's an asynchronous motor. There are no magnets in it and, by the way, there are no brushes either. Here is in this the most the main the crux of the. If BLDC technology does not allow to produce almost nothing but motor-wheel for bicycles and scooters, the technology of "Slavyanka" allows to make any engines, except the smallest, the type of motors for computer coolers.
You write about what is privacy and some kind of OP (I don't know what it is, I assume that this is some kind of fraud). Secrecy no, here is for examples.
It's from Germany
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTyg_JGlIqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwYcyTySBH0
It's Monaco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veLP8grdxUY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNJPcSEdW2I
This Is China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVAAR65WIoY
This is a fragment from the TV program
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54tYD2j_cwQ
couple video with data
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYsVQ6UUA0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs9crnuUQKA
This video contains a bench to compare the performance of the same engine, one of which is rewound on the technology "Slavyanka". Rewounded motor on the left.
Examples of the use of motors with winding "Slavyanka".
mine electric locomotive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMp0JMGy3Oo
air compressor on rewound technology "Slavyanka" engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyBuE5uj-6w
About your OP decide for yourself.
About loyalty. You're right, I'm committed to this technology. I emphasize technology, not some separate motor, because I see the prospect of development.
About money. According to the authors of the technology, there were a number of negotiations with major investors, in particular from the US, China, etc. All these negotiations failed because of the categorical requirements of the sale of patents. The authors on this do not want to go, so they went the other way. Croudinvesting. The project attracts investments from individuals and there are no problems with financing. Everything goes according to plan. Although it requires the development, and skazburg wrote about it for you.
There is a problem with a small amount of information in English. It's temporary. It will come to this. Here I, to the best of my ability, introduce you to this technology, so ask questions-I will answer them with pleasure.

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Re: Duyunov wheel-hub motor

Post by parabellum » May 04 2018 9:07am

OP= original poster= Skazburg
All these negotiations failed because of the categorical requirements of the sale of patents
I can imagine, this special way of winding can bring some huge advantages to dumb industrial motors that work on fixed frequency (or just very crude control system) in varying load situation, but I see no evidence (not only me apparently), there is any advantage, in this “technology”, by using intelligent control systems with varying frequency and voltage/ speed algorithms.
I would imagine, available asynchronous free of patents winding schematic, is more then enough to do the job and makes the investment in some exotic patents unattractive.

macribs
, those guys just go the “special”, Russian path you and me will never understand, like I will never understand my wife, things in Russia are just made the way to only work upside down, this is not related to translation inaccuracies. It is probably the reason we do not see many Russian startups on western platforms.

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