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Re: electric trial bike

Post by bzhwindtalker » May 16, 2016 2:58 pm

Compared to other ebikes and what is acheivable. Our bikes with similar or bigger motor and 1,5x more battery weights in at 38kg and we can save another 2kg easy. 12 kg difference for moto tires and rims seems a whole lot to me.

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » May 16, 2016 3:26 pm

oset seems a fairly conservative company.. building on what works well for them in competition and what can be made available at reasonable prices for the market.. nothing really dramatic in product development, just scaling up with their riders in bike size and power.. but the frame looks pretty heavy duty with the top tube reinforcements, etc.. of course it could be made lighter but perhaps then not as strong.. do you have any back-flip footage of your bike yet?? what type of frame warranty do you offer???
bzhwindtalker wrote:Compared to other ebikes and what is achievable. Our bikes with similar or bigger motor and 1,5x more battery weights in at 38kg and we can save another 2kg easy. 12 kg difference for moto tires and rims seems a whole lot to me.
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Re: electric trial bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Jan 28, 2018 1:05 pm

Mecatecno Dragonfly T18 electric trial bike with flywheel and clutch lever comes to market.. :

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https://www.tmxnews.co.uk/news/trials/m ... t18-model/
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Re: electric trial bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Jan 28, 2018 1:31 pm

Electric trial bike world championship :

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by trazor » Jan 28, 2018 6:51 pm

efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:
Jan 28, 2018 1:05 pm
Mecatecno Dragonfly T18 electric trial bike with flywheel and clutch lever comes to market.. :

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https://www.tmxnews.co.uk/news/trials/m ... t18-model/
:shock: It's beautiful.
I would love to see near pictures of the construction. Looks so slim. A clutch in an electric trials bike makes a lot of sense to provide the instant power required for climbs.

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Jan 29, 2018 1:03 pm

trazor wrote:
Jan 28, 2018 6:51 pm
efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:
Jan 28, 2018 1:05 pm
Mecatecno Dragonfly T18 electric trial bike with flywheel and clutch lever comes to market.. :

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https://www.tmxnews.co.uk/news/trials/m ... t18-model/
:shock: It's beautiful.
I would love to see near pictures of the construction. Looks so slim. A clutch in an electric trials bike makes a lot of sense to provide the instant power required for climbs.
Electric Motion trial bike also has a clutch lever but it is electronic instead of mechanical.. their test riders requested a clutch lever early on in the product development..

and the new GasGas electric trial bike takes it a step further beyond the Dragonfly, with liquid cooling, multi speed gear box, flywheel and clutch..

the future of electric trial bikes looks very bright.. 8)
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Re: electric trial bike

Post by speedmd » Jan 29, 2018 10:34 pm

The combination of significant weight reduction, super torque of a electric motor, several reduction selections, and good sized flywheel and well behaving clutch will most likely make this a whole new level of trials performance capability.

I can see a need for better wheel-tire locks. :shock:

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by trazor » Jan 30, 2018 1:26 pm

efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:
Jan 29, 2018 1:03 pm
trazor wrote:
Jan 28, 2018 6:51 pm
efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:
Jan 28, 2018 1:05 pm
Mecatecno Dragonfly T18 electric trial bike with flywheel and clutch lever comes to market.. :

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https://www.tmxnews.co.uk/news/trials/m ... t18-model/
:shock: It's beautiful.
I would love to see near pictures of the construction. Looks so slim. A clutch in an electric trials bike makes a lot of sense to provide the instant power required for climbs.
Electric Motion trial bike also has a clutch lever but it is electronic instead of mechanical.. their test riders requested a clutch lever early on in the product development..

and the new GasGas electric trial bike takes it a step further beyond the Dragonfly, with liquid cooling, multi speed gear box, flywheel and clutch..

the future of electric trial bikes looks very bright.. 8)
Interesting to hear that Electric Motion has an electronic clutch. How does it work? It is like another hall sensor or pot mixing negatively with the throttle signal? It is a servo actioning a mechanic clutch? How does it feel in contrast to a old school clutch?

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Jan 30, 2018 1:49 pm

trazor wrote:
Jan 30, 2018 1:26 pm
efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:
Jan 29, 2018 1:03 pm
trazor wrote:
Jan 28, 2018 6:51 pm
efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:
Jan 28, 2018 1:05 pm
Mecatecno Dragonfly T18 electric trial bike with flywheel and clutch lever comes to market.. :

Image

https://www.tmxnews.co.uk/news/trials/m ... t18-model/
:shock: It's beautiful.
I would love to see near pictures of the construction. Looks so slim. A clutch in an electric trials bike makes a lot of sense to provide the instant power required for climbs.
Electric Motion trial bike also has a clutch lever but it is electronic instead of mechanical.. their test riders requested a clutch lever early on in the product development..

and the new GasGas electric trial bike takes it a step further beyond the Dragonfly, with liquid cooling, multi speed gear box, flywheel and clutch..

the future of electric trial bikes looks very bright.. 8)
Interesting to hear that Electric Motion has an electronic clutch. How does it work? It is like another hall sensor or pot mixing negatively with the throttle signal? It is a servo actioning a mechanic clutch? How does it feel in contrast to a old school clutch?
I'm not certain how the electric motion clutch lever functions but it is not mechanical at all, its like an electronic anti-throttle lever.. electric motion has some videos on YouTube describing the clutch lever function (in french) but unfortunately, although I can read in a few different languages, my ear is not that great to translate the video.. but the Dragonfly using the flywheel probably has more punch from standstill..
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Re: electric trial bike

Post by John in CR » Jan 31, 2018 8:50 pm

I'd like to have a mechanical clutch, but I see no need for a flywheel. You guys are too accustomed to low power.

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by speedmd » Jan 31, 2018 10:19 pm

I see no need for a flywheel
Certainly not if the rotor has a major amount of mass, you would have one already built in. Something with a rotor skeletonized like a Joby would possibly improve with the addition of some rotational mass when bumping the clutch. It may be best when attempting vertical launches to opt for lower bike weight overall however. Will be interesting to see how this develops.

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by John in CR » Feb 01, 2018 8:08 am

Once you forget about batteries, everything a gas motor can do an electric motor can do much better, because it's torque curve is so much wider with max torque from zero. Feel and precise control over torque delivery is where I'd like a clutch. Of course that's coming from someone yet to try an expensive good FOC controller with torque throttle. Put half of flywheel mass into more motor and I'm sure you'd be better off unless you're still way under-powered.

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Feb 07, 2018 11:31 am

GasGas TXE electric gear drive, electric trial bike comes to market :

"GasGas presents the new TXE, the first and only electric trial bike with mechanical clutch and six-speed gear box. The dream of riding the TrialE Cup winner bike has become a reality for the most expert fans of this discipline. They will now be able to make the innovative electric trial bike from Torrot’s off-road subsidiary their very own from next July 2018.."

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Feb 22, 2018 12:52 pm

2018 Kuberg Challenger electric trial bike coming to market:).. 20" and 24" wheel versions now available for pre-order..

2018 Kuberg Freeerider available in 20" and 24" wheel versions:)..

"NEW UPDATED PRICES ON 2018 KUBERG ELECTRIC MOTORCYCLES :

FREERIDER MODELS

KUBERG FREERIDER PRO 20 - £4160.00
KUBERG FREERIDER PRO 24 - £ 4325.00

NEW FOR 2018 KUBERG CHALLENGER MODEL

PRE ORDERS BEING TAKEN NOW
KUBERG CHALLENGER 20 - £3925.00
KUBERG CHALLENGER 24- £4080.00
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