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Re: electric trial bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Jun 03 2018 2:48pm

Kuberg Challenger :

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Jun 07 2018 5:05pm

Muted Electric
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Re: electric trial bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Jul 04 2018 4:57pm

On Racing E-Trial Motorbike electric prototype wins E-Trial championship of Spain

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by John in CR » Jul 04 2018 10:19pm

When are the trials guys going to learn to put a small hubby in the front wheel too? In that kind of riding there's no doubt that 2wd can be a benefit, and electric is the only way to accomplish truly useful 2wd with little added weight.

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Jul 19 2018 12:48pm

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Jul 19 2018 1:03pm

John in CR wrote:
Jul 04 2018 10:19pm
When are the trials guys going to learn to put a small hubby in the front wheel too? In that kind of riding there's no doubt that 2wd can be a benefit, and electric is the only way to accomplish truly useful 2wd with little added weight.
Dougie Lampkin utilized a front hub motor for his wheelie distance challange on the la mans race course by using the front wheel rotational movement to help balance the bike over the long distance wheelie attempt..



and Italian electric motorcycle brand Armotia uses a front hub motor on their AWD Duo electric motorcycle ..

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Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Jul 19 2018 1:20pm

Electric Motion debuts E-Pure prototype electric trials motorcycle at Trial-E championship .. :

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by brumbrum » Jul 19 2018 2:44pm

John in CR wrote:
Jul 04 2018 10:19pm
When are the trials guys going to learn to put a small hubby in the front wheel too? In that kind of riding there's no doubt that 2wd can be a benefit, and electric is the only way to accomplish truly useful 2wd with little added weight.
Chain drive rear, geared freewheeling hub on front and a throttle on each handlebar side for independent control. This would also make for great mx racing... Push into corners with rear motor and pull out with front motor. nice!
My NYX and cromotor build
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Re: electric trial bike

Post by John in CR » Jul 20 2018 10:03pm

brumbrum wrote:
Jul 19 2018 2:44pm
John in CR wrote:
Jul 04 2018 10:19pm
When are the trials guys going to learn to put a small hubby in the front wheel too? In that kind of riding there's no doubt that 2wd can be a benefit, and electric is the only way to accomplish truly useful 2wd with little added weight.
Chain drive rear, geared freewheeling hub on front and a throttle on each handlebar side for independent control. This would also make for great mx racing... Push into corners with rear motor and pull out with front motor. nice!
I'll be launching my first 2wd next weed, just finishing up the wiring and battery mount, something I've wanted to try for years now. I'm not sure about the need for separate throttles, though I can kinda see the need when the front wheel goes airborne, but that should properly be handled by software. 2wd has been the holy grail of ICE moto manufacturers but it's so easy with electric. In my case, solely for street riding, I just want the extra traction, and the extra power afforded by double the cooling. I'm starting with 7kw up front and 17kw rear as the power allocation, and see how it goes.

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by skeetab5780 » Jul 26 2018 8:08am

Wont have to worry about the front wheel being off the ground when it weighs 50lbs more!

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Jul 30 2018 1:33pm

GasGasTXE wins Trial E world championship in Belgium :

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by skeetab5780 » Jul 30 2018 1:49pm

That thing is sweet! sounds cool too wonder how fast that motor is spinning in there.

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by maitilupas » Sep 22 2018 1:53pm

i do think there is not even comparation EM and GASgas or yamaha ....
they really develop and use the best and EM still uses 3rd party Chinese stuff.. like the golden motor.. please...

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by maitilupas » Sep 22 2018 1:55pm

skeetab5780 wrote:
Jul 26 2018 8:08am
Wont have to worry about the front wheel being off the ground when it weighs 50lbs more!
let me tell you if you ride a trials bike with no weight you cant do most of the stuff, you always need weight , stability rigidy , special in trials forget about launching like a rocket from a rock to another rock with 30 kgs , you will miss all the stability in such a bike,..tires, rims , suspensions, chains, frame ...

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Sep 22 2018 11:59pm

maitilupas wrote:
Sep 22 2018 1:53pm
i do think there is not even comparation EM and GASgas or yamaha ....
they really develop and use the best and EM still uses 3rd party Chinese stuff.. like the golden motor.. please...
gasgas uses a petrol bike with torrot electronics crammed in, not exactly revolutionary imo.. and Yamaha is a huge company with massive R&D budget but their etrial is not yet available on market.. some 2019 electric motion models have a new motor, controller, etc.. and Electric Motion Epure prototype is said to have the power equivalent of a 300cc 2stroke according to test riders, and has a patented "electro magnetic controlled clutch" ..
(so where are the gasgas patents;)

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Electric Motion Epure presentation :


http://www.trial-club.com/webzine-trial ... sentation/

https://moto-station.com/moto-verte/aut ... ion/398180
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Re: electric trial bike

Post by mxs » Oct 14 2018 11:23am

Anyone has seen Kuberg Challenger in flesh? .... Or at least a video, other than the promotional one or unboxing one. Real trial riding terrain.

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by maitilupas » Oct 15 2018 6:24am

efMX Trials Electric Freeride wrote:
Sep 22 2018 11:59pm
maitilupas wrote:
Sep 22 2018 1:53pm
i do think there is not even comparation EM and GASgas or yamaha ....
they really develop and use the best and EM still uses 3rd party Chinese stuff.. like the golden motor.. please...
gasgas uses a petrol bike with torrot electronics crammed in, not exactly revolutionary imo.. and Yamaha is a huge company with massive R&D budget but their etrial is not yet available on market.. some 2019 electric motion models have a new motor, controller, etc.. and Electric Motion Epure prototype is said to have the power equivalent of a 300cc 2stroke according to test riders, and has a patented "electro magnetic controlled clutch" ..
(so where are the gasgas patents;)

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Electric Motion Epure presentation :


http://www.trial-club.com/webzine-trial ... sentation/

https://moto-station.com/moto-verte/aut ... ion/398180
the new EM looks more appealing

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by maitilupas » Oct 15 2018 6:27am

mxs wrote:
Oct 14 2018 11:23am
Anyone has seen Kuberg Challenger in flesh? .... Or at least a video, other than the promotional one or unboxing one. Real trial riding terrain.
Didn't but it suggests that it will bounce you out of the bike pretty easy, its a crooked design for a trials bike..

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by mxs » Oct 15 2018 6:32am

maitilupas wrote:
Oct 15 2018 6:27am
mxs wrote:
Oct 14 2018 11:23am
Anyone has seen Kuberg Challenger in flesh? .... Or at least a video, other than the promotional one or unboxing one. Real trial riding terrain.
Didn't but it suggests that it will bounce you out of the bike pretty easy, its a crooked design for a trials bike..
Can you pls elaborate what gives you such an impression, especially if you have not seen or ridden the bike?

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by maitilupas » Oct 15 2018 6:38am

I have seen it.
frame is not what years and years of trial bike riders and engineers developed, ie: distance from rear wheel to the frame is nothing , looks stupid as most of Kuberg bad design bikes
Also wheels... whats that? teenager bike for adults , but why the big frame distance to the ground than? out of gravity there no? 14 inch rear wheel and 20 inch wheel front ??

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by mxs » Oct 15 2018 6:44am

I see now what you meant.

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by DanGT86 » Oct 17 2018 9:14am

Does anyone know of resources to learn about moto trials bikes in general?

I would love to understand the specifics of trials bike frame geometry and how it differs from mx bike geometry. Same goes for suspension. what are common measurements and weights of trials forks? How are they setup regarding compression and rebound dampening compared to an MX bike? There are maybe 2 trials bikes in my town and one is a display at a museum. I can get close to it with a tape measure but that's about it?

Are there any good Youtube channels or websites with basic overviews of trials bikes?

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Oct 17 2018 11:59am

DanGT86 wrote:
Oct 17 2018 9:14am
Does anyone know of resources to learn about moto trials bikes in general?

I would love to understand the specifics of trials bike frame geometry and how it differs from mx bike geometry. Same goes for suspension. what are common measurements and weights of trials forks? How are they setup regarding compression and rebound dampening compared to an MX bike? There are maybe 2 trials bikes in my town and one is a display at a museum. I can get close to it with a tape measure but that's about it?

Are there any good Youtube channels or websites with basic overviews of trials bikes?
Trials Training Center
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Re: electric trial bike

Post by DanGT86 » Oct 17 2018 12:12pm

Interesting. Only 6 hour drive from my house too. Thanks.

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Re: electric trial bike

Post by efMX Trials Electric Freeride » Oct 17 2018 12:25pm

DanGT86 wrote:
Oct 17 2018 12:12pm
Interesting. Only 6 hour drive from my house too. Thanks.
Trials Training Center also hosts world class level hard enduro and trials events .. who knows you could possibly get trials and enduro training from Graham Jarvis ..
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