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Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 04 2009 1:17am

Caution: Gas vehicles...

This is just for those thinking of a next life as steampunk.

A Flickr "group" w/pics of very early 20th century motorcycles (styling):
http://www.flickr.com/groups/846193@N24/pool/

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evmotorcycle.org · Post by **evmotorcycle.org** » Jan 04 2009 5:13pm

Beautifully crafted machines! I must admit that I am finding this whole Steampunk thing VERY interesting. Perhaps a Steampunk styled EVMOTORCYCLE is on the cards!! >:)

evmotorcycle.org · Post by **evmotorcycle.org** » Jan 10 2009 1:02pm

Then there will have to be a new style made, where function IS the design. Motor, controller, fuses, bus bars, cables all making up the form of the bike with possible elements of Steam Punk influencing the overall look.

Post by **Miles** » Jan 12 2009 4:19pm

Lots of good pics here:

http://www.motorarchive.com/
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattl ... cindex.htm
http://www.autocycles.co.uk/

Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 14 2009 11:16am

Maybe I lack the imagination for "Steam Punk"... But most of what I've seen is fluff or window dressing on a functional device...

Ya, OK, maybe steampunk was the wrong word <smile>... "Retro" maybe...

The bikes pictured are classic styling for the turn of the last century, and functional... It's when you start to take a useful design and degrade it simply for esthetics that I have to shake my head...

Well, can't agree here unless you agree that esthetics can be incorporated without degrading "things"... and it's "esthetics" where we shine as humans (well, *some* of us shine <wink>)

It's like the diff. between a new building designed by engineers and contractors without input from architects?

Found another Flickr photostream that's got "retro" bits:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/metric/set ... 336680669/
Stuff like:

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Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 14 2009 12:56pm

Miles wrote:Lots of good pics here:
http://www.motorarchive.com/
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattl ... cindex.htm
http://www.autocycles.co.uk/

TKS Miles. Wonderful stuff eg
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattl ... rc0220.htm

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"The Cyc-Auto has an important place in British motor cycle history because it was the original autocycle. The road taxation system in Britain after the Great War did not encourage the production of really lightweight machines like those produced on the Continent. It was only after Philip Snowden's Budget of 1931, which introduced a tax concession for machines under 100cc, that it became worthwhile to produce a motorised bicycle. Mr Wallington Butt's Cyc-Auto was the first on the scene."
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Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 14 2009 4:18pm

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Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 14 2009 4:42pm

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This *is* electric, right?

Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 15 2009 9:55pm

1898 Leon Bollee 3.25HP 3-Seater Tandum

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1897

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Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 16 2009 12:23am

Circa 1890 electric:

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Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 16 2009 12:40am

1937 Airomobile
Following the closure of the Franklin Automobile Company in 1934, former Franklin engineers Carl Doman and Edward Marks organized their own firm to develop a new air-cooled engine. Paul Lewis of Denver, Colorado conceived the idea for this futuristic car in the early 1930's and in 1936, contracted with Doman and Marks to build a prototype. Working with an aerodynamically styled model created by John Tjaarda, designer of the Lincoln Zephyr, construncted began on the unusual three-wheeled front-drive Airomobile and it was pronounced road-ready in April, 1937. THe Airomobile prototype dispalyed here was driven more than 45,000 miles throughout the United States in a promotional effort to raise production capital. While the Airomobile proved itself a technical success by performing credibly at speeds of up to 80 mph and averaging 43.6 miles per gallon of fuel. financial backing was not forthcoming.

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Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 16 2009 1:24am

L'Oeuf or "The Egg" by Arzens. He used this car from 1942 to the 1980s. 1 cylinder 125cc 5.5hp max 80 kph.

Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 16 2009 1:51am

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speaking of Arzens, his La baleine... 17 hp, 160 km/hr:

Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 16 2009 2:44am

That's hot. I'd forgotten Messerschmidt made some Tigers w/4-wheels...

Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 16 2009 3:42am

Not kiddin' about the hotness eh?
eBay second-hand Buy-Now Price only US $799.99:
http://tinyurl.com/Messerschmitt
kidding. Thats just for an old toy miniature copy

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The originals were powered near 20kW w/kerb weights 660-800+lbs. Guessing a Lithium pack would give a Tiger conversion huge range.

gogo · Post by **gogo** » Jan 16 2009 6:56am

Wow, that's a great site FrankG. Gotta love the internet.

Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 21 2009 7:48pm

Model of how some early electrics were built as "solenoid engines" after steam designs:

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from YouTube here:

Model of the electric "motor" built by Charles Grafton Page in 1838!:

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mascobe on youtube models some tiny (brass?whatever) solenoid motors that could serve in steampunk costume, weapons AND VEHICLES no problem

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http://ca.youtube.com/profile?user=mascobe&view=videos

These solenoids aren't especially efficient but the "reciprocating" sounds some of `em make is pretty fun too.

...just a note to any steampunks or wannabes that might be alongside ES

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Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 21 2009 8:39pm

hehe... it's just that so much of the tech I see the punks playing with reminds me of projects on ES <HA!>
Sure they are "steam" but electrics (EVs) are totally steam age!
I just think some of em look EV friendly in a road warrior sorta way...

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Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 21 2009 9:19pm

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Many EV ppl on ES are real gearheads. I mean that only in the nicest way

Steampunks drip w/costume made using gears

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...and seems ya really need a set of googles... here's goggles with gears

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Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 22 2009 12:20am

I know this EV has come up on ES elsewhere but I throw it in here just for completeness, and cause these are some of the better pics I've seen:
http://steampunkworkshop.com/steampunk-motorbike.shtml

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Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 22 2009 12:33am

OTOH maybe better to have a stealth EV and not attract a lot of unwanted attention

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thomas · Post by **thomas** » Jan 22 2009 10:21am

looks like something from a Jules Verne book

evmotorcycle.org · Post by **evmotorcycle.org** » Jan 22 2009 11:28am

They are great! Gotta love the Whirlygig! OhÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ and the ladies! >:)

michaelplogue · Post by **michaelplogue** » Jan 22 2009 4:37pm

I love the Messerschmidt KR200's - three wheeled so it can be classified as a motorcycle, yet enclosed with a passenger seat. I'm seriously thinking that this may be my next e-project. I found a company in England that makes complete reproduction kits so you wouldn't need to find an original for modification.

By using Headway type cells, I've figured that I could get at least 9600 w/h worth of batteries (48V 200AH or 72V 100AH) in the main cabin while keeping the rear seat. Without the back seat that could be easily doubled.

Lock · Post by **Lock** » Jan 22 2009 6:53pm

michaelplogue wrote:I love the Messerschmidt KR200's

Sweet.
Not steam but as I understand it totally steampunk. Ya might have to install port-starboard kerosene running lights and a couple of bit of brass but as "Captain Nemos personal Land Yacht" (submersible too of course) you would only need some costume. Some steampunk are pirate and some air pilots etc so the Messerschmidts are totally .... well, I suspect a good fit <grin>

What evmotorcycle.org said "OhÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ and the ladies! >:)"
Point is, women are totally into the steampunk scene. Much more than say... the EV scene? <hehe>
Ya know, if you respect a woman that knows how to handle tools and pitchs in

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