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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by tomjasz » Mar 31 2022 8:22am

I’m cash poor but parts rich. If there’s a fund I’ll donate an EM3EV 12FET controller. Black version for a reasonable donation.
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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by neptronix » Mar 31 2022 9:26am

Thank you for your offer. I know you guys want to give back and we will revisit the idea of an organized fund in the future, and on another thread.


Right now, the best you could do is buy something from grin. Grin pays for a majority of the forum upkeep and asks for nothing in return, and has never even nudged in the direction of influencing content here. Our community could not ask to be in better hands. They're the ultimate reason ES is still commercial influence free and operated by people who are passionate about our topic.


The second best thing you can do is help me out by offering constructive criticism and your perspective as we start showing demos of our new wiki software and forum software. I often do not get good feedback and end up guessing what the community wants. I eventually do something a part of the community doesn't want and get hammered for it. This is not a good situation for me, i want to make sure i am hitting on what people want. Receiving verbal abuse drains my battery. :lowbatt:

In order to aid me getting good feedback, i am putting together some tools that let me rapidly mock up what i'm talking about doing. I'm hoping that providing a visual instead of a verbal on nebulous ideas will get me good feedback. I want good feedback that much.

I don't want money. I want a thriving forum. Good feedback and notes of appreciation are the ideal currencies to exchange with me.


Third best thing you can do is donate beer money, computer parts, or ebike parts to all other members of staff who help make the sphere turn. Appreciation works too. :)
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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by mxlemming » Mar 31 2022 7:27pm

Hope this is constructive feedback.

I'm relatively young, but i really like the old style of forum. The reason is, the worldwide trend towards low content density really grinds my gears. The esk8 forum for example, has about 3 words per page and information is utterly unfindable. To be fair, it's probably a good match for anyone who thinks it's clever to ride a3kW teatray on the sidewalk.

ES by contrast is so much easier for me. The text is a sensible (small) size, there's a lot of topics and posts per page, the colours are plain and easily differentiable.

Actually for me, the only substantial issue with it is the searchability and I'm not even sure that problem is soluble.

There are small things I might change, like eliminating the long obnoxious, space consuming signatures. Allow people 2 lines max.

Another thing I love is that we can edit pages months even years later. This is mainly used for the good, for example i vaguely try to categorise my threads on the first post and I like to update/edit factual information so that anyone who reads it doesn't have to trawl the next 20 posts to set if it was correct.
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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by neptronix » Mar 31 2022 7:49pm

Don't worry dude, i'm a high density guy myself. I only pitched the font size up on this forum because us guys with 1440p monitors would be screaming for mercy otherwise. :lol:

This is what my eyes love ( so that you know the extent of my design bias ):
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Xenforo does include a lot of non-useful screen output that's already tuned out of the new design. I also have sliced and diced padding like crazy. I have a roughly equivalent density in xenforo as here. I'm pretty sure you'll like it, but you should go and preview it once that's ready.

The search function on xenforo is miles better. We also bought the advanced search system on top of the already good xenforo search.

Dunno about allowing editing of a page months down the road, unless we have an edit history like we used to have. Fingers crossed we have a way to do it in xenforo just like ES as of 2011.
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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by thorlancaster328 » Apr 01 2022 11:31am

If the XenForo software proves too ugly, it shouldn't be too hard to either make a userscript that alters the CSS or alter it at the server level.

It would be nice if there was a test forum for users to give feedback on / play with.
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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by nicobie » Apr 01 2022 3:11pm

thorlancaster328 wrote:
Apr 01 2022 11:31am

It would be nice if there was a test forum for users to give feedback on / play with.
I believe one is coming pretty soon. 👍👍
Ask for it by name.

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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by neptronix » Apr 01 2022 6:41pm

I do have a nice hook for overriding CSS at the top of the CSS hierarchy already. Been able to make all the modifications without touching the HTML template, as i did with phpBB. So whatever new look we end up with should be pretty durable through successive upgrades :thumb:

I'll get you guys a tester as soon as i get a moment to fix those colors.
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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by calab » Apr 17 2022 11:56pm

Lets keep it free of ads, which is the goal.

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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by neptronix » Apr 18 2022 7:31pm

Of course!


BTW, i am clearing my own personal backlog ( things have been mindblowingly insane ) and have one member of the ES team working on the new knowledgebase system, and i plan to have him work with me to tag team this conversion.

I also have someone else possibly coming onto the ES team, and this may be a triple or double tag team, which would mean it'd get done a LOT sooner. Cross your fingers.
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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by nicobie » Apr 18 2022 11:07pm

🤞

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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by neptronix » May 16 2022 12:32pm

Some foundational decisions about the aesthetic ( currently up for debate ) will be made by June 15th.
More on that later.

But so far, this is what ES 2.0 would look like if launched today:
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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by amberwolf » May 16 2022 1:01pm

What do threads look like when reading them?

And pages like the Subscriptions (or wahtever it is called now) page?
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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by neptronix » May 16 2022 1:36pm

Not all too different.

The colors on those pages are a bit inconsistent, the padding also needs tuning, but you get the general idea.
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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by neptronix » May 16 2022 1:40pm

Forgot one last thing..
In xenforo, if you click an image in a post, you get a fullscreen version gallery instead of a click into nowhere.
Nice!
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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by amberwolf » May 16 2022 2:49pm

I thought I'd asked this already, but cant find my post (or any answer):

Does middle-clicking (or ctrl-left-clicking) on a link, picture, thread, etc. still open that in a new tab (for browsers that already normally do this for the existing PHPBB ES)? I ask because it's the only useful way I've found of using the forum, especially when going thru new posts to help people with stuff.
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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by neptronix » May 16 2022 2:55pm

it works that way, yup.
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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by nicobie » May 16 2022 3:53pm

Looks nice
Ask for it by name.

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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by neptronix » May 16 2022 7:58pm

Thanks dude. I'm gonna hold off on perfecting it until the 15th.
See you next month when we have more concrete plans.
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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by neptronix » Jul 21 2022 8:01pm

Just an update..

We have all the bugs squashed out of the Xenforo conversion that we know of except one, which is probably getting fixed in a day.
I have time, and we have a team to do the transition.

Once we have things to 100%, we'll be giving a forum a taste test of the new sauce and submit it for feedback before the big red button is pressed. :mrgreen:

We think that the look is good but would like to improve on it later, maybe in a year once everyone's eyeballs have adjusted to change. :mrgreen:

You'll hear from us pretty soon.
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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by neptronix » Aug 02 2022 7:35pm

Okay, CSS round 2 finished, there's still a couple rough edges but we can adjust after the fact.

Sent to the moderator team for review. The public is next. :bolt:
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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by neptronix » Aug 23 2022 1:39pm

Okay, because my work load never seems to really die down..
I am going to hand this conversion over to a member of the team here and be his backup.

We're going to do one last rehearsal, and that will provide the member level preview and generate a step-by-step playbook for the final conversion so that we're very confident about hitting the big red button.

Stay tuned for the member preview.


Also one great thing about i didn't notice xenforo is that it shows little thumbnails when the user is not logged in.. that means that users visiting without accounts actually get to see images, but not abuse our bandwidth by hotlinking etc.. very smart design :)
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Re: Move to XenForo software

Post by nicobie » Aug 23 2022 2:14pm

Yes, that is clever.

Can't wait!
Ask for it by name.

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