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Re: Damn Spam posts!

Post by marty » Jan 29 2012 10:40am

Ykick wrote:That was a doozy last night! Focker hit 33 posts or more before somebody shut him down.

Pardon my ignorance but can somebody explain what is the point of this spam? It seems to be gibberish and I don't understand how members would think clicking on the BS links would be a good idea? Do spammers get money for returning in search engines or something?

I know another PHP board recently cut back on forum topics visible to guests due to spam. Is that a valid method to help deal with it? I'll piss on a spark plug if it will help, just lemme know what I can do?

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Re: Damn Spam posts!

Post by Ykick » Jan 29 2012 11:02am

Thanks Marty,

So, if the links are disposed of quickly enough does that thwart any potential to be picked up by search engines? I guess that all depends on the timing of search engine refreshed data?

What a mess...
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Re: Damn Spam posts!

Post by Arlo1 » Jan 29 2012 12:43pm

marty wrote: Think that most of you guys are over 80? Sad to say but you all are going to die :(
Don't worry buddy. Im going to be around a while... Im only 32 Well maybe I'll be around a while.... I have a feeling colossus is going to be rediculious and faster then some predict and once I get it running I might not last much longer but what a way to go. :)
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Post by Arlo1 » Jan 29 2012 4:10pm

Anyways Gwhy has it right i think and dont worry about making it to hard for newbs to join just have a thing explaining why... If they are to lazy to get a membership then they are likely to lazy to build an ev! But hurry guys its getting realy bad!!! BTY if you want to make me a mod I will help when I can...?
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Re: Damn Spam posts!

Post by www.recumbents.com » Jan 29 2012 4:21pm

Many times spammers are repeat offenders and you can block them by IP. I'm sure the forum can log IPs. If it can there may be a mod available to disallow IP addresses or IP ranges. Or a php programmer could add code to the signup page that disallowed an IP address or range.

Here it is:

In the phpBB control panel:
User Admin > Ban Control > Ban one or more IP addresses or hostnames

Just add the user's full IP address (format 111.222.333.444) and hit Submit. You can get the user's IP address by clicking IP on their latest post.

Also I saw:

There's numerous mods available on phpbb's site to prevent spam. The most effective one is the one that asks a question, impossible for a bot to circumvent. The poster was getting about 2 or 3 spam registrants a day and tried many of the mods but since installing that one have had 0 spam registrants in about 6 months or longer.

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WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Post by o00scorpion00o » Jan 29 2012 4:24pm

Seriously it's getting annoying!

I saw something I don't ever want to see here again yesterday!!!
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Re: Damn Spam posts!

Post by ninjamik » Jan 29 2012 4:27pm

so just to alert the moderators...

there is a new spam bot-producing threads now..its all over the board index as the most recent poster in lots of threads also has its own..

the user is called..pozcyseo..

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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Post by Miles » Jan 29 2012 4:38pm

We're doing our best to combat it!

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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Post by neptronix » Jan 29 2012 4:43pm

It's been pretty bad lately.
I'm a little shocked no basic PHP script / plugin has been written to combat this in all the years of vBulletin development.
A pretty simple algorithm would smack down over 1/2 the spam we see here. The patterns are quite obvious.

ES Mods, if you cry uncle over the spam, let me know. I do believe i have a partial solution in mind. I write PHP for a living. Send me a PM if you'd like help.
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Post by gestalt » Jan 29 2012 4:45pm

Mayhaps there is some ronin haxor we can employ to our cause. I'm sure our fiefdom has enough ryu between us to buy the services of such a one.
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Post by Miles » Jan 29 2012 4:51pm

Most likely we're on a list..... Half of the people who are registering at the moment are spammers.....

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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Post by o00scorpion00o » Jan 29 2012 4:54pm

neptronix wrote:It's been pretty bad lately.
I'm a little shocked no basic PHP script / plugin has been written to combat this in all the years of vBulletin development.
A pretty simple algorithm would smack down over 1/2 the spam we see here. The patterns are quite obvious.

ES Mods, if you cry uncle over the spam, let me know. I do believe i have a partial solution in mind. I write PHP for a living. Send me a PM if you'd like help.

How does that work ? I'm not a software man at all lol :mrgreen:
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Post by liveforphysics » Jan 29 2012 4:57pm

Miles wrote:Most likely we're on a list..... Half of the people who are registering at the moment are spammers.....

Add a couple of questions to the registration process?

An amp of current at a volt of potential equals _____ unit of power.
Each carcinogen vapor exposure includes a dice roll for cancer.

Each mutagen vapor exposure includes a dice roll for reproductive genetic defects in your children.

Each engine start sprays them into a shared atmosphere which includes beings not offered an opportunity to consent accepting these cancer experiences and defective genetics life experiences.

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Re: Damn Spam posts!

Post by marty » Jan 29 2012 5:05pm

dogman wrote:Well you guys sure do a great job. I get accused of never sleeping, but early as I get up, AW or somebody has cleaned up the board by 430 mst.

So much for me toning down the post number. Sick as hell again yesterday, but the forum was quite active all day sooo.

Trying to stop, think and delete chit chatty posts before I submit on the techical forums. Trying to stick to noob reply category, unless I really do have the experience to contribute to the discussion.
Please keep typing Dog Man! Glad to have you here. Hope you feeling better. Keep your mind happy and your body will feel better.
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Post by neptronix » Jan 29 2012 5:09pm

o00scorpion00o wrote:How does that work ? I'm not a software man at all lol :mrgreen:
Easy... i wrote some PHP lines that do this kind of thing for my company recently.
Spammers started to figure out how to use our contact form.
I set up a system where it would look for various 'red flags', or patterns that previous spammers had used.
If the system detected a certain amount of red flags, it would just not send the message, but it would log to a debug file.. just in case we had missed some legitimate customer contact.

Couple patterns i've seen on ES, just from the outside:

1) spammer signs up, makes 3-5 posts almost immediately.
2) If there is not a link in the message, there is nonsense in the message and a link in the signature.
3) If there is a link to the profile/signature, it probably consists of domain . extension & no link to a directory or html, php, jsp etc after that.

I would also bet there are repeat offender IP blocks that can just be straight up banned permanently.
Time between posts for a new user, and time between registration and first post are 2 big tipoffs.

There are probably other signs. Nowadays, spammers are quite sophisticated though, so you always have to stay 1 step ahead.

Back in the day when i administrated a bunch of mail servers, i could cut half the spam flow by just auto spam foldering words like 'viagra', 'v1agra', 'VlAGRA' ( with an lower case L instead of an I ), etc.

Luke's idea of more questions would help some.
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Re: Damn Spam posts!

Post by neptronix » Jan 29 2012 5:18pm

www.recumbents.com wrote:There's numerous mods available on phpbb's site to prevent spam. The most effective one is the one that asks a question, impossible for a bot to circumvent. The poster was getting about 2 or 3 spam registrants a day and tried many of the mods but since installing that one have had 0 spam registrants in about 6 months or longer.

-Warren.
They installed one of those a while ago. It worked for a while. But the spammers figured out the questions over time.

Preventing spam is a moving target. You gotta mix it up.
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Post by REdiculous » Jan 29 2012 5:35pm

How does that work ? I'm not a software man at all lol
if (weThinkUserIsSpammer(user_id) || weThinkPostIsSpam(post_id)) doSomethingAboutTheSpam(user_id, post_id);
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Post by o00scorpion00o » Jan 29 2012 5:41pm

REdiculous wrote:
How does that work ? I'm not a software man at all lol
if (weThinkUserIsSpammer(user_id) || weThinkPostIsSpam(post_id)) doSomethingAboutTheSpam(user_id, post_id);
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Now that looks a lot like spam to me!!! :mrgreen:
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Post by o00scorpion00o » Jan 29 2012 5:44pm

neptronix wrote:
o00scorpion00o wrote:How does that work ? I'm not a software man at all lol :mrgreen:
Easy... i wrote some PHP lines that do this kind of thing for my company recently.
Spammers started to figure out how to use our contact form.
I set up a system where it would look for various 'red flags', or patterns that previous spammers had used.
If the system detected a certain amount of red flags, it would just not send the message, but it would log to a debug file.. just in case we had missed some legitimate customer contact.

Couple patterns i've seen on ES, just from the outside:

1) spammer signs up, makes 3-5 posts almost immediately.
2) If there is not a link in the message, there is nonsense in the message and a link in the signature.
3) If there is a link to the profile/signature, it probably consists of domain . extension & no link to a directory or html, php, jsp etc after that.

I would also bet there are repeat offender IP blocks that can just be straight up banned permanently.
Time between posts for a new user, and time between registration and first post are 2 big tipoffs.

There are probably other signs. Nowadays, spammers are quite sophisticated though, so you always have to stay 1 step ahead.

Back in the day when i administrated a bunch of mail servers, i could cut half the spam flow by just auto spam foldering words like 'viagra', 'v1agra', 'VlAGRA' ( with an lower case L instead of an I ), etc.

Luke's idea of more questions would help some.

Interesting, but programming is beyond me! :mrgreen:

Why do they do it, especially if there is no links, does it give them a buzz or something ?
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Post by liveforphysics » Jan 29 2012 6:35pm

They do it because someone somewhere pays someone else $0.0001 for each time they have a new unique user click some link.
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Re: WHO KEEPS SPAMMING E.S ?

Post by Ykick » Jan 29 2012 6:39pm

Marty explained in another thread they do it in order to move up on search engines. Apparently ES has standing and they're trying to ride those coat tails. Doesn't need to be links as keywords will direct hits to sites anyway.
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Post by bigmoose » Jan 29 2012 6:57pm

Calling MRVass... calling MRVass you are needed in the server room! :mrgreen:
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Post by chroot » Jan 30 2012 12:46am

Another spamming in E-Bike Photos& Video section. rid spammer please! :lol:
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Post by neptronix » Jan 30 2012 1:08am

Bit frustrating because a simple script would prevent this particular instance..
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