A123 AMP20M1HD-A Battery pack kit

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A123 AMP20M1HD-A Battery pack kit

Post by agniusm » Apr 08, 2012 6:07 am

A123 AMP20M1HD-A Battery pack kit
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I do not sell cells and they are not included!

Configurations available:
4S, 6S, 12S, 16S, 18S, 24S, 30S. Other configurations might be available on larger quantities (20pcs)

Balancing connectors and traces capable of 6A continuous (rev2), so it could be charged through it using BC168, Hyena's balance charger etc.

The dimensions of the kits:
4S - 34x160x14mm, packaged weight 241g.
6S - 48x160x14mm
12S - 90x160x14mm, packaged weight 357g.
16S - 118x160x14mm, packaged weight 373g.
18S - 132x160x14mm
24S - 174x160x14mm, packaged weight 535g.
30S - 216x160x14mm


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Customer pack's:

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Re: A123 AMP20M1HD-A Battery pack kit

Post by docnjoj » Apr 08, 2012 10:43 am

I think I replied to another thread but yes! Do you have price and availability yet?
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Post by ohzee » Apr 08, 2012 10:48 am

Sign me up.

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Post by neptronix » Apr 08, 2012 10:51 am

Not interested since i'm not a lifepo4 fan, however i think the idea is quite brilliant and you should go for it.. :)
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Re: A123 AMP20M1HD-A Battery pack kit

Post by agniusm » Apr 08, 2012 10:53 am

Thanks. I dont have the price at the moment mainly because i am negotiating block price with companies. It would be not a big deal if i ordered 2000pcs but on smaller quantities the price goes up (up to 4$per block) which makes the kit totaly unatractive. After i will negotiate the price, will post it here and then its a matter of couple weeks till shipping. cheers

P.S. Moumting plates will have copper pads for blocks on the cell side (not visible on the drawing) and builder will have a possibility to solder blocks on to the board further easing buid proces.

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Post by Spacey » Apr 08, 2012 2:50 pm

Interested for sure.
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Post by ambroseliao » Apr 08, 2012 4:59 pm

Add me to the interested list. This would make building a pack drop dead simple.
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Re: A123 AMP20M1HD-A Battery pack kit

Post by agniusm » Apr 08, 2012 5:51 pm

Forgot to mention (did not included in the sketch), there will be threaded brass rod going through top plate and sticking out 5mm. This will make things easy. The Builder will acquire 2 bullet connectors desired gauge but not less than 4mm (75A) and solder those strait on to the rod. After the pack is finished and top plate is on, they will be screwed in and you have easy unplugging neat terminals. Those who need beefier terminals will be able to use these:
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with 4mm nut.
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Re: A123 AMP20M1HD-A Battery pack kit

Post by 999zip999 » Apr 08, 2012 6:56 pm

Looks good, interested. Like to hang under my top bar ? How's your running ? And your setup ?

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Re: A123 AMP20M1HD-A Battery pack kit

Post by agniusm » Apr 08, 2012 11:11 pm

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Mine is running fine so far. Its couple of days yet so early to say. Mounting options is up to you:)


If possible state configuration you need the kit for , i will run perhaps 4 kits at first and ship them to lucky once, and then everybody will get feedback from them, after there is satisfaction, i can start making larger quantities.

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Re: A123 AMP20M1HD-A Battery pack kit

Post by spkpn » Apr 09, 2012 6:23 am

Id be interested in a 2p set up..

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Post by texaspyro » Apr 09, 2012 6:37 am

A 4S config would also be highly useful. 4S of LiFePO is a perfect match for replacing 12V lead acid batteries.

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Post by Timmey » Apr 09, 2012 6:41 am

Nice kit, we've been doing something similar to build our 102s1p A123 pack for a Formula Student Electric race car.

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Re: A123 AMP20M1HD-A Battery pack kit

Post by docnjoj » Apr 09, 2012 6:49 am

I am interested in 12S configuration please. Thanks
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Re: A123 AMP20M1HD-A Battery pack kit

Post by adam78 » Apr 09, 2012 4:17 pm

I would be interested in 8s and 10s config.
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Post by agniusm » Apr 10, 2012 2:15 am

OK, so i can tell that standart sizes are not standart at all:) I will include 4S in the availability list, so if you need 10S you could get 6s and 4s, 8s - 4s+4s, 16s - 12s + 4s etc if that works. Remember that all that custom stuff ads to the price and i cant make infividual stuff in one peace quantities unless someone wants to pay top price. Friday going to firm to negotiate PCB prices. cheers

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Post by Frank » Apr 10, 2012 6:14 am

This sounds like a good idea - have you actually built a prototype yet?
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Post by agniusm » Apr 10, 2012 7:03 am

Partly yes, i used similar on my e scooter, link in signature. This thou will be more advanced, easy to build with all parts included. Tidy BMS connectors etc.

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Re: A123 AMP20M1HD-A Battery pack kit

Post by agniusm » Apr 10, 2012 10:34 am

Layout for different configurations. Sizes are:
4S- 34x160
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6S-48x160
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12S-90x160
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18S-132x160
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24S-174x160
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30S-216x160
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Same size top cover with cutout on the right side for connector.
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Post by ohzee » Apr 10, 2012 10:39 am

Where do I send my money. Be happy to be a guinea pig :)

Looks great here personally id like 3 or 4 6s kits.

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Post by agniusm » Apr 10, 2012 10:47 am

ohzee wrote:Where do I send my money. Be happy to be a guinea pig :)

Looks great here personally id like 3 or 4 6s kits.
You wont be a guinea pig!! All will be checked before shipping. Me risking big time on this :) Changing thickness of blocks to reduce weight and cost: 45x6x3

Those interested, please PM me configuration and how many units you will need, i will try to reduce my risk in buying material i need. I will list unit and shipping prices when arranged with 3rd parties.

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Re: A123 AMP20M1HD-A Battery pack kit

Post by cassschr1 » Apr 10, 2012 10:49 am

How about one for 28 s . Thats 100v charged for the a123 packs. Will 100v caps and fets take the 30s version, I wonder.
I personally would like one for 40s also.

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Post by Doctorbass » Apr 10, 2012 10:58 am

Timmey wrote:Nice kit, we've been doing something similar to build our 102s1p A123 pack for a Formula Student Electric race car.

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Interesting, is this project you talk about with teh ermax motor? http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/sh ... 60574.html

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Re: A123 AMP20M1HD-A Battery pack kit

Post by agniusm » Apr 10, 2012 1:32 pm

cassschr1 wrote:How about one for 28 s . Thats 100v charged for the a123 packs. Will 100v caps and fets take the 30s version, I wonder.
I personally would like one for 40s also.
You will get 28s by using 24s+4s, 40s using 30s+6s+4s.
You cant possibly make a product for everyone, sorry about that.

And please, keep it on topic. Cheers

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