Yeah I often wonder what magic is being applied to the plane whenever I'm flying with my familyVesA wrote:Chinese can apply some magic to lithium battery shipments. I don't know how they do it..
has anyone tried this?ecotech wrote:Well from what I can tell as long as you don't send the batteries as batteries but send them as a package with something else , i.e. a battery charger that has all the batteries attached to it, then you can send it as a battery charger and not as a battery, that's how companies bypass the dangerous goods method which costs a lot, also if you ship via freight most will not care if there are batteries or not inside.
Sure it does make sense and cells should be shipped properly for everybody's safety. It is probably not difficult to xray packets and check for cells. As I said earlier, I'd rather fly without superfire etc cells in the plane's trunk.amberwolf wrote:I have no specific evidence for this, but based on some posts here on ES:
The vendors probably found that they couldn't sneak stuff past customs anymore without legitimate hazmat certifications, labelling correctly, etc.
I suspect that in some countries customs is more thorough than others, and those are where these vendors gave up trying, as it costs them too much to ship them properly, or they got too many customer complaints from the cost of customs duties, etc., when shipments were labelled with actual values and contents, etc. (or they weren't labelled and shipments were siezed or refused at customs).
Fingers crossed that Brexit negotiations dont slam that door shut !hemo wrote:Nkon in Holland ship using DPD, here in UK they arrived in 4 days in a regular cardboard box with battery labels on. All above board and proper, shipping was 10-12 euros..
Why would Brexit impact a Dutch store?Hillhater wrote:Fingers crossed that Brexit negotiations dont slam that door shut !hemo wrote:Nkon in Holland ship using DPD, here in UK they arrived in 4 days in a regular cardboard box with battery labels on. All above board and proper, shipping was 10-12 euros..
That was my first idea but his location is a bit off, Sydney. But whatever. Nkon is currently probably the only reasonable shop with lithium cells in EU.r3volved wrote:I think he means he hopes it doesn't negatively impact shipping requirements for the UK.vex_zg wrote:Why would Brexit impact a Dutch store?
As far as I know, you need to ship to a border town in the US, and hop over and get it.ebike11 wrote:Anyone know of a method to get lithium pack 10s pack into Canada?
If I get them sea-freighted it's a flat US$260, plus clearing fees when it arrives in Oz.
Air freight is US$1000 with all fees included. These are based on DHL I think.
The new fees came in after April this year in response to tighter regulations around air freighting lithium batteries. It hasn't gotten any safer, just more expensive to comply...In the past I've paid about US$450 for an equivalent shipment, so it's quite a significant jump.
Kirby - You'll find the bike can be sent sans battery easily, and the battery can be shipped separately with any firm who claims to be a specialist in lithium battery shipping. Pack N Send are actually pretty good with it, albeit a bit expensive. Of course you can sea freight it, but airfreight would be easiest.
at the time we started developing the LiGo batteries the regulations were pretty clear allowing up to 20pcs of <100 Wh battery packs to be shipped without going as dangerous goods. In April of 2016 the rules got adjusted down to just 2 batteries, and since January 2017 most of the couriers (like Fedex, UPS) have an internal policy that they will not accept any lithium battery only shipment without it going as Class 9 Dangerous Goods cargo.
However, there is another category of batteries packed with equipment (not even packed in equipment) which they are happy to ship, and so lately we've been including a cosmetic defect ebike light, DC-DC converter, or other small items that can be powered off the LiGo battery. If they see that we are shipping a bike light with a couple spare battery packs all <100 Wh, then that is no problem. But without the light in there and just batteries only it has to go as Dangerous Goods (with the $60 DG surcharge, packed in vermiculite, and all that).