13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

Post by madin88 » Mar 13 2016 10:34am

tomjasz wrote:Mine came today. $53
I'm not impressed. The Dolphin is a superior case, questions and pictures to follow. I wish I'd have ordered a dolphin...guess I will do that next. Came 13s4p 52 cells. Have to decide, do i build or sell off and wait for dolphin. Dolphin us definitely more robust.
what exatly you don't like, or what are the weak points in your opinion?

i have not purchased one by now because i first need to settle on the frame. from what i found out so far the holder of the shark case should be mounted with more than two bolts to the frame, but otherwise i have not read anything bad..
from the pics, the connectors of the dolphin case look very small so i think there isn't much difference in conductivity. the cells in the dolphin are aligned rectangular making the case much bigger.
i would prefer honeycomb shape.
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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

Post by t3sla » Mar 13 2016 10:58am

It's about half the price and quality of he dolphin. They have a new model out this year which is as good as the dolphin but less, sadly it only holds 40cells
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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

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2016 Shark 40 cells

It uses the side swipe method to eject
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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

Post by Alan B » Mar 13 2016 11:41am

Too bad it is only 40 cells, side ejection could be good for tight frames.

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Post by ScooterMan101 » Mar 14 2016 2:29am

t3sla,

Is that shark available in just the case only ? ( no batteries, just the case )

What cost and also cost to ship to the U.S. ? ... in USD

I like that side swipe/dismount design , it is the only one that would work on my Womens MTB bike frame.

Thanks



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2016 Shark 40 cells

It uses the side swipe method to eject
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https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 1#p1077497

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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

Post by t3sla » Mar 14 2016 12:18pm

ScooterMan101 wrote:t3sla,

Is that shark available in just the case only ? ( no batteries, just the case )

What cost and also cost to ship to the U.S. ? ... in USD

I like that side swipe/dismount design , it is the only one that would work on my Womens MTB bike frame.

Thanks



t3sla wrote:
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1457884793.340138.jpg
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2016 Shark 40 cells

It uses the side swipe method to eject
Hasn't entered production, shouldn't be too much more than the old shark
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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

Post by madin88 » Apr 09 2016 7:35am

the link to alibaba now says "product not found" and i could not find another seller.

anyone has another link to alibaba, or to an importeur?
I still would like to take the Hailong because it looks much slimmer as the dolphin and features honeycomb cell layout.
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Re: 13s4p

Post by ScooterMan101 » Apr 15 2016 1:35am

It has now been 4 weeks , is the side swipe dismount case you pictured at the bottom, avaliable for sale yet ?

Please let us know when it is .
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2016 Shark 40 cells

It uses the side swipe method to eject
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https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 1#p1077497

It's 2018 already, lets get some real , improved e-bike / e-velomobile / e-motorcycle designs .

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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

Post by madin88 » Apr 15 2016 3:02am

I was able to find another seller for the case only and placed an order for the 48V version.
payed about 55€ shipped with DHL. thats ok.
Im going to report back as soon as i have installed the cells and mounted it to bike.

However i'm still not sure about the BMS. It should be programmable (thus a smart BMS) with at least 40A continuous. Any ideas?
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- KTM Hardtail Pedelec / eZee V2 6T / 27,5" / Kelly KBSX @ 1,5kW / Torque PAS / CA-V3 / 13s4p Sanyo GA in Shark case

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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

Post by Hillhater » Apr 15 2016 8:40pm

madin88 wrote:I was able to find another seller for the case only and placed an order for the 48V version.
payed about 55€ shipped with DHL. .....
Is that the "side swipe dismount". version ?
.Link ?
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Post by t3sla » Apr 16 2016 9:21am

Yes they are for sale now, I have a set of first production samples and they have issues. Will document when soon
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Post by madin88 » Apr 16 2016 12:02pm

Hillhater wrote:
madin88 wrote:I was able to find another seller for the case only and placed an order for the 48V version.
payed about 55€ shipped with DHL. .....
Is that the "side swipe dismount". version ?
.Link ?
nope, it's the Hailong case for 13s4p.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Down-tub ... 457.eQrfeV
- 10kW belt drive with Neumotor 8057: viewtopic.php?f=30&t=91144&start=50#p1377787
- Fully road legal (L1E approval) e-bike based on Votec V-FR frame
/ MXUS 3T / 17" Mitas MC11 / Adaptto Max-E / 20s12p 25R
- KTM Hardtail Pedelec / eZee V2 6T / 27,5" / Kelly KBSX @ 1,5kW / Torque PAS / CA-V3 / 13s4p Sanyo GA in Shark case

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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

Post by ScooterMan101 » Apr 17 2016 1:57am

I am only interested in the " Side Swipe, dismount " version.

If price can be under $ 25 USD , then perhaps I could buy 2 of them, as long as they dismount sideways.
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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

Post by madin88 » Apr 17 2016 4:27am

@ ScooterMan
it might be better if you start a new thread about this different case.
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- KTM Hardtail Pedelec / eZee V2 6T / 27,5" / Kelly KBSX @ 1,5kW / Torque PAS / CA-V3 / 13s4p Sanyo GA in Shark case

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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

Post by ScooterMan101 » Apr 18 2016 5:26am

Why ?

The side swipe dismount case , Is , a Shark Case, ( what is called by many people , a shark case , because it is thinner than the Dolphin cases )

Perhaps a new thread, only , to state the interest , and the need for them to start making 14 s 4p and 14s 5p shark cases with side swipe dismount .

With the side swipe dismount feature , it would be possible for them to make 14s cases and still fit into small and medium size bike frames,
also
Anyone who rides a rear suspension frame bike would really need the side swipe dismount design in order to easily put on and take off the battery.

madin88 wrote:@ ScooterMan
it might be better if you start a new thread about this different case.
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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

Post by tomjasz » Apr 18 2016 11:02pm

10s4p or 13s3p seems the opposite direction the market is moving...
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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

Post by ScooterMan101 » Jun 06 2016 1:44am

Yea, we need them to start making 13 s 4 p and 5 p Side Release " Shark " Cases, ( Side Release version for those of us with small / and or / full suspension frames .
and
14 s 4 p and 5 p , Side Release " Shark " Cases,

any work on the current ones shown on a few posts above the side release one , ( the post with the pictures, by 3tsla) ?

Where can we buy a 10s 4p or 13 s 4 p , side release , thin " shark " case now ?
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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

Post by tomjasz » Jun 06 2016 10:16am

What is this side release? Each case design has a manufacturer designation. "Shark" typically refers to Hailong-1.
Have any other part number? Is it a Hailong case?
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Post by madin88 » Jun 06 2016 2:09pm

I got my Hailong case. price was about 50€ delivered to my door.
will built it up soon (using 13s4p GA cells and 40A smart BMS).
the case really looks cheap built. thin wallthickness, not waterproof (no sealing at least) and the connectors also look a bit cheap.
Otherwise i'm happy with it and future will tell how it works on my fathers e-bike :)

btw: the side swap case i have seen one for 13s4p which did look identical, but i don't know if that was a typo in the description or true.
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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

Post by tomjasz » Jun 06 2016 3:59pm

The quality difference between he Hailong 1 (Shark) and Reention Atlas DA-1 (Dolphin) are quite evident when you have both side by side.

Dolphin cases are far tougher. Shark has plastic bracket the Dolphin is steel.
Thanks Justin_le we're here thanks to you. All the best to the mods for their tireless work keeping it on an even keel.

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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

Post by ScooterMan101 » Jun 07 2016 12:18am

Madin88,
Do you have a link to where you got your shark case ?

The side Swipe, or I think it should be called side dismount, case , is what I need for my frame that does not hold a regular case.
Since I live in a very Dry State, and 99% of the time I ride when it is not raining, I can do a little water proofing my self, and even also look
at the connectors and make better ones myself.

tomjasz,
My bike will not be able to fit a Dolphin Case inside the frame , so I must make due with a Shark Case.
the side dismount/mount feature is also a must .




tomjasz wrote:The quality difference between he Hailong 1 (Shark) and Reention Atlas DA-1 (Dolphin) are quite evident when you have both side by side.

Dolphin cases are far tougher. Shark has plastic bracket the Dolphin is steel.
madin88 wrote:I got my Hailong case. price was about 50€ delivered to my door.
will built it up soon (using 13s4p GA cells and 40A smart BMS).
the case really looks cheap built. thin wallthickness, not waterproof (no sealing at least) and the connectors also look a bit cheap.
Otherwise i'm happy with it and future will tell how it works on my fathers e-bike :)

btw: the side swap case i have seen one for 13s4p which did look identical, but i don't know if that was a typo in the description or true.
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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

Post by Peregrine » Jun 16 2016 3:02am

This appears to be the side dismount case:

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product ... 22431.html

The drawing in the description indicates this model (2016) is 34mm longer and 12mm thinner than the old (2015) model.

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Post by ScooterMan101 » Sep 15 2016 11:02pm

Bump,

Any new news on these ?
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Re: 13s4p "shark" battery -> where to buy case only?

Post by ScooterMan101 » Sep 15 2016 11:21pm

When I clicked on this link, it said, " Item No Longer Available "

Well it was only for a 36 volt configuration anyway .

I am really looking for a 14s 3p, / 14s 4p / 14s 5p version of the thin sideways dismount anyway.


Peregrine wrote:This appears to be the side dismount case:

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product ... 22431.html

The drawing in the description indicates this model (2016) is 34mm longer and 12mm thinner than the old (2015) model.
My first conversion ...

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Post by tomjasz » Sep 16 2016 12:43pm

I have a Shark case I'll sell. I bought it and was disappointed and prefer the Reention Atlas, Dolphin.

It was $56 delivered. PM

PayPal F&F or trade?
Thanks Justin_le we're here thanks to you. All the best to the mods for their tireless work keeping it on an even keel.

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