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Nano Flow Cell Development - Open Sourcsame

Posted: Feb 20 2018 5:51am
by usertogo
I had a lot of hope for Nano Flow Cell 'Batteries', but find the development stuck?
Lets think about Open Source, lets collect info and see if it is possible?

Hello electric vehicle enthusiasts, engineers, physics wizards & family

Those of us who like electric vehicle technology probably have heard about a Nano Flow Cell powered Quant and Quantino 'electric vehicles'?

Time is flying - It has been already a few years since these were introduced - while the published specs impressed and the cars looked like close to ready for manufacturing - I sense that there isn't even a project to commercialize them (has there ever been one?)...

The part of the specs I remember now was 1000km range out of 600Wh per liter of chargeable fluid. I hope that counts as half a liter anolyte and half a liter catholite... I think it would be extremely competitive and scalable, and probably at a decent scale much cheaper than Lithium Ion cells! in 200liters of it you'd have 20% more capacity than Teslas top 100kWh pack (nominal?)

I can envision this to be the optimal solution in solar yacht catamaran design. And I consider it a fair challenge to want to build one like that to escape to water world eventually...
My attempts to contact the Nano Flow Cell company have not resulted in any answer so far, and I have started to look if I find research universities or maybe open source projects that do any work on flow cells at all... No hit so far...

As always there is reason to hope to find some interesting leads in what I consider a collection of the worlds brightest electron heads :)

At least - may the seed be planted!

Re: Nano Flow Cell Development - Open Sourcsame

Posted: Jun 21 2018 8:08am
by usertogo
Meanwhile it has become clear that the Nano Flow Cell company was either from another dimension with alternate physics, or just hoaxers... so admitting this type of defeat lets analyse the hopes and aspirations that wanted to push the limit of the #redoxFlowBatteries such as are frequently sold in #turnkeyContainerBatteries actually does Tesla make, sell or rent Container sized turnkey solutions yet (even if they are conventional batteries)?

Re: Nano Flow Cell Development - Open Sourcsame

Posted: Jun 21 2018 9:32pm
by Toorbough ULL-Zeveigh
they need to change the name.
nanoflow sounds like a UTI.

Re: Nano Flow Cell Development - Open Sourcsame

Posted: Jun 21 2018 10:39pm
by Hillhater
usertogo wrote:
Jun 21 2018 8:08am
Meanwhile it has become clear that the Nano Flow Cell company was either from another dimension with alternate physics, or just hoaxers... so admitting this type of defeat lets analyse the hopes and aspirations that wanted to push the limit of the #redoxFlowBatteries such as are frequently sold in #turnkeyContainerBatteries actually does Tesla make, sell or rent Container sized turnkey solutions yet (even if they are conventional batteries)?
Im sure you have heard of the Tesla Powerwall domestic 13 kWh storage pack, and you should be aware of their 210kWh PowerPack commercial modular set up that has been assembled to 100+ MWh configurations.
Many other battery suppliers have similar capabilities with "containerised" storage systems (A123 were one of the first)
Rexox are offering domestic and commercial sized systems if its a flow battery that you desire.
If you can afford it, there are many potential suppliers of such a system.
But for a mobile , vehicle traction pack, system, lithium is still the only viable , available, practical, choice.

Re: Nano Flow Cell Development - Open Sourcsame

Posted: Jun 22 2018 4:55pm
by usertogo
Hillhater wrote:
Jun 21 2018 10:39pm
But for a mobile , vehicle traction pack, system, lithium is still the only viable , available, practical, choice.
I'm sure that does not have to be forever the limit... For example I heard about Silicon atoms that could give Lithium batteries up to 40x boost in capacity, if they only could control the change of volume, that would fragment any solid substrate such as in a solid state battery cell. If this could be integrated in a flow cell with anolyte and catholyte then it may help redox flow cells to surpass the energy density of batteries...
My motivation is the long term goal to design a solar catamaran and two hulls could probably already take the low energy density solution available now and be much more affordable than cells with their comparably much more complicated life cycle...
So the search is on for research centers and universities and anybody that has insights and ideas about it - hope never dies!