Varicore Batteries

I am looking for plain jane battery packs for an inconspicuous 36V low-power setup (350W).

Varicore has an Aliexpress store https://varicore.aliexpress.com/store/1672014

In it they have an interesting 10s3p pack with internal BMS

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/VariCore-36V-7-8ah-10S3P-High-Power-18650-Batterie-Electric-Vehicle-Motorrad-Batterie-36V-BMS-Schutz/1672014_32885072705.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.6.56bc4c9bk1DhCI

Has anyone tried packs like these?

I know Varicore is Chinese and not a name brand, but they seem to have spawned fakes

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/VariCore-36V-10Ah-10S3P-18650-Rechargeable-battery-pack-modified-Bicycles-Electric-vehicle-42V-BMS-Protection-li/32884673552.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.2.75a31023r9cENs&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10152_10151_10065_10344_10130_10068_10324_10547_10342_10325_10546_10343_10340_10548_10341_10545_10696_10084_10083_10618_10307_10846_10059_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620,searchweb201603_46,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=c0af2a3c-113e-43e2-9ef5-f817e2fd72c1-0&algo_pvid=c0af2a3c-113e-43e2-9ef5-f817e2fd72c1&priceBeautifyAB=0

so maybe they have a reputation is China?

Does anyone know of a similar 10s3p pack with BMS that has verified cells?

I don't think you can ship the cells for just 5€ and not get in trouble with the post office/customs.

My guess; those cells will be stuck on the border...Forever.

tomtom50 said:

I know Varicore is Chinese and not a name brand, but they seem to have spawned fakes

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They seem to be a re-branded LiitoKala - exactly the same chargers and cells. Though their chargers are not bad, their cells spawn questions.
Pay attention to their naming - "for Panasonic", "for Samsung". I've read several topics on Russian sites where i saw pages of debates and no specific answer to the question "are they genuine or not?"

I have never bought any but if the ES members are interested, i can make a test at several discharge rates.

thunderheart said:

tomtom50 said:

I know Varicore is Chinese and not a name brand, but they seem to have spawned fakes

Click to expand...

They seem to be a re-branded LiitoKala - exactly the same chargers and cells. Though their chargers are not bad, their cells spawn questions.
Pay attention to their naming - "for Panasonic", "for Samsung". I've read several topics on Russian sites where i saw pages of debates and no specific answer to the question "are they genuine or not?"

I have never bought any but if the ES members are interested, i can make a test at several discharge rates.

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Thanks for the info. Do you test individual cells or the pack as a whole?

tomtom50 said:

Thanks for the info. Do you test individual cells or the pack as a whole?

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I can test either cells or packs, but i think it's better to test a cell and compare it to a genuine one to find out whether Varicore supplies genuine cells or not.

thunderheart said:

tomtom50 said:

Thanks for the info. Do you test individual cells or the pack as a whole?

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I can test either cells or packs, but i think it's better to test a cell and compare it to a genuine one to find out whether Varicore supplies genuine cells or not.

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Good to know. Thanks.