Right on (ermmm do folks still say that? hehe)... but it's not about law MAKING. It's about all the bad law/perspective out there already that needs CHANGING...mdd0127 wrote:In my opinion, it's all about fun...<SNIP>I'm starting to feel also, that the people that are starting to get into law making are from a different generation than the previous people. They seem to be more open minded. They will see the environmental benefit and potential revenues and jump all over it. I'd better get off the internet and go build something fun.
No, but those fatalities are really not what makes motorcycles dangerous. What makes motorcycles dangerous is the same thing that makes bikes dangerous- Cage drivers not seeing us. Its about about the left turner in front of you that you tbone, or he hits you to get across the road. Its about the lane merger who pushes you onto the should 'cause he can't be bothered to look for you. On bikes, it about the people who swoop in front of you to only to hit the brakes and make a right turn. Sure higher speed means higher chance of injury and death, but its the visibility aspect that's the real problem on public roads.lester12483 wrote:Dennis,
I live in a big city with many stupid drivers and I have never been squashed like a bug on my ebike.
Mototcycles are far deadlier that ebikes are. Have you ever heard of someone being killed going 110 mph on a highway and wiping out on an ebike? No
I have some very stuborn people here and they are worried about 2 things the slow speeds THE LAW says we have to be limited to, and not having insurance! I personly want a way of getting around that is FREE no insurance this and licence that BLA! So yeh convince those people and we have it made!Josh K. wrote:Hey Folks,
Thanks for the good ideas.
I am interested in getting E bikes into the main stream, on TV, on the air, on the roads, and creating a positive spin in the world.
Here is a little local College paper article:
http://www.collegian.com/index.php/arti ... ling_world
Any ideas on how to get these cool machines into the main Stream? How do we get the masses to get into it, Ehy?
Thanks, Josh K.
Hehe... and some might NOT agree? For example, local to me, have local bike shops selling ebikes "on credit". Where loan payments are about HALF of a monthly pass for taking pubic transit. Plus, these ebikes operate 24/7... go directly from A to B to C, etc. Always a free seat... [hehe]... Pedaling for warmth and exercise as builtin options... Lots of advantages versus other options for urban transportation.destro23 wrote: ↑Oct 11, 2018 10:51 pmrealistically i've seen local bike shops close that have been open for over 50 years. and yes they kept up with the times. And i walked into another random shop and the guy was going to close up when he retires in a year or so. i spoke with him about ebikes and he said they are still a niche market because he believes they need to be under $500 total for average people to want them.. And i agree with him on that.
Sure. But using that logic, if you bike defensively, it can be a much safer mode of transportation than a motorcycle.dennis wrote: ↑Feb 14, 2010 3:15 pmYes, I completely agree with you, in the hands of an unexperiences squid, a motorcycle is death on 2 wheels. But for an experience rider, who drives defensively and use the power of the bike to stay away from pack traffic, motorcyling can be a safer mode of transportation when compared to a bicycle or an electric bicycle.
In my experience, the motorcycle passing other cars is the biggest risk factor. I've seen two serious and two minor motorcycle accidents due to that.Each car that passes you as you ride on the side of the road is capable of squashing a bicycle or a motorcycle. But the motorcycle has the power to limit the amount of times you are passed by another vehicle . . . .
And a bike can get off the road very quickly and easily, which a motorcycle can't. A bike can also use separated bike lanes which a motorcycle cannot, thereby greatly decreasing the risk of being hit.thereby decreasing your chances of an unwanted encounter and I've had a many close encounter of the holy shit kind in the 8 years of communting by motorcycle.