Mobile Charging

Exercise Complete
(This post was for my website but I cant get the login up)

Problem Statement:
Hybrid and EV cars wont come out of gear in the event of system failure. With a standard transmission gasser you can throw it into neutral and get a car out of a tight spot. With an automatic they have an override, put er into neutral.

With something like a 1st Gen Prius... or an 04 Prius... or many of the EV's on the maket...
No dice

So (enter 4 pages here) Towing is NOT A SOLUTION to EV's which have run flat someplace where there is no charger.
(Jumping ahead)

...

I have towed 2pcs Prius
The first was a 1st gen, maybe 2nd gen.
It was stuck in a steep driveway in Washington
Good guy named Doug sent me on an exercise to get this vehicle off the property with nothing but a tow dolly.

L O L
T H A T is a story for another time
Kimberly and I got the vehicle off the property but it took us the better half of a day and we were sore and sunburnt

Fast forward....
Yesterday I left an 04 Prius in down town Campbell. Parked parallel to the street, other cars in front of and behind it. The Vehicle was "locked up" - fubar - plumes of white smoke had billowed from under the hood and the transmission (by my tries) would not go into Netural

... (2 pages) Turns out this is a real bitch for tow companies
Blah blah... you have to use slipper plates under the wheels... do a bunch of shit... as you cant go dragging a car on a single steel cable in a highly populated area. Causes too much ruckus, to much perceived risk etc. If the vehicle in front of your vehicle can not be moved... it is a real problem getting the car on the truck

I.E.
If you have an EV
And you are enjoying down town campbell
And your kid runs the battery flat sitting in the car with the AC blowing...

A
T O W
T R U C K
I S
N O T
Y O U R
S O L U T I O N

... A day and a half of Schindler Engineering time + an Uber Ride + 3 more trips over the hill prove this. In the past 24hrs ...

* Lost half a day ENG hours yesterday
* Lost half a day CPA hours + half a day ENG hrs today
* Paid an Uber trip
* Blew out a bunch of AAA tow miles

...

Trust me
I am a trucking expert in this particular subject right now (will expand later)

SO
TO MY POINT

The only CURRENT solution to a dead EV is a Tow
I have proven, on multiple occasions, that this is NOT A SOLUTION

... Yesterday the Tow company (AAA - who failed Schindler Engineering MISERABLY) told me that they could not get me a tow at 2PM in the middle of the bay area. They told me to wait SIX HOURS until a truck was ready

6hrs
Right....
Schindler is going to wait 6hrs in Campbell until your local truck is ready.... since you shaved all your services down to the bone to maximize profits and ... now I am going to pay that price?

Anyway (pissed - I am going to light up AAA big time on this... but that will be later)

Anyway

What we are going to need for EV's is the following

* Truck, Van, or other heavy duty vehicle
* 100KWH of onboard lithium
* Means to trickle charge onboard lithium - so special alternator likely, otherwise onboard generator
* NO - WE WONT BE ABLE TO JUST SLOW CHARGE IT THE NIGHT BEFORE>>>>> WE ARE JUMPING EV's ALL DAY

On that note... Saw no less than 40 Tesla's on the road today. FU Oil and GAS!!!!

* Means to convert this 100KW onboard DC power to voltage match the vehicle which needs a jump.
* A jump shall be some nominal amount - 10KWh? ...
* A jump shall happen in no longer than it took to move my Prius out of the main drag in Campbell
* A jump shall not come in the form of J1772 (Obviously)
* A jump shall come in the form of CCS1, CHAdeMO, Tesla, and TBD-OTHER Possibly 480VAC

A jump will be a "common occurrence"
A jump will be no different than booking an Uber Ride

This service will not be offered by Uncle Sam, Uncle AAA, or Uncle Fester. This service will be offered by Amazon, Google, Uber, or the first pack of girls with the balls to do it.

You ... are... going to need to partner with a Charge Company
Do not waste your time trying to finger out all these charge protocols and all this shit... Super complicated.

ChargePoint is who I would partner with - only because I know they could do it in a snap. Guy named Scott, if presented a viable business plan, would slam you into shape

... Other company??? Fine
I have not worked for "other company" so I can not say if "Other company" can handle the job.

I can say that company named ChargePoint could handle the job - proof being that I hammered their ish for 2 years as a Sr Test Engineer and their ish works.

So...
The battery pack
Why a battery pack and not a huge generator?
Good question

...

Version 1

Throw a DC fast charger on the back of a flat bed
Throw a 480V 3-phase generator on the back of the truck

So...
We are looking at pushing 10KWh quick...

So...
10Kw charge means an hour
20Kw means half an hour
40Kw means 15 min... getting there

So we are looking at a 50KW DC fast charge minimum
It has to run CCS1 and CHAdeMO for starters

OK
After efficiency.... and fudging a bit... 60KW generator

(Searched Google)
Looks like these generators are only $20K bucks eh?
No doubt you can get any head on them... 120V, 240V, 480V... right?

No doubt you can tune charge profiles to be "Generator Friendly" - so running power with no regard to starting power

Looking good eh?
Forget the onboard battery and inverter...

Forget the fussy-butt's in non-reality who are appauled by the thought of running a generator to quick charge an EV. There is nothing more natural and wholesome than quick charging a stuck EV with a 60KW generator on the back of a truck

R I G H T ?????????

So
What does a used EV Fast Charger go for?

So
What does it cost to sink one in potting (for the road vibration) or otherwise suspend it in a nice soft little nest?
(Nest is cheaper)

Say ... what?
I dont know... $20k sure shoudl be able to get you something? Adding in all the charge support, divide by two, carry the remainder... say... $35k shoudl do it

So you are in for the truck - any truck will do - call it $20k
You are in for a $20k generator
You are in for a $35k charge solution
Now... To system integrate that... sigh... you are going to be looking at a PRETTY BIG BILL

... Sure
You could do it in the Burning Man parking Lot... but what we are looking for here is DOT approval and shit like that.... so...

Just think about it.

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To solve the Tesla's?
CHAdeMO to Tesla converter of course.


To solve the traffic Issues?
You just do it. You explain the alternatives to the cops.

To solve safety
We have generators on trucks all the time in farming. Standard.

To solve seed cash?
That is your problem. I am just saying that we can do it

Right now
Starting Monday Morning
Put up or shut up

...

How will you make money?

You have to get your money boys to go sign contracts with all the local companies. Maybe cut out AAA and all the tow companies by partnering with Uber.

... Patents?

Naw dog
If some troll is sitting on it... I will personally go to its house, open up their sky light, drop into their living room, and smother them with a dog-shit blanket

It is time to do this
NOW

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Next come all the posts...
Claiming it has already been done etc...

If so
Invest in that company
Get a piece of that pie quick

If nothing exists
or if that company is greedy
We make something better, faster, cheaper

How to get a Charge Partner?
Same way you get anything...
ADVERTISING

Charge Company gets to be the hero that gets you out of a tight spot
Charge Company gets to put a phat logo on the side of the truck
Charge Company gets to get your personal information
Charge Company gets to sign you up!

... See how this goes?

All this is real simple
What you should ask yourself is W H Y do you not see it already?

...

The primary reason is that only Rich folk can afford EV's for the most part right now. Rich folk and hardcore enthusiasts. They all have a garage where they can slow charge. They all are "into it". Many of them are working at Google getting free charge or super cheap charge....

But
I am methods
Man who sleeps in car and promotes pornography for the lonely man...

So
I am thinking of the little guys
All the folks who

L I V E IN APARTMENTS

All the folks who cant trickle charge
All the folks who are super busy with 3pcs screaming kid running around in circles
All the folks who are not hyper-masturbating on EV... NORMAL PEOPLE

Who
Sometimes forget to charge their car

Who
Can not afford to spend SIX FRUCKING HOURS sitting in downtown Campbell waiting for a tow

Who
Dont have all kinds of well to do familly around who can just walk off the job to come pick them up 45 minutes before rush hour...

... I am getting restless

What say we march in the street?

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Signing off for the day

I have to go on an Uber-Mission
Our Jump Bikes V2 are having all sorts of problems

Dead Bikes... no power assist

Bikes out of range... so I have to walk to go find them

Bad Transmission... so... with the V2... the stupid gear changer sticks and then your feet fly off the chucking pedals

Still a bad headlight... Thanks Uber... for buying Jump... and not putting a $3 headlight on the bike so I can not be killed by cars



We are here to help JUMP
Take your constructive criticism and ... Send me a check.

$420/hr
Contact Kimberly - she will give you the account info
2hrs for my troubleshooting

...

Good job on the front disk brake. Brakes now ROCK!
Rear drum is OK... some of them will actually skid. ALL OF THEM NEED TO SKID

Try...
Some...
Suspension K?

I ride your jump bikes on the rail road tracks so as to not DIE in traffic. 2 people have already been killed this year on my route and I am not super stoked on that. Start working on suspension bikes. Suspension makes bikes much more safe

Deal with the shit transmission
You guys are absolutely stunningly incompetent for letting that get out into the wild... the bike DOES NOT SHIFT GEARS... until you let off... then suddenly it shifts gears... and my feet fly off. Seriously. Seriously... Remove head from butt please. ASAP

Headlight
I said you needed to spend $3 on a headlight
CREE LED's
And... an lens... to send that light forward.

Just do it
Stop talking
Go do it
I am your daddy

...

The new motors make more noise too. That is fine. Noise may be good - not sure yet

New lock mechanism is rad
Love it - works greaet

... FIX THE PHONE APP
Seriously...
There is almost no intuitive way to report problems

... Start solving the Charge Solution

... and ... Give me a bike so that I can modify it for you

And... fix the area so I am not a criminal for bringing the bike over to my side of the harbor.

K Bye

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I've been able to request a flatbed from AAA in the past and they have always complied.
Why wouldn't a flatbed work for a Tesla?

M

MJSfoto1956 said:

I've been able to request a flatbed from AAA in the past and they have always complied.
Why wouldn't a flatbed work for a Tesla?

M

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From Methods first post....

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... Turns out this is a real bitch for tow companies
Blah blah... you have to use slipper plates under the wheels... do a bunch of shit... as you cant go dragging a car on a single steel cable in a highly populated area. Causes too much ruckus, to much perceived risk etc. If the vehicle in front of your vehicle can not be moved... it is a real problem getting the car on the truck

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BUT.. most of the “professional” tow companies in my town dont use single cable hoists, they have tow/lift trucks with a hydraulic arm that lifts a stranded car by the drive wheels using a adjustable “wheel support” mechanism.
I guess they realise there are cars with busted transmissions or seized brakes to remove ?
Imagine a fork truck , but with “forks that only touch the wheel rubber.
They then secure the wheels to the lift rig,.. and tow away.
I have seen then recover stranded or illegally parked cars from lines of nose/tail parked vehicles...no problem.
https://auto.howstuffworks.com/repo-truck1.htm

2013 Nissan Leaf S, no neutral just park, forward and reverse. I don't even carry my trickle charger have it in the storage somewhere. Ran 40amps to driveway enclosure, level 2 7kw charger in car. I watched videos of tow trucks trying to move dead Leafs in the middle of the road, not tucked in-between two cars. Have no idea how I would jump it out side of trickle charge.

@Hillhater: your link

https://images.app.goo.gl/ZZa7LPV5cWruc1hz8

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does some crazy stuff, without even clicking on it.

Just trying to open this page on ES automatically opens that image in the same tab, without being able to view the ES page first (or at all).

I had to force stop loading the page with the ESC key, then specifically exclude the ability of the browser to do anything with stuff from "images.app.goo.gl" so I could actually see the ES page itself.

FWIW, I have scripts and stuff "whitelisted", so only places I specifically enable can even run scripts (which doesn't include anything from google in any URL form)...so I wonder how it managed to do this?

Weird,?? the link worked for me...just a link to some google search image.
But fixed it now with aa actual image .

ZeroEm said:

2013 Nissan Leaf S, no neutral just park, forward and reverse. I don't even carry my trickle charger have it in the storage somewhere. Ran 40amps to driveway enclosure, level 2 7kw charger in car. I watched videos of tow trucks trying to move dead Leafs in the middle of the road, not tucked in-between two cars. Have no idea how I would jump it out side of trickle charge.

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Just hire that guy

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Sorry for the continued OT....

Hillhater said:

Weird,?? the link worked for me...just a link to some google search image.

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I didn't say the link didn't work.

Only that the ES page itself couldn't be viewed because the browser automatically went to that link, without me clicking on it, until I specifically disabled anything from the linked site completely.

I don't know why it did that, as it doesn't normally just open anything on a page (I actually have it very restricted in what it can do unless I specifically allow it to), but I expect it is something about that specific site. If I had somewhere else I could post a link to that site, and test loading the page with the link I'd do that, cuz I've actually had this kind of thing happen at least once before, maybe twice, here on ES, where a link on the page loads, instead of the ES page itself. I don't recall where those links pointed to....

The topic is: "People who are into EV enough to spend their time talking about it, in front of other people, on the internet"

So...
We are on topic

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