Chalo wrote: ↑
Sep 03 2022 12:33pm
Grossly overweight and overpowered personal cars, whatever power source they run on, are a problem that must end unless the goal is to kill us all. An actual genius would understand and acknowledge this.
Musk would rather compound the problem with millions of tons more greenhouse gas, just so he can lay claim to an unlivable planet. If this nonsense weren't poisoning, roasting, and flooding the rest of us out of our homes, I'd say go for it.
Digging a bit deeper, I would like to take your temperature on this Chalo because this is an interesting discussion which comes down to philosophy and perspective and thanks for sharing your thoughts.
You seem to have a real conservation side 'to save the planet'. Every human should conserve. Do people really need to own cars Chalo? Humanity largely predates automobiles which started to become part of America and the world's fabric around the turn of the last century. Perhaps households shouldn't be allowed to own an automobile for the sake of the planet.
Or more topically, in the vane of ebikes...Chalo if you were in charge of the world's population, should the BBSHD ebike motor be illegal? Afterall for an average weight male on an average weight bicycle, who really needs to go 35mph? I own two but rarely go that fast. Have you ever sat down and done a cost/benefit analysis of owning a BBSHD versus a much weaker motor? How about if you ride both bikes with the same volts and amps? How much longer will a BBSHD last compared to a weaker motor that is at a higher stress and heat threshold? How irresponsible is it to replace a motor an an ebike 3 x's for every BBSHD failure because latter is so over designed. Bad for the planet isn't it?...to recycle so many motors. How about a Tesla 3 series? Let's say it will outlast a Chevy Bolt 2:1 because of the quality of the battery and the motor. Both are driven on the same roads. The Tesla may use a little more juice but really how much more? You have to buy a Chevy Bolt twice as often as a Tesla. Pretty irresponsible, isn't it?...buying the cheaper car with weaker motor. A false economy and in the grand scheme of the planet's well being, pixie dust is a good characterization although in aggregate the smaller, lower power Chevy Bolt maybe more harmful to the planet because it doesn't last and needs to be part of a landfill sooner. Once again, poor people messing things up for the planet. Everybody should be able to buy a Tesla right? Oh that's right, Telsa's are cost prohibitive for most and genius Elon knows that. Numbers matter for impact on the planet.
Do I need a 52v battery with 19.2 amp-hrs that I 'undercharge' for longer cycle life in an effort to keep my battery from a landfill later rather than sooner? How about if I owned 10 ebikes and only ride one at a time? Should the government limit how many ebikes I own to save the planet even though I try to ride my ebike instead of my SUV?
Broad extrapolations are misguided and foolhardy. How grandiose to believe human's have any concept of global warming in the face of the ice age which we still can't explain.
Maybe ebikes should be limted to 100w's of supplemental power and not 1000w to save the planet you care so deeply about.
So if you were in charge Chalo, would you deem the BBSHD illegal? Would you deem higher voltage, larger capacity batteries illegal? They are after antithetical to survival of the planet are they not?...grievous, glutenous polluting and under utilized.
Or how about your rich grandmother who likes to tote her grandkids around in a safe automobile. She has heard you exclaim the merits of EV's at dinner table discussions and she wants to drink the Kool-aid to save the planet too even though this concept has really come under some skepticism within this thread and elsewhere. How about Grandma? How polluting is Grandma driving your demonic Tesla when she barely grazes the gas pedal to go the speed limit? Her Watt-hrs aren't really out of line, are they? Grandma's battery lasts for weeks. That big bad Tesla isn't really so bad is it? Grandma likes it.
You are in charge Chalo. You have made your thoughts known about carbon footprint and the irresponsibility of Musk. Grandma likes the occasional romp on the go pedal. But normally, she drives like the little old lady she is. Tell us what you would do.