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Re: Regen On Infineon

Post by NeilP » Dec 24 2011 2:22pm

Yes, it helps..i took the chance that that was what it was, and tried it this afternoon.
But no joy, it would just not program.

tried various options, with power off the controller, power on the controller. swapping TX and RX lines

I guess this is just another Xlyte board that can't be programmed..or it can but only by the Xlyte APM.

Either that or the Lyen USB adapter is different to the Cell_Man one...will have to message paul again to find out
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Re: Regen On Infineon

Post by o00scorpion00o » Dec 24 2011 3:10pm

I think the usb adaptors are the same for the EB312 infineons.

If it's the current you want to turn up, then maybe solder the shunt a little ?
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Re: Regen On Infineon

Post by neptronix » Dec 24 2011 3:13pm

Completely different wiring scheme for the USB adapters. You also need the right software. Kinda unfortunate that it's proprietary.

I couldn't figure out how to get my lyen cable workin' on the new cell_man controllers.. so i ordered one from him -_-
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Re: Regen On Infineon

Post by DAND214 » Dec 24 2011 3:20pm

Mac 500, 12 fet Infineon, 16S Zippy LiPo
Are you running a MAC?

No REGEN on gear hubs, if that's the case.

Brake switch cuts power to motor and clutch comes in and coasts.

If you are running a DD then the voltage is still too low as on 15s I see regen below 59v. No res mod.

On my MAC I don't get any.

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Re: Regen On Infineon

Post by NeilP » Dec 24 2011 3:25pm

Yes, I have the different wiring scheme, and have made up an adapter to swap the wiring between the Lyen cable and what is required for the Cell man adapter.

Tx, Rx Gnd and 5v are all as per Cell_Mans wiring.

I also have software from him.

When I first contacted him, i did ask if I needed one of his adapters, and this was not answered, so I assumed that I did not need one.

I have sent him another message this evening
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Re: Regen On Infineon

Post by o00scorpion00o » Dec 24 2011 3:31pm

neptronix wrote:Completely different wiring scheme for the USB adapters. You also need the right software. Kinda unfortunate that it's proprietary.

I couldn't figure out how to get my lyen cable workin' on the new cell_man controllers.. so i ordered one from him -_-

You serious, the cell-man 312 is different to Lyen's 312 ? I didn't know that, the wiring looks the same ?

Cell-man's software programs the Lyen for me ?
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Re: Regen On Infineon

Post by o00scorpion00o » Dec 24 2011 3:33pm

DAND214 wrote:
Mac 500, 12 fet Infineon, 16S Zippy LiPo
Are you running a MAC?

No REGEN on gear hubs, if that's the case.

Brake switch cuts power to motor and clutch comes in and coasts.

If you are running a DD then the voltage is still too low as on 15s I see regen below 59v. No res mod.

On my MAC I don't get any.

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Not at the moment, I'm waiting on a new clutch, keyway and axle.

I'm using the trusty pie motor for the moment, not as much fun as the pie!
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Re: Regen On Infineon

Post by neptronix » Dec 24 2011 3:39pm

o00scorpion00o wrote:
neptronix wrote:Completely different wiring scheme for the USB adapters. You also need the right software. Kinda unfortunate that it's proprietary.

I couldn't figure out how to get my lyen cable workin' on the new cell_man controllers.. so i ordered one from him -_-
You serious, the cell-man 312 is different to Lyen's 312 ? I didn't know that, the wiring looks the same ?

Cell-man's software programs the Lyen for me ?
Oh, i didn't know that lyen sold 3xx infineons. My bad if so. I thought his were all 2xx.
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Re: Regen On Infineon

Post by NeilP » Dec 24 2011 3:42pm

I have an Xlyte EB312 from ElectricRider..possibly different again

Lyen can't help, he told me so, so it will be just a matter of waiting on Paul to see what he comes up with
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Re: Regen On Infineon

Post by o00scorpion00o » Dec 24 2011 3:44pm

Ah no problem Dave, you had me wondering lol

By the way, when do you expect to have the pie ? I can't wait to see how you get on with it!
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Re: Regen On Infineon

Post by o00scorpion00o » Dec 24 2011 3:47pm

NeilP wrote:I have an Xlyte EB312 from ElectricRider..possibly different again

Lyen can't help, he told me so, so it will be just a matter of waiting on Paul to see what he comes up with

I long for the day these controllers come with their own displays, and make it so they can program the controller without cables or laptops!
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Re: Regen On Infineon

Post by neptronix » Dec 24 2011 4:09pm

o00scorpion00o wrote:Ah no problem Dave, you had me wondering lol
By the way, when do you expect to have the pie ? I can't wait to see how you get on with it!
It should be here next week. North America is very icy right now :|
First order of business will be drillin' those covers... :)
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Re: Regen On Infineon

Post by o00scorpion00o » Dec 24 2011 4:58pm

I can't believe how mild it is this year compared to last year. No problem e-biking this winter so far!

The last 3 winters were un Irish like cold, now we are back to Atlantic weather.

I was thinking of drilling the covers but the pie doesn't get hot on anything only the 16% I went up. And it's much too wet here for it to be reliable, unless I tried spraying it with the protective paint.

If you wire it up with 12G alpha eco wire you should have enough room for temp sensor wires. You should really do that because I have a feeling your climb will be longer than mine. The alpha insulation is really thin!

Bogging down is the problem and on 16S (controller set to 120%) max speed on level ground about 35 mph, at 16% 13 mph so a hell of a lot of power was being converted to heat!

I wonder if you ran 80 volts through it ? I know it's more watts but the higher voltage makes it spin faster keeping it more in the efficiency zone, Other thing is back off the current if increasing the voltage ?

But currently My controller settings are 60 battery and 140 amp phase, I don't know how high you can turn up the phase on the 12 fet? I know I'm maxed out at 60 battery unless I beef it up! But it accelerates very fast. I will fix the halls eventually to give it the extra speed.
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