Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

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Re: Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

Post by mahoma30 » Oct 06 2019 6:29am

The drawing shows the additional Y-cable and the required connection to the slave controller. I would like to know if the connection of the slave controller from the BMS can be used for the connection to the master incl. BMS.
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Post by mahoma30 » Oct 06 2019 6:32am

this is the right Foto
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Re: Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

Post by gabriel83 » Dec 23 2019 6:20am

Hi everyone!

Someone knows how many Ohm have the resistor of Adaptto controller?

330 ohm?

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

Post by HK12K » Feb 01 2020 11:46am

I've got a Max-E with the 70v charge coil and an Eaton PSU and plan to pick up a J plug adapter to make use of EV charging stations.

I usually charge at 110v and have the Adaptto set to 13 amps on the input side, but since the charging stations operate on 240v I'm wondering how many amps I should allow it to pull while still keeping everything happy. Thinking 7.5A @ 240v to keep the Eaton from melting into a puddle, but could use a little insightful confirmation.

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Re: Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

Post by sn0wchyld » Feb 02 2020 9:54am

HK12K wrote:
Feb 01 2020 11:46am
I've got a Max-E with the 70v charge coil and an Eaton PSU and plan to pick up a J plug adapter to make use of EV charging stations.

I usually charge at 110v and have the Adaptto set to 13 amps on the input side, but since the charging stations operate on 240v I'm wondering how many amps I should allow it to pull while still keeping everything happy. Thinking 7.5A @ 240v to keep the Eaton from melting into a puddle, but could use a little insightful confirmation.
the eaton should have written on it what its rated amperage out is at 240VAC... if its in a hot environment then probably keep below 70% of that but otherwise up to that should be ok, its not a cheapo china power supply after all. that said, my coil gets warm even at 15A power supply side so probably worth keeping an eye on it if your upping the power significantly.

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Re: Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

Post by bigbore » Feb 03 2020 5:30pm

HK12K wrote:
Feb 01 2020 11:46am
I've got a Max-E with the 70v charge coil and an Eaton PSU and plan to pick up a J plug adapter to make use of EV charging stations.

I usually charge at 110v and have the Adaptto set to 13 amps on the input side, but since the charging stations operate on 240v I'm wondering how many amps I should allow it to pull while still keeping everything happy. Thinking 7.5A @ 240v to keep the Eaton from melting into a puddle, but could use a little insightful confirmation.
Where did you find a Max-e? Is it new or used?

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Re: Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

Post by HK12K » Feb 03 2020 10:01pm

bigbore wrote:
Feb 03 2020 5:30pm
HK12K wrote:
Feb 01 2020 11:46am
I've got a Max-E with the 70v charge coil and an Eaton PSU and plan to pick up a J plug adapter to make use of EV charging stations.

I usually charge at 110v and have the Adaptto set to 13 amps on the input side, but since the charging stations operate on 240v I'm wondering how many amps I should allow it to pull while still keeping everything happy. Thinking 7.5A @ 240v to keep the Eaton from melting into a puddle, but could use a little insightful confirmation.
Where did you find a Max-e? Is it new or used?
This is an existing install, however I'll be using the Eaton @ 240v with a j1772 adapter for the first time and wanted to be sure I had my head around it. I hadn't had enough coffee yet that morning when I posted though and had managed to forget about the ac/dc conversion going on inside the psu at the time. That 7.5a would be supply side of the Eaton @ 1800w (before losses) not supply side on the Adaptto.

The Adaptto would need to be at 31 amps on the supply side to max out the Eaton at the voltage it's currently set to. Speakon is good for at least 30amps, supposedly, so I'll probably keep edging it up from the 13amps it's at and keep an eye on overall temps. Probably settle around 25 amps if nothing gets too warm before that point, but we shall see.

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Re: Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

Post by graoully » Feb 04 2020 10:14am

graoully wrote:
Aug 23 2015 6:12am
Ohbse wrote:
graoully wrote:This question was already asked but not answered : does someone know what "capacity update" means in the statistics menu ? The function was probably not implemented when the last user's manual was written. Could we expect a new version soon ?
Capacity update will mark as full charge and update battery capacity to the total you then consume. This rescales the predicted range/gauge. In my case I charged to 4.1 and ran down to LVC. Doesn't mean I can't use above 4.1 if required, just means most of the time the gauge is accurate.
I'll try to proceed. In fact I noticed the gauge doesn't update automatically after a full charge ( I use an external 72 V charger with the Adaptto BMS but not the coil ). Is there a way to solve this issue ?
4 years later I've just performed the update capacity but now the right gauge ( small rectangles on the right of the display) flashes/scrolls and I got almost no power. is there a way to come back to normal ?

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Re: Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

Post by HK12K » Feb 04 2020 10:39am

graoully wrote:
Feb 04 2020 10:14am
graoully wrote:
Aug 23 2015 6:12am
Ohbse wrote:
graoully wrote:This question was already asked but not answered : does someone know what "capacity update" means in the statistics menu ? The function was probably not implemented when the last user's manual was written. Could we expect a new version soon ?
Capacity update will mark as full charge and update battery capacity to the total you then consume. This rescales the predicted range/gauge. In my case I charged to 4.1 and ran down to LVC. Doesn't mean I can't use above 4.1 if required, just means most of the time the gauge is accurate.
I'll try to proceed. In fact I noticed the gauge doesn't update automatically after a full charge ( I use an external 72 V charger with the Adaptto BMS but not the coil ). Is there a way to solve this issue ?
4 years later I've just performed the update capacity but now the right gauge ( small rectangles on the right of the display) flashes/scrolls and I got almost no power. is there a way to come back to normal ?
Double check that the correct temp sensor is selected if you haven't already. If it's got the wrong one set it might think it's overheating at ambient temps.

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Re: Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

Post by graoully » Feb 04 2020 10:57am

HK12K wrote:
Feb 04 2020 10:39am
graoully wrote:
Feb 04 2020 10:14am
graoully wrote:
Aug 23 2015 6:12am
Ohbse wrote:
Capacity update will mark as full charge and update battery capacity to the total you then consume. This rescales the predicted range/gauge. In my case I charged to 4.1 and ran down to LVC. Doesn't mean I can't use above 4.1 if required, just means most of the time the gauge is accurate.
I'll try to proceed. In fact I noticed the gauge doesn't update automatically after a full charge ( I use an external 72 V charger with the Adaptto BMS but not the coil ). Is there a way to solve this issue ?
4 years later I've just performed the update capacity but now the right gauge ( small rectangles on the right of the display) flashes/scrolls and I got almost no power. is there a way to come back to normal ?
Double check that the correct temp sensor is selected if you haven't already. If it's got the wrong one set it might think it's overheating at ambient temps.
You saved my life. You're right. I have an issue with my motor sensor (stuck to 0°C all the time) and I changed the wrong thermal sensor type. I still have the motor temperature issue to solve but at least I can ride. Any idea why I can't get the motor temperature ?

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Re: Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

Post by HK12K » Feb 04 2020 11:29am

graoully wrote:
Feb 04 2020 10:57am
HK12K wrote:
Feb 04 2020 10:39am
graoully wrote:
Feb 04 2020 10:14am
graoully wrote:
Aug 23 2015 6:12am


I'll try to proceed. In fact I noticed the gauge doesn't update automatically after a full charge ( I use an external 72 V charger with the Adaptto BMS but not the coil ). Is there a way to solve this issue ?
4 years later I've just performed the update capacity but now the right gauge ( small rectangles on the right of the display) flashes/scrolls and I got almost no power. is there a way to come back to normal ?
Double check that the correct temp sensor is selected if you haven't already. If it's got the wrong one set it might think it's overheating at ambient temps.
You saved my life. You're right. I have an issue with my motor sensor (stuck to 0°C all the time) and I changed the wrong thermal sensor type. I still have the motor temperature issue to solve but at least I can ride. Any idea why I can't get the motor temperature ?
Hard to say but probably a wiring issue somewhere. If you have a multimeter you can look up how to test the sensor and see if you can't figure out where the communication breakdown is occurring. Could be a bad splice between motor and controller, poor contact in the hall/temp sensor connector, broken connection inside the motor or where the wires pass through the axle, or even something inside the adaptto itself.

Careful riding around without temp monitoring. It's really easy to drive a motor to overtemp and not realize it until it's already cooked.

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Post by DasDouble » Feb 05 2020 8:53am

White Adaptto Screen, probably because of high humidity in the UK.. do you know what to do? Hairdryer maybe?
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Re: Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

Post by HK12K » Feb 05 2020 11:21am

I wonder if there is a ribbon cable inside that could have become dislodged. My first guess anyway. I'd open it and explore.

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Re: Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

Post by grunt » Feb 28 2020 11:35am

Hi, I have a Hall error 2 and only 0.8 v in the hall. Is there someone here who can fix this :?: Max -e

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Post by Merlin » Feb 28 2020 7:49pm

in which country do you live?

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Re: Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

Post by amberwolf » Feb 29 2020 12:49am

is that 0.8v with it still connected to the controller? becuase if the motor hall signals are not connected to the controlelr's internal pullups, there will be essentialy no voltage on the signal lines, as those halls don't output any voltage, they only ground the pullup voltage whenever a magnet passes.

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Post by tme » Mar 28 2020 12:49am

I broke my display mount. Anyone here know where to get (or print) a new tiny plastic mounting piece ?

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Post by SUNDRIVE » Mar 28 2020 7:52pm

Black cable ties worked on mine

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Post by litespeed » Mar 28 2020 11:08pm

I have an odd issue that I’m not sure is MaxE related or motor related. So every once in a while my motor will stutter out of no where. Very few and far between but when it starts sometimes it doesn’t go right away.....sometimes it does.

So today I’m out for a quick fix and all of a sudden it starts to stutter. Didn’t matter which mode or where the throttle was. Temp doesn’t seem to play a part. It’s done it on both hot and cold times. Did it for a couple miles and then stopped. Ran perfect and completely smooth & quite like always. WTF I’m thinking? Is there a chance that I have a hall sensor failing? Is intermittent operation of a hall sensor a possibility?

I suppose I could switch to the second set of halls on my QS 205 3.5T if anyone thinks that would be a good idea?

Thoughts?

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Re: Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

Post by amberwolf » Mar 29 2020 12:41am

intermittent problems are almost always wiring, either the wires or the connectors or the join between wire and connector pin. can be literally anywhere between the actual components at either end of the connection (like hall sensor at one end, and mcu at the other, or fet on one end and motor phase coils at the other).

i'd start there.

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Post by litespeed » Mar 29 2020 11:04am

Thanks for the idea. I’ll get looking/checking.

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Re: Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

Post by HK12K » Apr 20 2020 1:37pm

Does anyone know if Adaptto is still doing repairs? The thermistor responsible for fet monitoring in mine has an intermittent issue which has been becoming more frequent. It will suddenly think it's overheating even though it's unlikely to actually be overheating.

Got frustrated yesterday and ended up intentionally changing the setting for the internal sensor to the wrong value just to keep it from pulling power. Then went for a high speed rip in boost with the batt, phase amps, and OVS maxed. If it had really been overheating before even pulling out of the driveway with barely any throttle input like it had said it was, that should have killed it good... So for sure it needs repairing because riding dirty without a temp sensor isn't a great long term solution.

Better yet, what are the chances a random local electronics repair place could sort this out?

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Re: Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

Post by inedible » Apr 21 2020 9:24am

That's a really common problem. Apparently moisture gets into the thermistor somehow. As for repairing it, Allex has said recently that Adaptto is still doing repairs. Email shop@adaptto.ru Shipping things to and from Russia is pretty expensive though.

A local electronics repair place should be able to swap the sensor no problem. The sensors are a dollar or two on ebay and are quite easy to replace. They're a tiny glass diode looking component. I found a pic on the russian forum here.

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Re: Adaptto Mini-E/Max-E Owner's Thread

Post by HK12K » Apr 21 2020 10:55am

Wow, thank you very much!

I will try to have a local repair shop swap the sensor for me.

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