$14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by Icewrench » Mar 17 2019 7:56pm

BH or brake high would connect to the pos voltage line to a brake light.

Bl Brake low is a ground signal..

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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by exe » Mar 17 2019 8:06pm

Icewrench wrote:
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BH or brake high would connect to the pos voltage line to a brake light.

Bl Brake low is a ground signal..
I understand this. I am asking, are the result the same for both BH and BL, which is = power off.

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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by Icewrench » Mar 17 2019 9:56pm

yes.

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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by amberwolf » Mar 17 2019 11:47pm

They just engage whatever braking method the controller has enabled / programmed, whether that be simply stopping motor operation, or regen, or eabs, or some other thing.

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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by PITMIX » Mar 18 2019 4:54am

amberwolf wrote:
Mar 15 2019 9:58pm
What votlage does the battery dip down to under the load?

What is the controller's LVC?

If the battery dips below the LVC, and the LVC is correct for a 20s or lower pack, then it is still the battery being unable to handle the load, even though the controller is shutting down because of it.

If the battery does not dip below the LVC, then the controller is shutting down for some ohter reason.

If the LVC is set higher than a 20s pack, then the controller is shutting down early when the pack dips below that point under load, and the controller needs it's LVC changed to match the pack being used.
The LVC is at 62V so there is no risk of reaching this limit because my battery never drops below 72V.
As there is an adjustment knob of LVC I can also put it in position 60V and the result will be the same.
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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by PITMIX » Mar 18 2019 10:02am

Well I found a solution for troubleshooting !!
It reminds me that I use 2 controllers on a single dual stator engine with a single throttle grip.
You can see the schema as an attachment.

I had a doubt but then it is confirmed ... when one of the 2 controllers safely cuts the other holds and can turn the engine to 50% of its power without cutting safely.

I just did a test by disconnecting the battery that powers the controller 2 and it works without interruption even accelerating to 100%.
What's strange too is that the intensity does not go up to 84A but 76 ~ 78A.
The operation is good and starts less jerky, but also less powerful because the engine absorbs 1x78A instead of 2x84A
I found a troubleshooting solution but it does not explain the essence of the problem.
I installed a second accelerator pedal.
I use the throttle pedal controller 1 for starting from 0 to 40km / h and from 40km / h I also actuates the second accelerator pedal to double the power and reach 75km / h.
There is no longer a break and the operation is ok.
On the other hand if I activate the accelerator of the second controller before reaching 40km / h there is a safety cut of the controller 1.
The same thing happens if I do the opposite and I start with the controller 2 and then I accelerate with the controller 1 from 40km / h.
I do not know exactly what is the cause of the problem, it seems to me that this is due to the design of the dual stator motor since the windings have a shift of 30 ° relative to each other.
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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by markz » Mar 18 2019 7:42pm

What motor do you have that has two windings?
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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by PITMIX » Mar 19 2019 2:51am

it is a alternator of Renault Laguna 14V 210A converted into a brushless motor
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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by PITMIX » Jun 16 2019 8:07am

hello, do you have the schematic of the motherboard?
I want to know how to control the power mosfet.
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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by markz » Jun 16 2019 11:21am

Nice, how did you mount the hall sensros, any other pics?
I don't recall anyone having the schematic for these boards. I am sure their your basic layout. It would be too much work to reverse engineer the pcb board. Some tried to see if the TX and RX pcb points were operational, but not sure if that got anywhere. The SUNWIN controller boards are basic and generic, spit out by the millions and scooped up by resellers to either populate and sell, or sell as is because they get the boards already populated. It could be the sellers can specify a level of quality componentry but I am just speculating.
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hello, do you have the schematic of the motherboard?
I want to know how to control the power mosfet.
PITMIX wrote:
Mar 19 2019 2:51am
it is a alternator of Renault Laguna 14V 210A converted into a brushless motor

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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by PITMIX » Jun 16 2019 11:45am

This is to mount two controllers in parallel on a single motor.
The first controller is driver and the second is slave. It doubles the power using only RJ45 wire. The pilot controller will give the slave mosfets information to work in the same way on both controllers. This has already been done but not on this type of controller.
I found this diagram but it does not correspond to my controllers.
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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by PITMIX » Jun 16 2019 12:04pm

for now traced this on photos
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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by Ianhill » Jun 16 2019 2:37pm

So the second controller brain is bypassed and the signal from the first is fed to the gate driver of the second that amplifys the source signal and drive it's fets with each phase bridged to its corrosponding pair making a 36 fet controller 12 per phase that can get on for 10kw in a pair and not get warm.

But the shunt has to then link both boards to get a true current reading ?

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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by PITMIX » Jun 16 2019 3:12pm

Yes that's it. just connect the battery leads and phases in parallel. However, it is necessary to isolate the control by the processor of the slave because otherwise it starts to the mass and does not work.
For shunt this is a very good note but normally the master processor will drive its 18 transistors normally and the signal is simply transmitted in the same way to the other 18 regardless of their Amperage.
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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by Ianhill » Jun 16 2019 4:33pm

Sounds interesting, I like the motor choice too lots of power on the cheap top work.

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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by PITMIX » Jun 17 2019 12:20am

Finaly I change this engine because is too hot. When I do a 2km run the engine is to 120°C...
2 stator on 1 motor is not good ! But I have 10kW whith this engine !!
Whith a single stator alternator I have 45°C.
But the power is 4,5kW whith single controller.
If I use dual controller is possible to have 9kW.
I do the diagram to use 2 controllers whith one motor :
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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by PITMIX » Jun 18 2019 3:16pm

slave controller without micro-transistors T4 for + and N5-N4 for -
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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by PITMIX » Jun 18 2019 3:23pm

First connection wires
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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by PITMIX » Jun 24 2019 12:24am

Hi ! I tested the assembly of 2 controllers in parallel but it does not work.
Mounting works but do not exceed the rated current of a single controller
The driver controller gives the same signal on the mosfets slave but without any control of the intensity. Result when the rated intensity exceeds 80A mosfets explode.
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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by eTrike » Jul 04 2019 7:20am

I don’t have time to wait for Chinese shipping, does anyone have one I can buy in Europe? I’ll pay handsomely!

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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by drunkencat129 » Oct 03 2019 5:55pm

got a 18fet with 4115 fets i plug everything in but nothing happends i checked fets cant find a short i plug in learn connecter some time motor spins up but rare what can be causing problem tested another controller and theres no problems running 72v is there a way to wire up the fault led so i can get fault code from it ?

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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by drunkencat129 » Nov 14 2019 9:45pm

need some help i got a problem with a controller everythings working but throttle tested throttle and its good but when i plug it in to controller i cant get it to work if i short power to digital in pin it works but wont work threw the throttle also the 5v and the negitive are good what can be causeing this problem its a sunwin 36fet 120v controller

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Re: $14.99 72v Sunwin Controller

Post by PITMIX » Nov 15 2019 12:44am

Hello when you connect learning wire your motor is running ?
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